I admire Ann for being a lady that stood up against the idea of how a Victorian woman should but that ‘s it .I pretty much disliked the woman . I mean it’s one thing when you have a child like Lizzy favoring a twin over the other but for a grown up to play favorite between her nephews and our poor baby was aware of it .It’s just awful, I’m hoping that Frances will do better .

Hello Anon. And honestly? S a m e! Except that I don’t dislike Red, I’m really just neutral.

I do agree that she was an amazing example as a Lady in appearance: being able to stand up for her dream of becoming a doctor, for not being stereotypical as a Victorian woman (just like the whole female cast of Kuroshitsuji though), etc. Otherwise though, she was pretty pitiful because full of issues she never managed to solve, way before the twins were even born. ://

I know Ann really tried to be better and happier and it’s a series of unfortunate events in such a short period of time that eventually made her crazy, but still:

  • her everlasting crush obsession with Vincent?  
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  • Misunderstanding what her sister (who she claimed she loved and I don’t doubt that) was about and why Vincent chose her, which ultimately led to a lot jealousy? 
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  • Playing favorite between her nephews, most likely because real!Ciel acted more similar to Vincent than our!Ciel did back then?
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  • Giving Lizzie a controversial advice?
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[EDIT: I believe it’s the effect of Ann’s “advice” mixed with real!Ciel’s comment about being scared of strong women that gave Lizzie her self-confidence issues. However Ann, just like real!Ciel, obviously didn’t mean for their words to have such an impact. 

So I don’t blame either of them but I think it was foolish of Ann to believe in such concepts when it didn’t apply to her, Lizzie, Frances or Rachel. This scene is Ann trying to justify why Vincent chose Rachel over her (more demure, perfect, lady-like Rachel or so she thinks), but she’s completely getting the wrong idea.

Vincent didn’t love Rachel because she was delicate and lovely: he was raised by a woman who was the Queen’s Watchdog before him and his sister is one of the strongest aristocrats in the country. The man himself told Ann that being different was a good thing. It’s Ann who misunderstood with such concepts in mind, eventually becoming jealous of Rachel.]

  • And finally, trying to kill her nephew and making him feel guilty about all that happened with her when he already had a lot to deal with? 
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Yeah, I can’t forgive her for all that stuff, even if she had terrible circumstances. The horrible circumstances is why I pity rather than dislike her (and also because our!Ciel still loves her, in spite of everything), but unfortunately, as an adult she had no right to take it out on her already traumatized nephew. 

In that, I have 0 doubt that Frances already did better plenty of times (and will hopefully keep that up in the future, even if we can’t be 100% sure).

In fact, as I pointed out before, personally I think the timing of her introduction (right after Ann’s funerals and on Ciel’s birthday, taking him out hunting so that he’ll have fun) is no coincidence, in order to show how different the two women might turn out to be, where our!Ciel is concerned.

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And while Ann mostly used to get involved with Ciel’s work as the Watchdog, Frances rather does simple little things to show her support: 

  • like the hunting game for his birthday, 
  • agreeing that he should come in vacations with them and take time off work during the Campania arc, 
  • probably allowing Lizzie to visit him whenever so that he won’t be alone,
  • not saying anything about the Blue Miracle even if she knew it was all fake from the start, 
  • maybe keeping the secret of him lying about his identity if she indeed knew, etc.

She would probably do more, but my theory is that she understands that he went through something horrible 4 years ago + that, mostly, she’s probably wary of Seb. And there is Tanaka keeping an eye on him anyway, possibly out of devotion for Claudia’s family (as he implied recently), so it works out. 

And hey, speaking of which, Frances’ mom was very probably murdered when she was like 12 years old…

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…we don’t know what happened to Cedric K. Ros– (her father) but I doubt it was more joyful, her older brother was murdered too and only one of her nephews came back after being abducted, but we never saw her taking it out on our!Ciel and making him more miserable.

