Recently, I wrote this post about how Abberline might be able to put some of the pieces together. After all, he realizes that there was little reason for our!Ciel to take on his brother’s identity, and this is more than just a matter of avoiding taxes.
He’s going to be investigating more. If he talks to Prince Soma and Sieglinde, he could even learn a bit more because both of them have a piece of our!Ciel’s story. Soma knows that our!Ciel was kidnapped and tortured by a cult. Sieglinde knows that he was offered as a sacrifice to a demon. Those two clues might really help Abberline in figuring out the truth. However, there is one more piece of the puzzle.
Gregory Violet.
After all, Violet knows that real!Ciel is Sirius, and he also knows why the Blue Sect needed to collect blood. While we have no idea what real!Ciel is telling people about his whereabouts for the past 3 years, Violet does know a bit more. He knows that there’s something much different about real!Ciel.
Last we heard of Violet, he was taking to a hospital as he was barely alive. Presumably he is still there, or he might have been arrested if he has recovered enough. Either way, he would be easy for Abberline to interrogate, and he might have a lot to say.
If it is Edward who figures this out instead of Abberline, as suggested by @midnight-in-town, this train of thought still stands. Violet still could be another piece of the puzzle.
I discussed this privately with a few friends but I actually love the idea a lot so I’m sharing with everyone. 😀
So far in this very long arc, there were a few occasions the focus drifted away from Ciel & Seb. The first major time was at the very beginning of this arc
with Ed being the reason Lizzie went to the Sphere music hall in the first place and the second major time…
led to very unfortunate circumstances. T_T
So I was saying to my friends that I’d love to get some more chapters not focusing on Ciel and Seb, especially now that they’ve been put in a rather awkward position…
and might need the help of others to clear their names if they’re really arrested. And since Soma is hurt, more Ed-centric chapters could be more likely and I’d personally love that.
First of all, it’s hard to believe that Ed won’t question if real!Ciel truly isn’t involved with the Sphere music hall considering that Lizzie is with him and that she left the house for the Sphere music hall over two months ago.
Secondly, Ed is currently the only one who was also there at Weston when UT explained about his latest BDs to Ciel
so, should he recognize UT (even if we know Ed can’t see anyone else when Lizzie is here), he might be able to suspect that something is up with real!Ciel.
As for a team up with Soma, the reasons I find this idea so cool are because Edward and Soma both are characters who are very close to our!Ciel + at the time of ch143, what they know about the current arc is complementary, meaning that if they were to assemble their information, they would both easily realize that our!Ciel was framed.
To explain: what Soma knows and believes is that…
someone who looks exactly like our!Ciel attacked him and Agni, leading to Agni’s murder. So now he’s pissed at our!Ciel because he doesn’t know about the existence of the twin (since our!Ciel never mentioned anything about it).
Meanwhile, Ed just found out that the twin is back…
and that our!Ciel is believed to be behind the blue sect arc for different reasons.
So should Ed see Soma and find out about this…
If Soma tries to argue that our!Ciel did this even if this doesn’t sound like him, then Ed will at least be able to tell Soma that “wait, he actually has a twin brother who just came back???”, which could make Soma realize that his friend is innocent and Ed that the twin is up to no good (especially if he remembers about Weston previously to finding out about the attack on Soma and Agni).
Add Sieglinde…
who heard this, who can confirm that Ciel and Seb are the ones who brought Soma to her and who researched about the blood samples Seb found in the Sphere music hall + Nina…
who helped Ciel and Seb with getting into the Sphere music hall that one time, they will barely need Violet’s confirmation to understand that “Lord Sirius” is in fact the twin (even though I think Violet’ll confirm it either way, because our!Ciel helped him and his friends).
Violet (and also Lizzie) is more likely to be necessary in order to convince the other people involved in this arc that our!Ciel is not Lord Sirius: like the Double Charles (who may end up accusing Ciel of the Parliamentarians’ murders next), Randall (because Abberline won’t be able to convince him on his own I guess) and maybe even Alexis.
