What do you think about the power scaling in the manga? In the beginning ghouls like Rize and Yamori were monsters, Arima was basically a god. Now we have a huge kagune monster destroying Tokyo. Sure, we knew this was possible because of Ayato’s journey, but all of this happened too late in the series. I think we should’ve gotten some hints earlier, so stuff like this and Tatara’s fire kakuja don’t seem so absurd. Humans seem to know so little about ghouls, it kinda bothers me.

linkspooky:

Power scaling basically went out the window when Urie defeated Roma, despite basically losing to Donato earlier in the exact same circumstances. Even though Roma’s technically a much much stronger ghoul.

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You don’t need to reply to this with several reasons why Urie totally could have beaten Roma though and how it totally makes sense though because that’s not really the purpose. 

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This isn’t really a fighting manga where the power levels are meant to be cool. Every character that has sought strength as a part of their character arc has regretted it later. I think it’s important to remember that in those scenes the characters don’t accomplish what they wanted through physical strength. Urie’s goal wasn’t to defeat Roma, it was to save Kuroiwa, but Urie totally failed in that regard even after receiving a power up and while Kuroiwa was literally in his arms.

All Urie had to do was pay attention to his environment like Furuta warned him to and he failed in that regard.

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Characters like Mutsuki, Urie and Kaneki who seek strength as a means of self improvement never succeed. That is kind of the point, Kaneki literally becomes the strongest ghoul in the whole of Tokyo and he still can’t accomplish his desire to protect everyone.

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All of the problems we thought were holding Kaneki back before, his uncontrollable Kakuja, his suicidal nature holding him back, his lack of understanding on how to use the power of kagune, they’ve all been resolved at this point.Yet…

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That’s why the next chapter went so far as to create a shonen tourmanet parody arc of this whole scene.

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That is essentially the point of this whole scene Kaneki’s the strongest now so he should get what he wants and win, if that’s the conclusion you reach you’re reading the manga wrong. Yes, it would be nice if the power scaling was more consistent, but thematically it works to make the powers so ridiculous now because it makes a point that fighting itself is pointless.

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The fact that no one side could handle the Dragon by their own is part of what establishes how pointless the fighting and trying to gain strength for the sake of protecting others on each side really was. 

I think it’s also important to remember not only were Rize and Yamori strong but they were also people you did not want to be. What they did to get that power made them horrible people, but Kaneki failed to grasp that in the end because he only saw their power as a means of accomplishing what he wanted. In other words Kaneki needed to read more Medaka Box. 

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Yana’s comment on ch136

akumadeenglish:

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Kuroshitsuji chapter 136 will be something like… *“It was when [he] got entangled with some bad guys that a black luxury car

with smoked-glass windows

passed by. The driver who came out of that car was a mafia member and he proposed ‘conditions’ for a settlement… ”
[With this chapter] one of the turning points has been eventually reached. Please read it. – Toboso 

*Note1:
Yana described OC’s situation in this chapter in a comical way

using a very famous & stupid Japanese internet meme which I refuse to explain because reasons.

*Note2: Without the knowledge of that meme though, it might be a bit hard to get the picture, so here are some explanations:

  • ‘he’ = OC
  • ‘bad guys’ = cultists
  • ‘mafia member’ (actually ‘yakuza’) = Sebastian
  • ‘black luxury car

    with smoked-glass windows’

    = typical mafia car

  • ‘The driver who came out of that car was a mafia member and he proposed ‘conditions’ for a settlement…’ = meme

Yana is basically saying that it may seem like Sebastian saved OC in a very precarious situation, but in reality, OC wasn’t “saved” but he just found himself in yet another big trouble because, after all, the one who “passed by in his black luxury car” was neither a hero nor a saviour, but yet another evil person (a yakuza) who takes advantage of OC’s situation and demands an unreasonably high price for a private settlement (which is what yakuza usually do).

midnight-in-town:

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((Confirmation that real!Ciel is the one who attacked Soma and Agni if we needed any)).