So Red truly had 0 excuse. Maybe if she hadn’t been so very alone (or misled by Grell, because let’s be honest, that also played a part), she wouldn’t have fallen so low, but the JTR arc still happened and now she will never have a way to make amends for it. ://

These are the two main differences between her and Lizzie: kids are selfish and don’t know better, so yes, ten year old Lizzie half-unknowingly having a preference for real!Ciel is not to be put on the same level as an actual adult making a difference between her two nephews (with her favorite coincidentally being the one who acted more like the man she was obsessed with). 

And secondly, Lizzie never tried to murder our!Ciel and that kinda accounts for a lot. Besides, Lizzie feels horrible about realizing that her younger self was very selfish and that’s actually huge character development when she’s only 15.

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TL;DR I think Ann was a very interesting character but the story presented her as a despicable person who will never be able to make amends for what she did (and I doubt that there will ever be more than that to her, unfortunately). 

That’s just a fact: it doesn’t mean we readers or our!Ciel should hate her, but when it comes to him having at least one outstanding adult figure in his life, well, that never was her. ://

However, I agree with you that this person could be Frances. If anything, in ch14 even Seb seemed to think that this idea could work out, but I guess we’ll have to see if that is what Sensei planned for her character. 

Sorry for rambling, I kinda love the subject! ^^” Thanks for sharing your thoughts Anon, I hope you’ll have a nice week ahead! 

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akumadeenglish:

The more I think about OC’s low self-esteem, the more it makes me sad :/

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We know from Lizzy’s words in ch14 that Madam Red’s favourite was RC.

And in ch13, when Sebastian asks OC why he didn’t shoot Madam Red, he answers…

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“I felt Madam Red would not be able to kill Ciel, her kin.”

YenPress translated the line as “she would not be able to kill me”, but in the original Japanese version, OC says “she would not be able to kill Ciel” and refers to “Ciel” in third person. Clearly, he is not referring to himself, but to RC in this scene. 

OC knew that RC was Madam Red’s favourite. Therefore, he believes that the only reason why she hesitated to kill him is that she believed he was “Ciel”, the nephew she loved best. And this is incredibly sad because it sounds as if OC is saying:

“Madam Red couldn’t kill me because she believed I’m “Ciel”, her favourite. Had she known that I am not “Ciel” but the twin, she might have killed me”.

Someone give this poor baby a big hug…! ; _ ;

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Bonus:

The truly sad thing about all this is that the real reason why Madam Red couldn’t kill her nephew was that he reminded her too much of Rachel. She had a  love/hate relationship to her sister and at the very crucial moment her love for her sister outweighed the hatred for her, and that’s why she hesitated.

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So OC’s assumption that she hesitated only because it’s her “favourite” nephew is wrong

But yeah, of course, there’s no one to clear up the misunderstanding and OC continues to have an extremely low self-esteem… *sobs*

((( We don’t know for sure whether Madam Red knew OC’s true identity – I strongly believe she didn’t – but either way, the problem is that OC himself believed that Madam Red believed he was RC. )))

For a long time I really thought that Worick had betrayed Alex and Nicolas because he didn’t want to die in the chaos that Gina said would hit the town (since he’s a normal guy) but you’re probably right when you say it goes deeper than that. I hope so because I loved his character and I don’t want to start hating him.

Hey Anon 🙂 Ah, well, I think Worick is one of the most complex characters of Gangsta. to be very honest with you, so doubting him, especially after what he did, is natural (and probably what Sensei was going for).

However, there was only one real betrayal so far and it was Daniel Monroe’s. Uranos Corsica doesn’t count, at least not for me: we always could guess he was shady since it was said from the beginning that he hated the Twilights. 

But personally I could never doubt Worick (he’s my son and I will fight against everyone if I have to, just like Georgina said men and women used to fight over him), at least I didn’t till now because we’re talking about this man: 

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Like, I know we know nothing about Alex yet: we don’t know why she remembers Nicolas from obviously before ch1, why Worick wanted to save her in the first place (there is probably a reason) but still, he extended a hand towards her, he gave her shelter and even a way out, so no way is he a total asshole who betrayed her and Nico.

Besides, Nico obviously still believes in his partner

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so even less reason to think Worick did what he did to follow in Monroe’s footsteps. 