TL;DR Ed investigating some more as Ciel is possibly arrested and meeting with Soma could surely be one way for the entire truth to be revealed + also for Soma to stop believing that his best friend attacked him.
I just hope Ed does realize, one way or another, that there is definitely something not right about the twins and Lizzie.
So about this “anonymous report”, I’m wondering if Abberline might not be talking about Violet, because…
…he did tell a policeman in Bath about who the true blue star is in ch129 (something like “Earl Ciel Phantomhive” I guess) and so they could have showed up at Earl Phantomhive’s manor as a result.
The thing is though, Violet knew Bravat was in London, but nothing says he knew Bravat would be hiding at Ciel’s manor (but Scotland Yard could have thought of this by themselves, I guess).
In that case, more than anonymous, it would just mean they don’t want Bravat and his allies to know who sold them out, out of protection for Violet’s sake.
Otherwise it could be Paula…
but, rather than Scotland Yard, that should be the explanation as to why Alexis and Edward are here.
Some fans also mentioned Soma, but then again, Soma didn’t really involve himself with this case and would have no way to know that Bravat could be hiding in Ciel’s manor, so I also doubt it’s him.
In case Abberline means that they really got an anonymous tip however, then the third option is that Bravat was sold out by someone who’s already at the manor and that’s when it becomes trickier to guess, because the only ones who’d have a possible reason to sell Bravat out are:
Lizzie? friendly reminder we still can’t be sure of what she meant by “saving the twin” in ch113. It’s looking more and more likely that this was about not having the same blood type, but she could have meant rescuing him from the sect too, especially since she’s actually crying as she’s exposing our!Ciel as a liar. So we’ll need to see the next chapter to check just how far she’s likely to have been manipulated.
Tanaka? he already knew about real!Ciel coming back it seems and his attitude clearly shows that he’s not at ease with the situation, so who knows what he did or didn’t do at the moment?
Undertaker? that’s mostly if the idea that there are two sides being involved behind the blue sect is correct. If that’s the case, UT could want Bravat out of real!Ciel’s sight and leading Scotland Yard to him could be the easiest way to do this.
(The other servants hardly even noticed that real!Ciel =/= their young master so I don’t think it’s them either and there shouldn’t be anyone else besides the star lords left on Bravat’s side)
Don’t hesitate to share if you’ve got other ideas for that “anonymous report”!
Hey so maybe I’m reading too much into this, but…
look at UT’s face upon Scotland Yard’s arrival, compared to everyone else who is 100% surprised, he’s just… smiling.
So maybe he’s really the one who gave that anonymous report then? And in that case, either it’s because he wants to get rid of Bravat or because he wants a lot of witnesses to something that will happen???
Wait guys,
now that it’s confirmed Othello and UT really did know each other, that means…
that Will had forewarned Othello about UT most likely being the culprit behind this case if the dead was being brought back. And that means…
that UT was the one Othello was talking about in ch119???
I know I’ve been annoying with this theory, but I really think that overall this means there is possibly another party (besides just UT) involved behind the blue sect. [x][x]
And in that case if Bravat and UT aren’t on the same side, that could explain UT possibly leading Scotland Yard right to Bravat, to get rid of him?
Abberline in chapter 143: [entering Phantomhive manor] Hey guys! Sorry to interrupt. So, um, Gregory Violet just told us that someone who looks just like Ciel was in charge of that criminal cult, so we went to find you in London to ask you about it, but we found a dead Indian man in your basement and a threat on your wall, so we have a few more questions now.
^^ yes!! Add on the dead lords from the Parliament in Bath and Ciel mentioning chaos at Westminster while also asking Seb to warn the Double Charles about it and you’ve got the perfect blend…
This is just in case we actually start to get to the bottom of this arc in this month’s upcoming chapter. Here’s a list starting with ch108, but feel free to add in case you think I possibly forgot something!
Last update: 12/12
Ch108: what is that weird liquid that UT gave to the twin and why did he say “it’s still too early for you to wake up”?
