Okay so I reread the chapter carefully but I haven’t come across any implication that Rize was supposedly dead, Anon. 🙂 So I don’t know what made you reach such conclusion, but personally I didn’t understand anything like that.
Anyway, since I don’t think Rize is dead, that means I’m still of the idea that Furuta will get to be eaten by her, just like he wanted, as mutual payback:
Rize used him to get out, Furuta used her to change this world and because he didn’t want her to belong to anyone else, so she’ll get to eat him which will give Furuta what he wished for ever since childhood…
and Rize will get her strength and freedom back in exchange.
Don’t worry though, there is probably some time before it happens, or at least even if it happens soon, at least it won’t be offscreened. As you said, there is still a bunch of stuff we need to learn from Furuta, namely:
how he made Rize escape
how/when he met Kanou
how/when/why he chose to go seek the Clowns
what was his deal with V when Tsuneyoshi died
So we’ll see him again and Rize surely, too. 🙂 I hope it helps, have a nice day!
Hi Anon and don’t worry, I totally agree with you! In my opinion, there are two reasons this statement sounds weird:
to avoid confirming/denying the UT = Cedric theory, because him caring about the P family is simply linked to whatever happened with Claudia
because, if the UT = Cedric theory is true, UT’s probably not exactly the best parental figure anyway.
#1 is just the way Sensei rolls, so moving on to #2: we’re talking about someone who, despite obviously caring about the P family in his own way, still let the Campania arc happened after realizing that Ciel was on the same ship, to say nothing of him becoming (unless he already was) a mass-murderer with a smile on his face.
Of course, UT’s reasoning during the Campania arc was that Ciel would definitely be safe because Seb would protect him…
…but that doesn’t make UT less of an asshole in general, and same goes for possibly knowing that the Midfords were there too but deciding that
¯_(ツ)_/¯
they would surely be safe because they are skilled + Ciel wouldn’t let anything happen to them anyway.
So, as I was saying, if UT somehow is Cedric, then I doubt he ever was “daddy of the year”, if just because if he’s Cedric, then how comes Tanaka was all that Vincent and Frances had left after Claudia passed away? It doesn’t even matter whether or not he was around or her husband or whatever. From the moment they were 15 and 12/13 years old, the least to do is to keep an eye on them immediately after.
But hey, while we’re on the subject, this is UT during the Weston arc…
and sometimes I really wish I could wave in front of his face and say “hi, Shinigamis are originally humans too, you know?”.
I mean, I’m aware that we didn’t know about the true nature of Shinigamis back then, but still personally I think that speaks volumes about UT’s current psychology not being what you’d call “usual”, which is why it’s not so surprising that he’d fit on the margin of society.
Then again, it was implied that he didn’t have a very happy existence, so it makes sense that we know he can care about others (obviously he showed us that with Vincent and Ciel), but it’s just often not… demonstrated in the best way or for the most logical reasons.
This is my example of Tanaka apparently being the only parental figure Frances and Vincent had left after Claudia passed away yet again, no matter if the UT = Cedric theory is true or not…
Because in my conception of UT’s character and considering how he’s still crying about Vincent in canon, I really wouldn’t be surprised if UT turned out to be utterly depressed after Claudia’s death (especially if he was in love with her), until he remembered that she had kids (who possibly are also his)
he might as well keep an eye on.
So you see, for all we know initially it probably even wasn’t directly for the sake of Claudia’s kids that he became one of Vincent’s evil nobles, that is, until he got attached to Vincent too. In that case (sorry for rambling xD), it’s the same thing for that weird sentence of ch131…
…that I personally chose to interpret as UT implying that he would care about the twins “because they’re Phantomhives” (as in “related to Claudia/Vincent”) and not because he’s possibly their grandfather.
Again, I don’t know if the reason for that is that he was so enthralled by Claudia that it was not even about his own feelings at first but about what he thinks she would have wanted, or just that he simply doesn’t know how to act in a normal way and thus all that he’d rather do is awkwardly care from afar.
TL;DR UT is such a pain as a character sometimes, because he’s definitely selfish and he acts terribly, but at the same time you can’t really doubt of how much he cares and gets involved when it comes to Claudia’s family:
if he’s Cedric, he possibly abandoned Frances and Vincent (whether or not he was around in the first place) for a few years after Claudia died, which kinda sucks,
but he still ended up coming back as “the Undertaker” after a few years and dedicated a large part of his time to helping Vincent with the Watchdog duty
also he barely knew the twins that he had already decided he’d care about them just because they were related to Claudia/Vincent
Caring about Ciel didn’t stop him from throwing him off a staircase though, because he knew Seb would protect Ciel and he wanted to get to Seb
and yet, UT’s involvement in the Campania and Weston arcs could also be seen as possibly trying to get to the Queen, because the Watchdog duty remains one of the two big threats that could end up killing Ciel.
Anyway, sorry for rambling. x) As you can see, I love how complex UT’s character is but I agree that it’s slightly painful how full of contradictions he seems to be. :3 Maybe knowing more about him will help us understanding him or his motivations better though, so please just take everything with a grain of salt!
I hope it’s a little helpful, have a nice day as well Anon. ^3^
Why do these things always come to me while I’m making food? O.o
We all know Shiemi gets exhausted when she overtaxes her powers (Shemihaza nephilim or something similar), and this time, she even got a nosebleed.
