why do you hate hide so much?? i know his fans can be annoying but hide really didnt do anything wrong

lilacflamesss:

Now, look here. I think people are getting me wrong.

I love Hideyoshi Nagachika, Ishida Sui’s character who was a huge moral support to Kaneki for a huge portion of his life, is probably the one of the shadiest characters in the series with a extremely dubious concept of morality, who on his own was able to fool a ghoul and place a tracker on him, ‘fought’ a ghoul using ketchup and firecrackers that led a bunch of ghoul investigators to actually eliminate said ghoul why he quietly snuck off, infiltrated the CCG so that he can obtain information and maybe find his best friend and ends up becoming a huge reason why Kaneki regained his reason to live. 

I hate the Hideyoshi Nagachika that was the fandom’s creation, who’s apparently the sole sunshine and cinnamon roll of this series, has done absolutely nothing wrong, will hurt nobody at all, who’s predicted to finally show up at some point in time and magically cure Kaneki’s depression and PTSD to return all happiness and sunshine to his life and whose biggest purpose right now is to come back like some prince on a white horse to rescue the damsel in distress Kaneki Ken from the raging and despicable demon otherwise known as Kirishima Touka. 

I’ve been talking to a few mutuals recently about Hide and we think Hide’s character has been warped by a huge portion of his fandom already. So when on Tumblr, I don’t really talk much about him? But if I am honest, while Hide isn’t as high up on my faves list as he used to be, I still really like him. His story in the novel is one of my favorites ever because he’s so sneaky and cool and I generally love characters with intelligence and insight (which is why I was attracted to Hide in the first place). I talk a lot about him with my friends irl as well. Anon, I don’t hate Hide and I don’t hate Hidekane. Don’t get me wrong. 😛

aflyawaykindaday:

Reading Berserk 349, and in the convo between Guts, Serpico, and Roderick (about Farnese and how much she’s changed), it occurred to me just how much good Guts and Casca have both done. Like even as damaged as they both are, they’ve managed to touch these lives around them and change them for the better, to transform and heal and inspire these strangers and create this ragtag family with them. That’s a powerful message, I think, that as hopeless as one may think they are, or as damaged as they may be, they still have value. They still have good to give and good to receive. And while this sentiment can apply to all of Guts’ Party in some way, there’s an extra power to it for Guts and Casca, whose stories we’ve followed all this time. We’ve seen all their horrors with them, one after another; firsthand we’ve seen the damage done to them, and felt the hopelessness of their shared fates, and are still feeling some of it as we hope for Casca’s recovery. But it’s really nice to know that, regardless of all that they’ve been through, they’ve done this. Touched these lives and made them better, and especially in Guts’ case, become better themselves in the process.

I really really hope that, if and when Casca recovers, we get even more of this. Guts and Casca continuing to have this influence on others, small as it may seem in the grand scheme of everything, and feeling that influence in return.

Where do you think Seidou fits into the current Akira + Amon thing? Considering his arc is unresolved with both characters?

undergroundsky:

If there is anything that has the capacity of revealing the fallacy of their romance, Takizawa’s absence is more than likely it. Whereas many readers take the Amon and Akira relationship as an ostensible parallel to that of Kaneki and Touka, I’ve always seen it as uniquely isolated in various aspects, primarily owing to the gravity of Takizawa’s existence to them.

Amon’s myopic definition of atonement and justice propelled him to seek out Takizawa on Rushima as if to protect himself from his own departure from moral integrity. To succeed in ripping Takizawa from the jaws of complete corruption is to grant himself security in his emptiness, to realize that the light in the world hadn’t faded after all.

image

With Takizawa now out of sight and Kurona apparently having regained stability, Amon rapidly shifts his attention to Akira instead of chasing after them to speak as he was wont to prior to his arrival at Goat’s hideout. Like Kaneki, he juggles in his hands the lives of the people he believes he should be held responsible for; in an ironic twist, he himself ended up being saved

in the lab infiltration mini-arc by the two people he fruitlessly ran around to save for years following his transformation. He can ill afford to relinquish his role as the vigilant martyr, for only in the redemption of his former comrades can he find his own. Of course, that includes Akira.

I think the conversations between Akira and Kaneki as of late are very telling of how she perceives the few she entrusted with as much intimacy as she could allow herself, how this—

image
image

—can also be interpreted as a reverberation of her underlying muddled feelings in regard to the contrast between the human “Takizawa Seidou” she was attached to and the ghoul “Owl” he has devolved into. No matter the substance of Takizawa’s thoughts and memories as they may now be, Akira wants to convince herself that such a person can’t be in her future because the investigator as she knew him did not survive the raid mission, the investigator as she knew him was not a homicidal traitor who could desecrate their organization and murder the superior he respected.

image

However, this is the same Akira that clings steadfast to the name of “First-Class Amon” and moves to kiss him for his words of solace when she most needed to hear them. He sympathizes with her pain. In these moments, Amon is as much a ghoul to her as “Sasaki Haise” was before.

