Am I the only one thinking that whenever Seb says something like that, it’s because he’s aware that Tanaka’s physical condition isn’t the best ever since 4 years ago? So basically he’s never asking Tanaka anything because Tanaka needs to conserve his strength for when it could be necessary?
I mean, there is no doubt that Tanaka is freakishly strong and skilled, but I can’t help but think that it was even more the case before 4 years ago. After all, he received at least two injuries back then (one to his right side, one deep in the back), he possibly was caught in the fire that destroyed the manor too and when Ciel sees him again, he’s…
in a wheelchair and we know he doesn’t come back to the manor until after the ceremony making Ciel the official Earl Phantomhive in mid-March 1886 (which means that he needed a real recovery).
So while we still don’t know how he survived through the attack of December 14th
when no one else did
or how he got to the hospital in time, the fact he’s still capable of…
…being an absolute badass after everything that happened to him makes me think it’s only possible because he doesn’t do anything the rest of the time.
@artsy-jandi Ah, I just knew someone would say this. xD
Thanks for your input and, to be fair, I know it appears to be one possibility, however for me it doesn’t work, at least if Sensei intends to make this as realistic as possible. :3 This is what Ann saw:
And technically if Tanaka was still inside back then, he would have had 0 way to make it out alive by himself.
To explain extremely simply: fire leads to carbon monoxide as well as hydrogen cyanide being present in the air and as a result it becomes impossible to breathe or even move, which is how people die when trapped in a fire.
I can’t stress this enough, it is really a matter of minutes. Carbon monoxide binds to hemoglobin (what transports oxygen throughout the body) as well as myoglobin (similar but specific of the muscles, which is how they can move) instead of oxygen, making it impossible for the person to breathe/run away.
So that’s why Tanaka would have had no way to escape this on his own, even more so considering how he was also physically injured. And even if Ann had run inside, she would have found herself incapable of breathing/being able to run away pretty quickly, which means she would have died too.
Firemen nowadays have these extremely useful gasmasks as well as oxygen at their disposal, which is how they make it through, but this was the case of neither Tanaka nor Ann here.
But hey, obviously Sensei doesn’t have to know/respect these facts since it’s fiction. So let’s say thata very wounded Tanaka
miraculously
managed to espape the burning manor, there is also the question of whether or not Ann’s carriage would have been fast enough to take him to London’s royal hospital in time (since that’s where he was in ch62) to save his life.
Remember that Tanaka was stabbed at least twice from what we’ve seen (I am not even sure he was in any shape to move tbh), so if he somehow managed to escape the burning house by idk what miracle, it would have still proved difficult for Ann to make it in time to any hospital (especially since she would have probably also wanted to make sure about the rest of the family).
That’s why personally I don’t find the idea that Ann is the one who saved/helped Tanaka to be the most logical, sorry. :3 If Yana intends to make this as realistic as possible, then the only possibility for Tanaka’s survival (especially if he was caught in the fire) is that someone supernatural was in time to rescue and take him to the hospital. That’s just my opinion though. 🙂
I was reading the newest Berserk chapter on Mangastream (and omg, I know it’s not the chapter anyone expected but the art, people, I just love Miura-sensei) and at the beginning you can see this:
For some reasons, personally it really reminded me of…
the circumstances of Guts’ birth?
As I said though, it’s probably unrelated, since the reason those monsters appeared is because the astral and real worlds fused when Griffith defeated Ganishka + I doubt it’s necessary to learn anything about Guts’ biological parents or region he was born in anyway…
I found this chapter super interesting when it comes to emphasizing even more than it already was the case on the differences between Griffith’s true nature and the little act of “the Falcon of light” he’s throwing to everyone’s face. Very confusing already for a big part of the fandom, so kudos to Miura for almost making us believe that Griffith as Femto has the best interests of humankind at heart. xDD
Am I the only one thinking that whenever Seb says something like that, it’s because he’s aware that Tanaka’s physical condition isn’t the best ever since 4 years ago? So basically he’s never asking Tanaka anything because Tanaka needs to conserve his strength for when it could be necessary?