What if every time she creates life with Nii-chan as a conduit (he provides the earth) that she uses a bit of her own life force to do it. That would make things EXTREMELY dangerous for her to continue using them in such a way and being an Exorcist would quite literally shorten her life. She gets taxed far more than any other tamer when using Nii-chan to grow plants. (Link to larger version of image below.)
Altered the image used to illustrate better.
I’m positive her mom has ulterior motives, and this is a little out there, but maybe THAT’S what she was told to her and it scared her into quitting, on top of being HUGE info [Nephilim]. She’s too far removed from being a “living concept” (as Mephisto described demons)
and is a flesh and blood creature, there is no endless source of power. She can’t generate life from nothing and it has to come from somewhere… herself.
And just like how Yukio was concerned that Rin was using his flames too much (at the cost of his humanity), her power use comes with a cost, too. Her life. Her version of being “consumed by the flames” would be dying. That would definitely put the brakes of her becoming any sort of super-badass, godly Exorcist.
That would also explain why she’s so torn about her decision but still doesn’t hesitate to use it to save people, and also explain the reason for her to not tell her friends about why she’s quitting… shame. She’s being “selfish” in wanting to live, and for her, that would be against everything she stands for: being selfless.
I need to stop editing after posting initially. :S
for real tho’ I am not ready for the truth behind the blue night starting next month, because I just know it’s going to be a sad and depressing story (we all do) and yet look at this tricky asshole there, giving us his biggest snake smile yet
I’m sorry, please know that I rarely ever act like that, but there is clearly just so many things you are misreading about Berserk and its characters that I couldn’t help myself.
Had you written your comment differently (in a slightly less presumptuous way), I would have probably chosen to answer differently too, because I’m always happy to explain stuff to anyone. However, you’re kinda disdaining great writing by acting very ignorant of canon and that’s something I definitely can’t close my eyes on, so let me break that down for you:
…
doesn’t sound fake but okay.
Things actually changed so much between them after they admitted to being in love with each other that even Griffith, who saw nothing but his torturer for one year, noticed immediatelythat something changed between them and gave them the stare™ more than once.
Of course, it’s also not like Guts loved Casca, otherwise, you know…
he wouldn’t have offered to stay for her sake when she cried about leaving a weakened Griffith behind, despite not even being willing to do it for Griffith.
And of course, it’s not like Femto raped Casca partially as a punishment to both Guts and Casca because his huge ass ego made it unbearable for him not to be the center of their little trio anymore after Guts and Casca had started to revolve around each other and not around him anymore.
So it apparently is news for you, but yeah they did love each other.
“narratively is no longer necessary in the plot”
omg
did you actually read the manga or did you just watch the anime and then go comment on my post somehow?
“narratively is no longer necessary in the plot”
I mean, yeah no, it’s not like Guts let go of his freaking revenge against Griffith just to make sure Casca would be safe?????
It’s not like, even when Guts loses control with the armor, the simple thought of Casca helps bringing him back
and it’s not like this scene happened too:
and whatever he said, that was enough for the two other girls who have a crush on him to understand they would never have any chance.
I only gave you a few examples but frankly the story is full of more…
So I’m sorry, I really really don’t want to come across as being rude, because it’d be my pleasure to debate about Berserk with anyone, but if you really need Miura-sensei to describe word by word everything that he directly shows and implies through his amazing artstyle and characterization/development, you’re going to have some difficulties with some other parts of Berserk’s plot.
I don’t disagree with you on the idea that things between Guts and Casca won’t immediately go back to the way they were once Casca comes back, as the Skull Knight already warned Guts about, and as I wrote about in the past. However, I do not, in any way, think that it’s a dynamic that’s going to stay strained.
Guts and Casca are the main characters of Berserk. They were in love, Sensei dedicated many volumes to build up to them realizing their feelings for each other, so there is frankly no doubt about that and I’m sorry to see that you’d think otherwise. It’s the Eclipse and Griffith that fucked everything up, but you can be sure that their romance is still and will keep on being at the heart of the story.
For now things between them are strained (for several reasons) and will probably be for a while longer, but ultimately, I do not think it will stay like that, hence why I’m baffled that you’d say it’s no longer narratively meaningful, especially when they have a son, conceived out of love, who’s also a huge part of the plot.
Finally, Sensei kinda implied before that, Berserk being such a dark story, its ending probably wouldn’t be as grim and considering, again, how the Gutsca dynamic is such a main part of Berserk, you can be sure that it’s also meant to be partially about that.
Berserk is a very complex story, so I don’t blame you for misunderstanding some parts of it, but IDK, maybe reread it from the beginning because you really have the wrong idea about Gutsca and they kinda are the main characters.
Have a nice day.
goSH SENSEI WON’T STOP ABOUT THEM BEING A FREAKING SET
bonus, from ch131 when Touka tells him she’s pregnant:
real interesting talk there, “Rize”.
tbh though, I wonder if the first OEK…
…who, despite what Matsuri implied, was probably treated like shit by his family for being different + was feared because he was way stronger, isn’t the reason the Washuus/V are trying to be “more humans” in the first place (since it’s also what Arima told Kaneki in ch83):
hence what “Rize” said about pure ghoul blood being inferior to other people who had more “human” in them in this family
In that aspect, I think maybe that’s why the Washuus were so fond of Arima, because of how strong he was even though he was a half human.
A hybrid of a human and ghoul is stronger, it doesn’t even matter if the baby turns out to be a half human (Arima) or a OEG (One Eyed Washuu), overall it’s apparently just better than being a pure ghoul.
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