And the official arts by Sensei are just one of the reasons. Initially he had the possibility to be…
either OEG preceding Eto in the timeline. After his birthday art of this year and the recent chapters though, I’m now more tempted to say he’s the second OEG of the timeline, the one who almost annihilated the CCG and who was defeated at the time by the newly-created V organization.
Here’s the general recap post of all my theories on the subject, though some old points might be slightly outdated. I’d advise you to also read this theory by @donatoporpora because it has some good points and interesting observations!
I hope it answers your question, have a nice day Anon!
Hi Anon, and awww thank you very much for reading and for the nice words! ❤
Did you mean this?
It’s too bad I never stumbled on such a post
(if anyone knows who gets the credit for this, please feel free to tell me)
because it’s a very interesting observation and I hadn’t noticed at all! So thanks a lot for pointing it out, because maybe it’s yet another hint indeed, especially considering this post by @eto-when-and-where. :))
That being said, the latest problem with the Uta = Nagaraj theory is what was said about his kakuja not disappearing/turning into stone down into the 24th ward, implying that the OEG who released such a massive kakuja is still trapped inside it.
That’s why recently I was rather considering the idea that Uta was the second OEG of the timeline, the one who almost annihilated the CCG and was defeated by V, even if nothing is sure at this point.
There is definitely something up with Uta and “eyes” though, which relates back to how the Nagaraj was apparently defeated… I mean, there is what you pointed out, the holes in his kakuja during the Clowns’ arc as @eto-when-and-where noticed and all the times he was associated with eyeballs…
…In other words, Sensei is definitely trying to confuse us with the different possibilities xDD To sum up all the different ideas for now:
Uta is the One Eyed Washuu/Nagaraj but it means that Kimi and the kids are wrong about what the remains of the huge kakuja down in the 24th ward imply
I guess this is something we’ll know for sure once we see what happens to Dragoneki when Kaneki is released from his kakuja.
Again, the general recap post of all my theories about Uta as a OEG is here, but I’m sorry that all the possibilities have to be so approximate for now. We’re surely getting closer to the truth, I just think Sensei is really enjoying giving us so many different hints in the meantime. xD
Thanks a lot for sharing this great observation, Anon and also thanks again for the very nice words! ^3^ Please have a nice day :))
My copy of vol.26 hasn’t arrived yet but I heard from other people who already bought it that Agni’s death date Grell read aloud in chapter128 has been corrected in the newly released comicbook:
Chapter128 (magazine version)
This date puzzled a lot of readers back when the chapter was released because if it weren’t an error, it would mean that OC and Sebastian stayed in Bath for almost 2 weeks even though they had nothing to investigate there lol, but apparently, this date was indeed a small error on Yana’s part. It got fixed now and the correct date of Agni’s death as well as RC’s returnis
15 November 1889
i.e. it’s the same day Ciel and Sebastian went to Bath, found Violet as well as the bodies of the patrons of the Blue Sect and met Grell and Othello:
So when Grell said
“We’ll be seeing each other real soon, you can count on it.”
to Sebastian in chapter 125, Grell really meant “real soon” – as in “in a few hours”.
And the official arts by Sensei are just one of the reasons. Initially he had the possibility to be…
either OEG preceding Eto in the timeline. After his birthday art of this year and the recent chapters though, I’m now more tempted to say he’s the second OEG of the timeline, the one who almost annihilated the CCG and who was defeated at the time by the newly-created V organization.
Here’s the general recap post of all my theories on the subject, though some old points might be slightly outdated. I’d advise you to also read this theory by @donatoporpora because it has some good points and interesting observations!
I hope it answers your question, have a nice day Anon!
Hey Anon! Well, I don’t know exactly in what order the dark stuff we have left will be coming but here is what we can be expecting for January and maybe February, if one chapter is not enough to cover it all…
And afterwards we’ll get another chapter focusing on…
As you can see and as I told someone yesterday, literally most of what will be shown during the flashback of that one month is nothing “new”.
It’s just Yana is now drawing in full details what she spent years foreshadowing. We had hints that they were raped (ch135 :/), hit, starved, branded. We know that real!Ciel will end up stabbed and that our!Ciel will go as far as to open his stomach to get the ring back. And we know that’s when the contract happens.
Nothing will be really new and Yana probably told us all of this in advance so that we could prepare ourselves for when she’d draw it.
I hope that’s what you wanted to know? Have a nice day Anon. 🙂
Hi Anon! Don’t worry, I completely understand the need to prepare yourself, the latest chapter was horrifying enough. :3
To be honest though, I certainly can’t say if what happened at the end of ch135 happened more than once or not. It’s likely that it did, however I don’t think Yana is going to show us a similar scene again because there would be no narrative interest in that.