…Not to ramble, but to make a final point about why I don’t think Worick could ever become a full villain in the story: I remember checking the tags a while ago and I saw a post that said that Uranos Corsica’s and Daniel Monroe’s backstabbing was Sensei’s way to denounce white supremacy. 

As it is, I don’t entirely agree (gotta be careful with that kind of concept), because Loretta and Gina are white too, but I think the point the person was trying to make was overall valid: Sensei does add all kinds of representation as much as she can and that’s amazing.

So yeah, two powerful white guys stabbed everyone in the back for their own interests, destroying the fragile balance of Ergastulum and it’s indeed up to the lesbian leader of a mercenary guild 

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and a young girl trying to uphold her father’s legacy 

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to try and stabilize things as much as they can.

And to help them? The Benriya, composed of a disabled swordsman of mixed Asian-White origin, a black woman suffering from PTSD because of her days as a drugged prostitute and, since I don’t believe Worick betrayed them, a gigolo aka a man who prostitutes himself (and who has tons of issues to solve). 

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You see, Worick fits the same pattern as Loretta, Gina, Nico and Alex

(I didn’t mention slightly more minor characters like Delico, Chad, Nina and Theo, but you get the point): yes he’s white, but he’s not of the same brand as Uranos Corsica and Daniel Monroe, so he too will be used as a pawn to play against them and the rest of the government.

That’s a little simplifying things, since I’m not even sure I really trust Gina, but you get the idea. 

And honestly if Worick’s going to reach for the government through using the Corsica family, then he’d better act the hell out of everything and make even us readers doubt, eh? 🙂

Eventually though, I’m pretty sure that, just like how Worick decided to try and “get in the way” for the sake of others, he’ll need to be saved too, hopefully by Nico and Alex who will believe in him till the end.

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My son is a good man (or well, maybe not good, but not exactly an asshole to the people he cares about), so please don’t hate him. :))

Thanks for passing by Anon and have a nice weekend! 

do you know any blog that writes meta for d gray man?

Hey Anon! Um, I think @into–the–abyss did enjoy the series if my memory doesn’t fail me, but unfortunately they haven’t been around for a while. :/

Otherwise you might as well try with the treasure trove for meta for a lot of different series aka @linkspooky: spooky-chan has a list on her blog about series she’s reading or that she read in the past so check it out and her tags too!

Slight hunch but 0 certainty with the great @aspoonofsugar because we talked about reading a lot of series and I wonder if we mentioned this one. xD

Otherwise, I suggest you use the tumblr search bar with “d gray man meta” and you might find some results. 🙂 Or post something in the d gray man tags and see if people rec some blogs! 

Sorry that I can’t help more, I hope you find what you’re looking for. Have a nice weekend!

I wanted to ask you about personal favourite characters in Black Butler and if there is a character you hate. Thanks for the answer!

Hey Anon 🙂 Nah, as some sort of personal rule, I don’t hate stuff in relation with fiction. I just don’t see the point.

Of course, there are characters I like less than others and some I don’t like at all, but in general they’re the truly unreedemable kind, like Kelvin or anyone involved with the twins’ trauma in ch135, as far as Kuroshitsuji is concerned.

I guess I’m pretty meh towards John Brown too, but that’s because I am suspecting him of being the big bad along with Queen Victoria and I love the Phantomhive family a lot so I can’t forgive either of them, if they’re the ones who cursed the family for the last two or three generations

I also am not that fond of characters that are a little uni-dimensional, but I’d say that’s more in relation to the ‘trope effect’ of some parts of Sensei’s writing with some secondary characters: like Phipps (too perfect, pretty boring), Randall (too angry, at least voice it out man), the ex-P4/now S4 (except Violet, he’s got some depth) and maybe a few others I don’t have in mind right now. 

As for characters I love, that’s pretty much everyone else, although I obviously play favorite with some of them: the Phantomhive family & associates are pretty much 80% of why I love this series so much, to be honest.