That she is a product of her environment notwithstanding, Akira not only views Amon as a vessel in which she must invest her desires, but as a sanctuary from the dissonance of the outside world she is due to face as a result of her interaction with Touka and Hinami.

Despite her scene with Amon, she clearly mentions that her hapless reliance on Haise was born of emotional exigency upon her loss of both Amon and Takizawa. Of the two, Akira establishes the former as the lone safe connection that fulfills her selfish nostalgia because he never scorned her, never pushed her away. But that doesn’t erase her sacrificial act of shielding Takizawa and what she said to him, and the events in this chapter would have no doubt played out differently had he stayed.

image

What if…back then…I had stopped you?

It might very well have been the guilt talking, but there is a reason for that, why her last memory of him was him turning his back to her and leaving her alone, just as he remembered her doing on countless occasions. They wasted so long walking away

in turn

from one another without getting anywhere but closer to lost.

image

What’s uncanny is their identical approach to withdrawing from Goat, the “I’m done with you, so you’re none of my business anymore” rationale as though they’re channeling this sentiment using Kaneki as a conduit. Tragic, how they somehow invent ways to grow further apart even when they are not sharing a space.

While her question is a heavy one that will probably never be answered, if there is a chance, it’s too soon because it demands genuine self-reflection. In fact, I think your theory on the current moon arc folds nicely into the plot with Amon and Akira — they’re ensnared in their recycled delusions, feeding off each other with no one to wake them. Takizawa’s reintroduction would signify the point of divergence into the

conceivable

death of their fantasy.

image
image

The rosary is

a relic of Amon’s blissfully ignorant childhood, a chain of penitence originally given to him by Donato. In ridding himself of it, he seems to have forgotten about his old friend, as well as his anger for his foster father; that was him symbolically shifting his burdens onto Takizawa and fettering him to lucid reality in his stead. So Takizawa chose to run from Amon and Akira like an owl deserting its roost because he had made his peace with his identity and purpose, and he could no longer call them “home” insofar as he is to remain what he is. To him, this is the afterlife of his own elaborate construction, liberation from and mockery of his true self to the utmost degree.

Except Takizawa isn’t dead, not really. He’s a wanderer with only his shadow and a prayer for company, and the Oggai are out for the harvest. What with his line from the original series that appeared to foreshadow some sort of involvement with the Clowns (“Shit…I’m definitely on the clown course…”) and his possession of the rosary, I almost expect him to cross paths with Donato, which would inevitably deliver Amon back within grasp. Ideally, his returning the beads to Amon directly would trigger a domino effect of them gaining solemn clarity one at a time.

For Amon, to confront the man who raised and betrayed him is to stop idling and begin to come to terms with the fear and self-contempt that consumed him, to understand that his morals are his own; for all the admiration he has for the people precious to him, their lives, deaths, and salvation are not things he has to shoulder in penance for every child he let die at the orphanage. There is the plausibility that he will succumb to his terror for a while; Amon never figured out how to restrain his berserk state, and if this arc is mirroring the Anteiku raid, it would be satisfying to see a predecessor–successor battle parallel between Juuzou and kakuja-Amon as seen with Shinohara and Yoshimura. He vows to serve as Akira’s guiding light through her darkness, and this is not so much a lie as it is a shade of truth foretelling his role in her epiphany. As the person fueling her illusions, his release is the preeminently necessary step toward hers.

Akira is a capable strategist who can aid in Kaneki’s quest for equilibrium, but she opts to escape, mind thrown into disarray and unwilling to accept her place in the struggle. Violent hatred was her weapon that she doesn’t have anymore, thus she can’t fight, thus she turns to devote all of her being to its sheer opposite

— love

at the quickest opportunity. She has yet to comprehend that people are more than simple manifestations of hate, love, emptiness. When she learns that she doesn’t have to lean on Amon for emotional and existential validation, that her heart has always belonged to her, she will be free to pay the same favor to Takizawa, to breach his barrier and pull him from despair: You don’t need me as a reason to live your life, to be who you are. Hero or not, you’re still you even after everything.

