Hi Anon and yeah, don’t worry, you’re not the only one. x)
However, I have to admit that my current thoughts on the subject mostly stop at “we’re probably going to see the faces Ciel’s grandparents on the Phantomhive side at some point”, so whether it is going to be a picture, a flashback or someone’s cinematic record, I guess it’s up to Yana.
The Phantomhive siblings, Vincent and Frances, share the same concept as the Midfords siblings, Edward and Lizzie, i.e. I draw them with the typical image of “girls take after their father, boys after their mother” in mind. So maybe Ciel’s grandfather looks like Edward 🙂 -Toboso
…it must mean that there is a reason she’s got a pretty good idea in mind as to what Claudia and Cedric looked like, probably because she’s going to draw them in canon at some point. :))
Hi Anon, I’m good, thanks! About your question, personally, I just took it as general gratitude since Ciel intervened for the sake of Irene’s dignity while Seb saved them both from getting a bottle smashed in their face, so…
…she meant to thank them both, but it’s not like Seb cares about human gratitude in the first place. 🙂
Besides, she was in a relationship with Grimsby back then, so I don’t think she fell in love at first sight with Seb or anything, but you’re free to ship them if that’s the vibe you got (@dorkshadows and one mod of @cielizzydefencesquad like them together too, if I remember correctly).
To answer your second question, without spoiling much: yes, Irene makes a cameo twice after the Murders at Manor arc, but it’s really brief and not particularly anything plot-relevant.
I hope I managed to help Anon, please enjoy the Kuro ride and be careful going around my blog if you haven’t entirely caught up yet, okay? 🙂
Thank you for passing by and have a nice day as well! :33
EDIT: Anon, mod Nina from @cielizzydefencesquad added to my post and gave you a few fanfiction titles for SebIrene if you’re interested. You can check them here.
I might be somewhat unaffected by the crack ship, but I can confirm that both mods from @cielizzydefencesquad are very talented writers so I can guarantee you won’t be wasting your time and I hope you’ll see this!
me this morning: “don’t talk to me about Kuroshitsuji because the new TG chapter is out and it’s full of Kaneki going into another self journey in his mind so i want to spend my day rambling about it even though i have to study”
me right now: “don’t talk to me about about TG and Kaneki’s meta self journey because Yana sensei just did a sketch of the twO MOST BEAUTIFUL LADIES OF KUROSHITSUJI AND I WILL SPEND THE REST OF MY EVENING YELLING ABOUT IT”
But more than 5, it’s actually more 12 or 15 hours, amirite Anon?
Anyway, it’s a beautiful sketch and I’m still in awe and full of gratitude. It totally made my day which was already good thanks to the very interesting TG chapter!
As a result, I feel very motivated today 😀 and I wish the same for you Anon!
Remember when Ishida said he had a dream where a girl called Kaneki’s name while he seemed to be lost and that was how Touka was born? Yah, that’s the perfect time for him to put his dream in practice
The difference between these scenes makes me so emotional
The first time, he was so ready for it all to end, to give up and let himself drown in the water like Osamu Dazai. But now, seeing him struggling so desperately against it to return to the world of the living….
When he said “I have to go back!” my heart swelled up 😭
I don’t know if anyone has mentioned it yet but the place that Kaneki has created in his mind is actually a real place called Itsukushima Shrine
And what’s really cool about him choosing this place for his purgatory is kind of the symbolism of it. This is because this is a place that is considered so pure that death and birth is not allowed to come near it. That and bodies are not allowed to be buried anywhere near it. Which Kaneki kind of defiled as he himself is dying and he has killed many. It’s kind of oddly beautiful that he chooses a shrine which is supposed to be a pure place, much like he saw himself and how he never tried to hurt humans. But as he goes under the surface its overcome with death, much like how under the surface he has become a murder
how many people have shed blood? How many people have suffocated within the sea?
Rize’s appearance and the imagery of a sea of corpses is actually a direct reference and was foreshadowed by a poem attached to this artwork published in 10/26/2016 over a year ago. The poem is translated here by Michi if you want to read it. [x].