I mean, there is no doubt that Tanaka is freakishly strong and skilled, but I can’t help but think that it was even more the case before 4 years ago. After all, he received at least two injuries back then (one to his right side, one deep in the back), he possibly was caught in the fire that destroyed the manor too and when Ciel sees him again, he’s…
in a wheelchair and we know he doesn’t come back to the manor until after the ceremony making Ciel the official Earl Phantomhive in mid-March 1886 (which means that he needed a real recovery).
So while we still don’t know how he survived through the attack of December 14th
when no one else did
or how he got to the hospital in time, the fact he’s still capable of…
…being an absolute badass after everything that happened to him makes me think it’s only possible because he doesn’t do anything the rest of the time.
Touka made the decision believing it would be the only option for the fetus to be able to obtain the necessary nutrients. This decision was based on her conversation with Kaneki, in which he revealed that Ukina ate human flesh so that she would be able to survive.
Touka knowing this worked took the same decision changing it for human food instead.
This may have no logic (for now) or not work, but she is still risking herself because is the only thing she can do.
Have a nice day and thanks for the ask!
i hope you don’t mind me jumping in because i have A LOT of salt over how people just keep asking this question over and over again to many different blogs i follow
the point of the scene isn’t the logic behind touka’s action at all. it might or might not have any. the point of this scene basically just touka trying her best to give her child a chance to survive. touka has lost so much she doesn’t want another one of her family to die. she thinks of herself as a monster so much she’s terrified she might kill her own child. so she wants to do whatever she can to protect her baby. she doesn’t know what she can do, the only other person she knows who’s ever been in that situation was yoshimura and ukina. the fact that baby lived is the only hope touka has that her child would as well and so to keep her child safe, she tries the only method she has at hand at that very moment. it’s exactly as you say, it’s the only thing she can do.
tbh, it’s not that hard to notice this if the fandom realises that touka is a character and not some mere plot device. her very motivations and development is reason enough for ishida writing this scene out. even if it doesn’t help the baby at all, the point is not whether it does, it’s simply touka wanting to save her child. that’s it. it’s not that hard to grasp.
i’m so sorry for jumping in like that vero, but i’ve seen this question being asked to quite a bit of mutuals and blogs, as well as seeing it float around tumblr as posts. just wanted to add on to what you said. i completely agree with you of course!
Don’t worry! I really liked how you explained Touka’s motivations and feelings at the moment. Thank you very much for the addition!
I always think back to these panels, especially the saddened Itori dialogue to Kaneki from part 1. There has literally been no ghoul mother and human father success for hybrids at all from what we know sadly. The chances of a miracle are virtually slim to non existent as compared to the slightly better chances of a human mother and ghoul father (even referring to half humans who are deemed as failures due to their rapid aging and short life spans). Ukina and Kuzen produced a “miracle” that was as Eto, as the only known true natural half ghoul hybrid from the sheer will and determination of the human mother devouring the human flesh that the baby would need.
The case of Touka is even more extreme given the nature of her body automatically absorbing the foetus for nutrients under a normal regime. And like you all have mentioned, Touka gathered the only information made available to her by listening to Kaneki’s explanation on hybrids via old man Yoshimura and Ukina with Eto but in reverse. Add that with the already established notion of her being used to eating human food due to her father Arata’s human like upbringing and her friendship with her human best friend Yoriko.
Its been stated and shown time and time again how human food severely weakens and damages the body of a ghoul, and yet she is still willing to do ANYTHING to ensure that even the slightest of chances are made in order to give her child what it needs to survive. It may not even be the correct one, but this is all she can do, she can only hope that by weakening her body, by undergoing more pain as a ghoul via eating human food that her child can survive.
It’s one of the MANY true testaments of strength that Touka possesses as a character and aspiring mother. All the odds are stacked against her and their child; and yet despite it all, she tries and tries, even if its pointless by normal standards/possibilities and occurrences. For that is what hope is. No longer can she just live while losing things, for that is what she’s chosen, if it means painfully sacrificing her own well being.
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