About Bravat himself: is he a charlatan, or is he a scientist maybe?
He’s human and didn’t use to be a good deviner (ch143)
Also did he really see through Seb’s disguise or was this all pretending too?
He confirmed that he sensed Seb was different at first glance! (ch145)
ch112: how many times did Lizzie give some of her blood to Lord Canopus?
ch113: what did Lizzie mean when she was crying about “not being able to save the twin”? Save him from who or what?
it was most likely about not having the same blood type ‘cause they don’t know about universal recipients (ch144)
ch114/119: about blood transfusions => who mastered the procedure? Does it serve a purpose outside the 4 or 5 star lords (like war, as Wolfram pointed out)? How does it play into making more “perfect” bizarre dolls?
Is it why real!Ciel “grew up” despite dying 4 years ago?
How come no one knows that AB (sirius) is the universal recipient type?
ch114: Othello and “50 years ago” => is this old case relevant to the current arc somehow? Or is it just related to UT’s desertion?
Othello and UT know each other = confirmed (ch142)
ch115: about the twin’s damaged arms that we can see => is it because he’s dependent on blood transfusions?
ch116: is there a reason Nina was chosen by the sect to make all the outfits? Could it be because “the Hopkins tailors have outfitted generations of the Phantomhive family” (and “it’s all for the blue star” who’s the twin)?
ch117: why are the rooms for the 4 or 5 star lords so different? Is it supposed to remind them of their previous environment/social condition when they were still alive?
ch119: Any chance that us finding out about Wolfram having the B blood type (same as Lizzie) will be relevant later? To transfuse Lizzie maybe?
still ch119: was Othello speaking about UT when he said “that one didn’t know much about this stuff… who else is there?”? If so, then can another supernatural being be involved with the sect?
ch123: we found out that Lord Sirius is real!Ciel, but what about the other star lords’ identity? Are they possibly characters we already met (and who died)?
ch124: how/when did Bravat/the blue sect came to know and dialyze those old lords from the Parliament?
About the blue sect: any possible link to the Aurora society or even the mysterious Osiris company?
Also if UT is really the only mastermind behind this, then why the change of method between the Weston arc and now, when he called Agares a masterpiece?
ch125: what’s the point of making a second music hall in Bath? Or is it just a false lead, because it was just the place where Bravat would dialyze the old lords?
ch126: was the twin wearing an eyepatch when he came to attack Agni and Soma? If no, did Soma just fail to notice the difference with our!Ciel?
ch127: who killed Agni? Is it Polaris, the “blue star’s butler”, or is it someone else? Also is he human or a supernatural being, since Agni commented that his killer was really strong?
ch128: what was the purpose of the attack on Soma and Agni? Leaving our!Ciel a message (”who stole the candy from my tummy”)? Or simply the twin being jealous (since Soma does call himself Ciel’s “big brother”)? Something else related to the curry arc maybe, since Ciel made sure Scotland Yard wouldn’t get to Agni?
ch129: Did Ciel leave the pieces of the photo with Soma when they took him to Sieglinde? Will Sieglinde manage to convince Soma that our!Ciel is not the one who attacked him (since he’s the one who brought Soma + especially since she saw our!Ciel has the contract’s seal in his right eye)?
ch129: between the dead lords from the Parliament in ch125 and Violet probably giving the name “Ciel Phantomhive” for the blue star’s identity to Scotland Yard, will our!Ciel get in big troubles and accused of all that Bravat did in this arc?
Yes, he was for a good part of it (ch143)
where are the Double Charles?
ch129: since the servants initially thought the twin was our!Ciel, did they not notice the possible absence of Sebastian by his side? Or do we have a doppelgänger for Seb too?
ch130: how comes Tanaka didn’t appear very surprised about the twin’s return? Could he have known in advance? But if so, who told him and why? (additional question: was it foreshadowed in ch120?)
Also, how and when did Tanaka find out about our!Ciel taking his brother’s identity? Could this be related to him knowing the twin was coming back?