Letting go is a three-way process for them. It is also their conclusion. They fall two paces back for every one in defiance of reuniting with their forsaken selves, their sense of self that is an indispensable part of opening their eyes to absolute awareness. Takizawa is the one among them who is most self-determined, therefore the catalyst to get the reaction going. I thoroughly enjoy this trio in spite of this, because of this, because they need each other in order to be free of each other. Once the veil of fog lifts and forces them into sobriety from the corrosive cycle of deceit and self-deception, they’ll be able to see their vital lies for what they were — lies.

We’re all well acquainted with your opinion of Kaneki but I’m curious about what you think of Sasaki (technically the same person, but different enough to *hopefully* merit another assessment?)

randomthoughtpatterns:

What do you mean by “technically”, anon? He is the same person. He didn’t have a magical personality transplant just because someone slapped a different name on him. Sorry to disappoint, anon.

During the Sasaki era, as I have already said, Kaneki had on a very thin, very unstable façade of being content with his life. I don’t doubt he liked some aspects of it, and he actively tried to enjoy it, but consider that he knew, all the while being friendly with Akira, that she would shoot him if he strayed too far from the “nice” persona; despite caring for Arima he blamed Arima for killing his friends (he might not have officially remembered it, but he knew it not-quite-subconsciously enough to make Ui think he was dangerous). 

We see Akira berate him for being soft with ghouls, but then we find out that he has the highest tier of the Osmanthus Medal (which is for killing over a 100 ghouls in a year). The CCG has a code for him and a procedure for handling him. So we know he’s dangerous and he knows he’s considered dangerous.

Kaneki at the CCG was the same person Kaneki was before the CCG. I think he tried to care, in his own words, for people who ended up being in close proximity to him. I don’t think he did a very good job of being a military commander. A sort of mother-hen figure? Maybe (although again, debatable), but the Qs weren’t a happy family. He had a unit to lead and make sure they won’t be killed in their very first operation. Also he dropped them all like hot potatoes without even a “for their own good” bullshit excuse or some such. Not a particularly caring episode, but Kaneki isn’t a particularly caring person, whatever his name.

Basically I think Kaneki had lived a lie at the CCG and knew that he was living a lie, and that doesn’t usually make anyone any happier.

What do you think that Touka and Kaneki’s plot line will lead up to?

dreamofcentipedes:

image

…Or so we can hope 😉

But in all seriousness, Kaneki did promise to talk with Touka after the Lab Raid, and I get the feeling this is going to happen in Chapter 120, with 118 and 119 dealing with events in the CCG and Akiramon. Why 120? Well, we just had a parallel to the original series’ Kanou’s Lab arc, and a second Anteiku raid has been set up with Takeomi – what major moment between Kaneki and Touka happened between those two arcs in the first manga? 

The confrontation on the bridge in Chapter 120. So mark the 8th April on your calendars, everyone.

Now that they’re both roughly in the same place on the Ghoul/Human spectrum, effective communication between the two of them is looking more and more likely. Kaneki has never been a very open person – Hide was about the only person he opened up to, and that stopped completely when he became a Ghoul. But that’s a trait he and Touka share. She hated for people to see her insecurities and weaknesses, so she covered it up with aggression in an overt display of strength. 

But given how they’ve both matured, I think this conversation will go very differently from the last one. The Amon/Touka conversation we had last chapter hints through Amon at the reason for Kaneki’s own reluctance to talk, but when the talk happens he might be finally convinced to open up about all of the fear, guilt and self-doubt he’s been harbouring. As for Touka, she’ll talk about being left behind by Arata and Ayato and express her will to fight alongside him instead of being protected all the time. Romantic or not, (and given all the sudden canonisations of ships in the latest arc, I’m actually pretty confident in the former), Kaneki and Touka will leave the encounter closer and with clearer consciences. The last encounter ended dramatically with a fight – to mirror that, I think this time around we might get a hug at the very least.

But themes and characters aside, how does this tie into the main plot? Because in the upcoming CCG raid on :re, Touka will be placed in severe danger. Kaneki failed to save the old manager, but will he be able to save the new one? Having finally reached a mutual understanding with her, just like he did with Yoshimura by hearing his story, the stakes will be all the higher. Kaneki and Touka themselves make a nice little parallel for Kuzen and Ukina too – a ghoul and a human who met at a coffee shop and became entangled in each other’s worlds.