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Hi! As you can see above, I mentioned it last month Anon-chan ❤

For me, it’s important by the way, because that definitely signs the attack on Soma and Agni as being from real!Ciel, so you were right to mention it if you thought no one had addressed the subject. :3

Have a nice weekend! 

I saw this month’s ch. It looks like RC is stabbed between his chest and his stomach. But then, OC took the ring from RC’s stomach, how? I thought the ring would be located lower down? And from ch 95, RC looks like he got bloody all over. Was it possible that OC’s the one who sliced open RC’s stomach to take out the ring, thus leading OC to have survivor’s guilt? That would be soo messed up :'( What do you think? Sorry if this is an absurd question, have a nice day :)

Hi Anon, don’t worry it’s not absurd! Well, my anatomy lessons might be a bit too behind me but in my opinion, real!Ciel was stabbed right in or next to the heart

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so the ring would be located closer to the navel actually, which means that… 

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…our!Ciel will probably cut his brother’s tummy open with that knife to get the ring in the next chapter (I say ‘probably’ but it’s almost certain that it’s him and not Seb who did that). :/

To answer your question about survivor’s guilt though, for me the whole outcome of that one day is what led to Ciel having survivor’s guilt in the first place. Real!Ciel was randomly chosen to die first…

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…but being forced to watch his brother being killed without being able to do anything was so traumatizing that it led Ciel to hate his own weakness and the fact that he wasn’t chosen to die first.
That’s why he said (or is going to say in the next chapter):

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So, taking the ring out of his brother’s body, taking his brother’s identity, trying to make himself disappear in favor of making his brother’s souvenir survive… All of these are the results of survivor’s guilt due to real!Ciel being randomly chosen to be killed first. 

I agree it is messed up and horrible and that’s all the cult’s fault. :/

I hope I managed to answer your question :3 Thank you for passing by and have a lovely weekend too. :))

Do you think our Ciel is a fragile person?

Hello! And I’m sorry, but can you define “fragile” Anon? Because in my language it’s used to refer to both physical and mental conditions, in a neutral or demeaning way, and I’m not sure which way you were going with your ask?

To give you some kind of answer though, if you meant physically speaking, then he definitely has a frail condition, yes… 

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…although the more he grows, the better he gets, but he’ll never be a physically strong fighter like anyone from the Midford family for example. 

If you meant regarding his trauma however, then no. 

Let’s not lie to ourselves he is not anywhere close to coping with what happened to him, but he’s brave and strong, and mostly he has a huge possibility for more constructive development as well as finally finding a way to cope with some parts of his trauma… if he can at least learn to accept people caring about him. 

Sorry that it’s a little short, I’m just not sure what you meant there. ^^”

Have a nice weekend!

Hello Hamliet, what’s in store for Touka’s character arc in the future? I’m thinking maybe some closure and forgiveness for her father, of course her relationship with Kentucky, a reunion with Yoriko, and possibly learning how to fight for her friends when the time is necessary. In early Part 1 she was aggressive while Kaneki was passive, then their roles reversed in the 2nd half. Now in :re, Kaneki remains the active one to protect his family and friends while Touka is relatively passive.

hamliet:

Fried chicken is in store for her. (I’m sorry, I’m sorry, every time I see that autocorrect I have to make a terrible joke.)

But Touka’s arc is definitely not over. To have an arc, one has to have flaws and struggle with them, which Touka does have them and does struggle with. It’s been remarkably consistent throughout :re, and I think it’s a very well written arc. I’ll fight anyone who says she’s useless or doesn’t have an arc.

I think you sum up where I expect her arc to take her quite well: she’ll have to come to terms with her father, reunite with Yoriko, and deal with Kaneki, and yes, I expect her to come to a situation soon wherein she needs to fight. All of these situations notably contain high emotional stakes for Touka. And the struggle we’ve seen from Touka in :re concerns her pain over losing loved ones. Touka loves deeply and unconditionally when she loves someone. It’s her greatest strength. But as a ghoul, she’s always had to live while losing, and she hasn’t yet asked why they need to lose at all in :re. 