Personally, I just think Violet drawing Jabberwocky was in relation to the subplot of the Weston arc. Ciel was asking about Derrick, but without knowing who Ciel was back then, Violet probably thought that Ciel was getting into something very dangerous, considering what happened to Derrick and what the prefects had to do afterwards to clean the mess.
It was just Violet’s own way of indicating that if Ciel, whom he saw as an innocent young student, were to discover what happened to Derrick, the dark secrets would be too much to handle for him (considering that Derrick was killed and then became a bizzare doll).
Violet doesn’t know about Seb or the contract so really, I doubt it has anything to do with the main plot of Kuroshitsuji. :3 It’s definitely true, however, that Alice kills Jabberwocky in Lewis Carrol’s story and Elizabeth was indeed partially modeled after Alice Liddel according to Yana (in term of design, not characterization).
When Ciel and Sebastian go into the half finished music hall in Bath, they find the old men have died, but Violet is still alive. He’s strapped to a chair, but he is alive and is even able to explain his plan a bit along with passing along the information that Bravat had gone back to London. Of course, this was all very important to the plot, but there is one question I still have.
Did Bravat purposely leave Violet alive?
I know Violet might still be alive could all be because he needed to give this information to Ciel, so it might not be any deeper than that, but I can’t help but question. First off, when Violet is discovered, he is trapped in the chair, but it doesn’t appear as if there are any I.V.’s or tubes taking his blood.
You can see is bruised arm and veins, but there’s no I.V. there.
The other men died when their blood was drained very quickly.
According to my now very creepy google search history, blood can be drained from the body rather quickly if it is vacuumed. These men would have most likely died within minutes.
So, perhaps Violet was specifically placed in the room in his weakened state, but he was specifically not killed for some reason.
It was confirmed that Violet’s blood was taken though, because he collapsed soon after Ciel & Seb found him, so I agree with you that, while Bravat didn’t take all his blood and killed him like the other lords (maybe because he had finally the sufficient amount?), there is a high chance he might have been left there on purpose.
As for why, it’s always back to the same thing…
Bravat was not alone from the very beginning, he’s backed up by someone who might or not be UT and who most likely also gave him the info he had on Lizzie, Ciel and Seb.
The whole arc was apparently built up on people betting on their plans working:
Lizzie meeting Bravat was more luck than an actual trap since apparently Violet is the one who’s responsible for Edward visiting the Sphere music hall
Violet was hoping Ciel would be on the case, and thanks to the Queen it happened
Bravat had these info about Ciel and Seb, most likely because the mastermind was expecting them to show up, because the Queen would at some point give the case to Ciel
Bravat didn’t seem that worried to have Scotland Yard stopping his work when Ciel “won”, even if he didn’t expect Ciel to build his ownmusic hall
TL;DR it’s possible that Bravat and/or the guy with him bet that Ciel would find the rest of the S4 or that the S4 would contact Ciel, so that he would come to Bath. And in case Ciel didn’t come, well, Violet would have died and end of the story.
That’s probably why Othello said:
If Ciel hadn’t decided to go after Bravat and found the S4 (because he wanted to find Lizzie and Bravat), then Violet would have died.
That’s one more reason making me think the mastermind is UT at this point, because he’s the only one who would be able to bet so accurately on what Ciel would do.
Am I the only one who thinks that Violet’s reaction to Ciel was somehow odd? Like “OMG, him??” *scared* and then “Uuuh, it’s only Phantomhive” *relieved*. It’s true that he was near dead, but he was genuinely terrified here. Also Ciel’s reaction was interesting (like “… Who should I be?”). I don’t know, but here 2CT feels are strong.
Sebastian was leaning right over him on his left side, which is where Violet was looking.
Whether Violet can see Sebastian’s demonic self or sense his evil aura or something similar to Bravat many chapters back it’s difficult to say. If I woke up and saw somebody that close to me after what was probably a traumatic/frightening experience prior to passing out, I’d react with shock too.