However, in the post above, you have all the other parts that previous flashbacks highlighted about the twins’ time with the cult and that we haven’t seen yet. These have the potential to be highly uncomfortable too, and it’s pretty sure that Yana is going to draw these moments again since we’re following our!Ciel’s memories, so watch out for yourself.
Next month’s chapter will probably be full of the twins suffering again and it will be for more than just a few pages this time. These chapters will be hard to read through until we get back to present time, either by the end of March’s chapter or in April’s chapter, or so I think for now.
I hope it helps? Or that at least you are warned now? Please take care Anon and have a nice day!
Well, I’m a believer of the UT grandpa theory (even if I won’t mind either way whether it turns out to be true or wrong) and I think I see your point?
Basically, you’re saying that Yana wanting to draw something involving the twins as children and UT possibly reading one of them a story implies that there is a meaningful link between UT and the children in the first place? As in, possibly a familial one?
It’s true that UT acts so much the part of a creeper that it is strange to even want to represent him in this sort of situation, so I see your point when you say that it might be a hint towards the UT = Cedric K. Ros theory.
At the same time, as I was explaining here, no matter if the Cedric theory is true or not, we already know that he has a meaningful link to the P family, probably because of Claudia, so Yana could have simply wanted to imply that UT liked to be around the P family for this reason too.
I like your reasoning though, so I’ll keep it in mind :)) especially since…
…it looks like the twins liked to have someone reading to them.
In the end, the problem remains the same as always with the UT = Cedric K. Ros theory. I like it because it’s originally something I wrote after ch103 lmao it gives UT a name, but I can totally understand people questioning if it’s even possible for Shinigamis to reproduce.
Thanks for sharing Anon, I’ll definitely keep it in mind!
Have a nice day! ^_^
I mean, SAME Anon! 😀 Well, it’s not the only reason I like the Cedric = UT theory though, but I’m totally yearning for some canon interactions between them, even if we have no certainty it will ever happen.
I also don’t particularly like the anime, but…
This is the only part in the whole anime I’m ready to call canon. Lizzie, honey though, please drop the orange color.
Besides, even if they’re not blood-related, them interacting would still be amazing because
I’m pretty sure that since Lizzie is like Frances, it means she’s also like Claudia. To quote Vincent: “our family line has rather strong-willed women”. xD
Anyway, I’m totally looking forward to any canon interactions between them and I can totally see him having such a soft spot for her!
Thanks for passing by Anon and have a nice day. :))
After all, there is no way ch125, which happened just after they had such a long meaningful talk in ch122, was going to be their only time. xD Also, just seeing them getting married twice in ch131 and ch132 and how moved they both were, you can be sure that there were intense moments after what we witnessed. It’s not the first time that always matters.
In other words, Kaneki and Touka did the do plenty of times and not just on ch125 and that conception date after March 23th xDDD
Lol, have a nice day Anon, I’m glad if my previous post helped with some people’s doubts. xDD
Well, I’m a believer of the UT grandpa theory (even if I won’t mind either way whether it turns out to be true or wrong) and I think I see your point?
Basically, you’re saying that Yana wanting to draw something involving the twins as children and UT possibly reading one of them a story implies that there is a meaningful link between UT and the children in the first place? As in, possibly a familial one?
It’s true that UT acts so much the part of a creeper that it is strange to even want to represent him in this sort of situation, so I see your point when you say that it might be a hint towards the UT = Cedric K. Ros theory.
At the same time, as I was explaining here, no matter if the Cedric theory is true or not, we already know that he has a meaningful link to the P family, probably because of Claudia, so Yana could have simply wanted to imply that UT liked to be around the P family for this reason too.
I like your reasoning though, so I’ll keep it in mind :)) especially since…
…it looks like the twins liked to have someone reading to them.
In the end, the problem remains the same as always with the UT = Cedric K. Ros theory. I like it because it’s originally something I wrote after ch103 lmao it gives UT a name, but I can totally understand people questioning if it’s even possible for Shinigamis to reproduce.
Hi Anon! Conclusion before the explanation but basically no, I don’t think that ch125 was the time Touka became pregnant. xD
Here’s the thing, the Clowns’ arc took place on February 9th:
and then approximately a month passed until ch122 happened, which is when Kaneki and Touka talked but also when they had to go into hiding because of the Oggai. They decided…
to all meet again, probably to depart to the 24th ward, on March 13th. So ch125, which happened on the same evening as ch122, happened before March 13th.
Now, considering Touka’s delivery date by her own calculations…
and the fact that at the time of ch130 we were in mid-April, you can do the maths and you’ll see that Touka is in her first month of pregnancy, which makes the baby’s conception date during the las days of March/first week of April (unless a ghoul pregnancy doesn’t last 9 months of course).