Touka expresses after chapter 120′s confrontation in the original TG that her hitting Kaneki is something she deeply regrets, and indicates that she likely blames herself for what would then happen in the Anteiku Raid: 

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But a strength of Touka’s is that she never gives up hope. She still believes Kaneki will come back, and he does. She never tries to force him into remembering her, and that’s a good thing and speaks beautifully of Touka’s love

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But. We know that she suffered during this time too. She believes that it’s better for Kaneki to be without her, but love also speaks its needs, and Touka is not good at directly communicating her needs. Again, this is not a criticism–I’m not saying she should be better, and that this in any way makes her less of a good person. But instead of telling Kaneki he hurt her by staying away for so long, she slams his head into a counter. It’s HUMOR and is not portraying abuse and anyone who says that it is needs to take reading comprehension, but it actually does fit her character’s tendencies to avoid the larger issue. 

An exception is when Touka does a great job in chapter 122 of articulating to Kaneki that she likes him. It’s a bit fumbling, but she wasn’t shy, and that’s a positive step for her character for sure. 

And she chose her child over her friends. That’s good. That’s what no one else in the story has done so far, and that’s why even though I think it’s possible we might get a fakeout scare with the baby pretty soon (like Touka getting wounded in the abdomen), the baby is probably going to be fine. (I hope we don’t get that scare but if we do I’m not going to worry.) But at the same time, she knew Kaneki was following the same path he followed before the Anteiku Raid when he was torn about how to lead, and she didn’t confront him like last time–likely because she does not know her confrontation, for all its flaws of violence, actually worked. Like, Kaneki did decide to return, but it was too late because TG was a tragedy whereas :re is not. Imagine how a loving confrontation from Touka would go. Seriously, that’d be some good shit right there. 

And since then, we’ve gotten a pattern with Touka. Basically, every time she might have to confront someone or something, someone steps in for her. I’m not criticizing her again, because I think her leaving others to fight is the right choice considering that she’s pregnant, and it is clearly not easy for her. But the fact that it’s repeated so frequently within such a short span of chapters is almost certainly deliberate, and Ishida is probably setting up this pattern to warn us of something coming.

Firstly, Yomo (family, he almost died), then the 0 Squad (children, 2 did die), Hinami (basically family, almost died), the Quinxes (Kaneki’s kids). It’s repeated four times in 20 chapters. The common thread in all these is that they’re related to children or family. Thus I’m predicting Touka is going to be forced to fight at some point for her child (family, a child)–for her child’s life, but also for a world in which her half-ghoul child will not be looked down upon for their nature. (I’m really starting to wonder if V is going to show up when she goes to dig him out.) 

Keeping in mind the story’s themes, this is also significant because it’s basically telling Touka she cannot run away from the conflict (again why it might make narrative sense for V to show). Not even that she’s tried to necessarily, but let’s look at Yoshimura. He did much good in his life and Touka parallels him in :re, but he also utterly failed as a father and in the end believed people should pay for their sins and basically at Anteiku wanted to commit suicide to atone. He more or less maintained the status quo, but Touka–his parallel in :re–cannot do that. :re was burned down. And she can’t run from what her husband’s become (and she isn’t trying to because she loves him, and that’s good). But she’s probably going to have to face the dark outside forces that create the birdcage they all live in, which people have, thus far, largely ignored.

Ch. 136: Parallels to the Blue Sect?

thedarkestcrow:

So the current chapter showed some details that really made me wonder if there are parallels of the cult back then to the Blue Sect from the current arc. Now I’m probably just overthinking things but still…

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(we know that the Blue Sect is all about ‘stars’, especially the ‘Blue Star’ which is surely real Ciel…)

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During the summoning ritual when Sebastian appears we can see that the ceiling of the building the cultists use shows stars, as well:

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And then there’s the thing about the blood. We know the Blue Sect is collecting a lot of blood and seems to be using if for their ‘stars’ (in order to keep them alive or to revive them in the first place or for whatever reason…). Now in the current chapter we not only see Sebastian appearing from real Ciel’s blood…

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…but the cultist also talk about wanting to summon a “beast that sups on spilled blood”.

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Now I wonder if these parallels are intentional…