Could he see Sebastian as the ‘Jabberwocky’ that he sketched stalking the earl way back in the Weston Arc?
He also seemed calmed when he recognised Ciel, so againI’m quick to place the blame for Violet’s reaction on Sebastian
Hello Anon and… I can but… read it at your own risk because /! slightly salty soup of feelings ahead /! okay? Sorry in advance for the slightly annoyed tone sometimes. ;_;
So, about the beginning of the chapter:
I already talked about this panel here and here and I don’t have anything else to add for the moment. As for this panel…
(bye bye characters, see you maybe in another arc)
@erebus-cheslock did a great summary of my thoughts here and I’m, like, completely jaded about how convenient it is.
Next about Ciel’s investigation:
Personally it’s not something I was surprised about, but I have to admit it felt good to have something at least a little logical in this chapter. And about this…
Well, lmao, besides the fact that Soma is ten times less blind and naive than they are, this part was also nothing new for me.
Also about Bravat killing the old Lords, nothing new yet again but from the moment he was already collecting people’s blood to the point of killing them before this chapter, I really am sure it wasn’t supposed to be a big reveal to anyone.
Next, about Violet’s plan………… ( -_-’)
Besides the fact that I completely share @akumadeenglish‘s feelings about this being an utterly stupid and senseless plan, I also am searching for the entire subplot’s logic ‘cause…
1)
Greenhill is the one who invited Ed
but yeah, I mean, okay, maybe Violet gave him the idea, that would wor–
3) – So if Violet is the reason behind Ed coming to the Sphere music hall…
– And Ed is the one who brought Lizzie because he had a good time which is how she met Bravat……
=> Then somehow that means that the mastermind behind Bravat’s actions had planned that Violet would plan to invite Edward and also that themastermind bet the whole success of his plan to bring Lizzie into the Sphere music hall on the initial hypothesis that Violet would convince Greenhill to invite Edward (who then would need to have a good time in order to bring Lizzie with him, which would allow her to meet Bravat, leading to her running away from home 3 weeks later).
Inception
And I’m sorry but… what? So really, I have no idea what the hell is going on with the current subplot. ¯_(ツ)_/¯
I mean, let’s say that the mastermind is UT, well, I love him and he’s a good judge of characters, but to say that he could see through Violet that much is going way too far into Nonsensical road lane.
4) Violet’s plan sucked anyway since it’s the Queen who ended up introducing Ciel to the Sphere music hall.
Finally about the Shinigamis…
This part kinda saved the chapter to be honest and Othello was funny.
The mystery remains full about who really is behind Bravat’s blue sect getting such knowledge though…
Because Othello gave again the example of a demon…
But I still think it’s not crazy to imagine that UT could be behind all this so… For now, nothing changes about this part of the subplot.
Lastly about this little scene…
I saw many theories already about how Othello could have known Claudia/Vincent/the twin etc. but… here’s the thing:
Othello hasn’t been in the human world for 50 years and I’m not sure he sees any humans at all when he’s not in the human world since Shinigamis like Grell only collect souls (and I’m also not sure Othello gets anywhere near those souls).
50 years ago Vincent and the possible twin weren’t born and Claudia was 9 years old, so let’s say Othello met with Claudia 50 years ago, that means he would have somehow remembered her face until now? Why not but… still seemingly a bit far-fetched to me (but at this point, maybe Yana doesn’t care anymore about making sense).
So, Vincent and Claudia aside, logically it could be interesting to consider that there is one other link between Othello and Ciel, because Othello is a Shinigami that hasn’t been in the human world for 50 years and… that person is the Undertaker (because he was a Shinigami as well before deserting 50 years ago).
So… maybe this scene could be a hint to the grandpa!UT theory, but then again that would mean that we’re supposed to consider that Ciel looks like Vincent who looked like UT and… not only is it still far-fetched but I know that not everyone agree on this.
TL;DR ¯_(ツ)_/¯
These are all my thoughts so far in exclusivity for you Anon, keep in mind that they can still change as always.
midnight-in-town 