The raid on :re will be a delicious opportunity for tragedy for Ishida, and that art with Touka in funereal clothes with Kaneki’s mask leaves me more than a little wary for our main’s safety. However, I see :re as Kaneki being given a chance by the author to do his story again, and to make sure that it’s not a tragedy this time around – a :rewrite, if you will. He’s already made a lot of mistakes on the way but I think we ought to have faith, as Touka did, that he will always be able to return to Anteiku.

purgatoryandme:

I’m still yelling about this chapter!? It’s obvious how much Touka loves Kaneki (platonic, romantic, whatever) and it’s the sweetest thing! There’s no trope I love more than a person loving someone else with no expectation of anything in return! Touka just wants Kaneki to have a home! She just wanted to see him while he was gone to be sure he was alright! aidoiewjoiefoifoihfor!!!!!!!

Touka’s been taught time and again that people don’t come home. She’s been taught that people leave her. She’s been shown by the whole world that all of her relationships will eventually come to end. She fought that FOR YEARS by isolating herself, by pushing people away pre-emptively, or by taking out any threats that entered the scene. The fact that she’s grown to accept this as a reality is amazing! 

By accept I don’t even mean “oh no woe is me everyone leaves” but rather Touka simply…facing it when it comes. Allowing for the possibility without it dragging her down. Enjoying what she has while she has it. 

Though Ishida has a lot of Christian overtures in his work while talking about martyrdom and saviours and evil incarnate, all the true lessons in his work, all the lessons learned by the people who are stable, are Buddhist ideologies. It’s a really cool contrast and all the Kirishimas embody it.

Ayahina time!

lilacflamesss:

Hinami’s scene in this chapter really showed me how she’s such a precious gem, taking care of Akira when she was in coma despite harboring all these thoughts and sorrows by herself. 

But the last time Banjou asked Hinami about Akira, she pretended to be okay and said that she didn’t mind saving Akira since Akira was important to Kaneki. Hinami goes along with the mission to save Akira along with everyone else to support them in saving her. But all this while, Hinami is obviously not okay and she is obviously bothered by saving Akira because no matter how much she’s that nice, sweet girl that brings smiles to everyone, she still has sorrows that she’s carrying in silence. Hinami probably doesn’t want to burden anyone into worrying about her so she’s keeps this from most people.

And the only person (so far) that she’s willing to show this vulnerable side to is Ayato. 

Hinami made it a point to bring him far from the base to talk to him because she wanted it to be in private, between the two of them. And out of all places, Ishida decided on the 19th ward old Aogiri base, the place we first got to learn how close and important their relationship is. We’re brought back to the place Ayato’s rebellion against Tatara/Aogiri starts, where we learn about their first meeting, where the Cochlea raid saw its roots. I’m betting this place is supposed to be some kind of Ayahina Mecca, but we’ll see. 

This scene shows so much about how deep their relationship is. She isn’t close to Ayato just because he reminds her of Touka. Touka’s around now so Hinami doesn’t need a substitute for her anymore. Hinami’s close to Ayato because he cares for her and always supports and protects her. She’s with everyone now. The Ayahina conversation could have happened with anyone now that Hinami is surrounded by the people she loves. But it’s not Kaneki, Touka, Banjou or Tsukiyama she lets to see her at her weakest. It’s Ayato. Because even if Ayahina isn’t romantic, it still is one of the purest, healthiest and most mutually supportive relationship in this series. She knows that Ayato has seen her breakdowns before and despite his ideas on weakness and strength, he has always supported and stood by her. And to me, I think that out of everyone, Ayato’s her best source of comfort right now. Because when she was at the darkest point of her life, when she was all alone in Aogiri, she found a glimpse of light in him and it’s something she’s still holding on to even now.

And just like the other time, he doesn’t judge or complain about her being weak for getting emotional and crying. He just silently comforts her and stands by her. He lets her voice everything out and cry to her heart’s content because there is a chance she might go back to bearing everything in silence where they go back to the base. Not to mention, she’s going to eventually have to face Akira. And I think Ayato’s expression here is precious as well. I want it plastered all over my walls. 

Ayahina brings out the best in each other. Their relationship is like a gem among all relationships in TG, because they bring out the best in each other and is based on mutual support and care. And the best thing is, this relationship came out of two badly damaged, yet very different, teenagers who met in a terrorist organization which prided itself on strength and murders.

rearima:

The important conversations in the next chapters/arc:
Amon – Kaneki
Amon – Akira – Seidou
regarding Kureo Mado: Akira, Amon – Hinami, Touka, (Kaneki)
(^and oh boy…if Arata is also brought up…)
Akira – Kaneki
Touka – Kaneki

(And I want all the conversations! Don’t you dare pull some timeskips and what not on us Ishida!)

and after they’ve resolved their conflicts I want them to sit together in :re and enjoy the delicious coffee over some lighthearted conversations.