So our!Ciel, Lizzie, Tanaka, Frances, Edward, Vincent, the Undertaker, Claudia, Alexis, Dee, Lau & Ran-Mao, Soma, Sieglinde, the servants, Agni, Seb, Rachel, I like all of them. 😀

The twin is kinda a question mark tho’ because I haven’t seen enough of him yet to consider if I like to despise him as a villain or if I’m pretty meh about him too (even if I’m aware I may be influenced by the fact I never was fond of the 2CT). The possible twist of the RCMT is one I find very enjoyable though, so I’m pretty sure it’s going to end up being the former possibility. 

I hope it answers your question Anon, have a nice weekend! :))

Hello, in TG Ishida Sensei seems to like showing his characters die, and if they aren’t explicitly shown dead they may still be alive (ex.when Eto wasn’t confirmed to have died at Cochlea many assumed she would reappear). That being said, after :re chapter 50 when Furuta attacks Matsumae with a chainsaw it never actually shows her being killed (only Furuta is shown).Also, in chapter 53 when Furuta rips off her kagune her corpse isn’t shown. So, do you think it’s possible she survived?

Hi Anon!

Well, no, to be honest with you, I don’t think Matsumae survived that chainsaw and neither did Hairu, Karren or even Eto (who else is there?) when it comes to their own death circumstances. 

Since you mentioned Eto, I have yet to reread TG but, about the last arc and last chapters of :Re, in my opinion Eto was actually dead all along. She died in Cochlea like she said she might… 

it’s just that the Clowns collected her body and Donato made a dead puppet out of her to “stall for time” during the last arc. 

It’s hard to explain how this works exactly, since the Clowns and their powers remained mysterious till the end, but whatever they used to make a puppet out of her, killing V was the only conscious thing she was able to do before she “died again”. 

That’s just my opinion though. The other possibility is that she did survive Cochlea thanks to the Clowns (probably Nico who healed her) and they kept her as a prisoner until she could be useful, during the last arc, while controlled by Donato. The attacks she faced ended up killing her for good, even though she managed to take it out on V’s members a little. 

Whichever option you prefer should be in theory correct as far as Eto goes. 

However, Matsumae didn’t get so lucky (?). And besides, if she had survived, shouldn’t she have been by Shuu or Mirumo’s sides? 

So, I’m sorry Anon but not likely for Matsumae. ://

As always, just my opinion though, you don’t have to agree. Have a nice weekend Anon! 🙂

Hello! :) Do you think it is possible that Undertaker had brought back to life not only R!Ciel but Madame Red, Joker and Doll as well? I can’t stop thinking about it after rereading the Green Witch Arc and ch.141. Thank you!

akumadeenglish:

Hi! Sorry for the late answer.

Theoretically, yes, I think it’s possible. Undertaker was the one in charge for Madame Red’s funeral so he definitely had the opportunity to experiment on her body. As for Joker and Doll, UT was at the scene when that tragedy in Kelvin’s manor happened, and we know UT can easily retrieve a body from a burning building without Seb noticing (just like the case with RC 3 years ago), so it’s possible that UT is in possession of Joker’s body.  

That being said, I can’t really think of a good reason why UT would want to revive these people. I mean, his main goal is to “not lose the Phantomhives anymore” (ch140), so it remains a mystery why he would be interested in reviving Madam Red, Joker and Doll – who are not Phantomhives – in the first place. The only reason I can think of is that he just needed as many bodies as possible for his Bizarre Doll experiments (though, iirc he had collaborated with Dr. Stoker’s hospital and was provided with enough bodies to experiment on, but yeah, maybe he just needed more…).

Plot-wise though, we know that Madam Red’s, Joker’s and Doll’s deaths deeply traumatized OC as we see them in his nightmare in ch95 along with RC, Vincent and Rachel, so maybe Yana will have them reappear and thus have OC face his trauma once again, idk. (I mean, she loves to have the characters from past arcs reappear in later arcs…xD)

Conclusion: I think the plot twist is possible, but I’m not sure whether I personally like this kind of plot twist (probably bc I don’t really feel attached to Madam Red, Joker & Doll).