Some of the events in this poem have pretty exact parallels to what happened in canon either around this, precluding this, or paralleling this scene even so I’ll be going over that too.
which they took in response to Yana’s tweet about the Midfords:
If you look at the actual wigs that were created [for the musical], you can clearly see that Frances and Lizzy have matching bangs and that’s so cute!^^ For Lizzy, her mother is strict, but also the woman she looks up to, that’s why she imitates her mother’s hair style a bit. (I think I once wrote about this in the Character Guide). – Toboso
YES EXACTLY ANON! I mean, first of all thank you so much for the nice words, you’re adorable kajebkjbe ❤ but yes, I hope that “Rize” will make him realize all of this soon, because…
the term “murderer” indeed could have been used a while ago already to define him, since he used to kill ghouls and even eat them.
I mean, in this manga everyone (except for Yoriko) did morally reprehensive stuff, so it’s not that Kaneki has to take it harder upon himself or that he’s worse than other characters, but all in all, it’s as @randomthoughtpatterns explained here: so far apparently, only humans are “people” for Kaneki, he doesn’t see ghouls as their equal, which is why he never used to see himself as a murderer, that is until he started killing humans in ch144.
So I really hope “Rize” will call him out on this big hypocrisy of his (or maybe it will be for a later character development and he’ll hate himself for killing humans first until he realizes it’s way too hypocritical?), because it’s highly passed the time for Kaneki to start considering humans and ghouls as equal, especially since he is in love with a ghoul + he’s supposed to help bringing coexistence.
The biggest irony of it all is that, on this aspect just like on many others, he and Touka are a set too, since even as a ghoul Touka has the mentality that her species is worth less than humankind:
And Dragoneki’s rampage is definitely not helping this mentality…
So, whether this important realization is for next week or slightly later, I hope one day Kaneki & Touka (as well as Amon and a few others) will understand that…
…this world only has a future if they stop lying to themselves about one species being better than another (which is overall illustrated by Touka expecting their hybrid baby in a world that currently holds no chance of a happy future for it).
So I love that there is a strong connotation behind “Rize” calling Kaneki by a term that defines him but that no one ever used to refer to him before…
and I’m hoping that this will be because he realized he’s been a murderer for a while now, since he had no mercy for ghouls either at some earlier point in the story.
But yeah, we’ll see next week. Thank you again so much for the nice words Anon ❤ Wishing you a lovely day!
yeS VERY GOOD ANON A+ REALIZATION!
I mean, I love Kaneki & Touka and I love that they’re in love with each other, but my babies, at some point you gotta face the irony and hypocrisy on which your relationship and hope for the future currently rest.
I actually do not think that Kaneki & Touka hate the ghoul species or anything but…
they were respectively Goat’s first and second leader and they are a set there too, in the fact that neither cared about what Goat was supposed to be fighting for. And yet, as you pointed out, since they both started to grow closer to each other because of this moment…
it’s not like we are not already sure that they will get there eventually.
It’s even more certain since, again, Touka is pregnant with their hybrid baby and the world as it currently is holds no place for it. So it’s always been my belief that both of them would need to realize that they should start considering truly fighting for coexistence and equality between humankind and ghoulkind, since their baby’s future is at stake in this situation too.
Before they get there though, Kaneki has to realize that he didn’t just become a murderer and Touka has to find a way to confront all that she has to confront (her dad, Yoriko…), before she can move on from the idea that it’s natural for ghouls to matter less than humans.
The thing is, we know it’s coming, we know it could happen next week for Kaneki, since Rize is the first ghoul he “killed”…
so it’s making me very excited while still being slightly afraid that Sensei will delay it for a little while longer, because he will want Kaneki and Touka to come to this realization together at the same time (and I don’t mind either way, but… #character development is sooooo interesting).
Thanks for your sharing thoughts Anon! Have a nice day :))
Hi Anon! Actually I’m not sure there is a need to try and justify Kaneki’s current bias towards ghouls, I mean…
he was a human who barely thought ghouls existed until he was a college student
then Kanou, Rize and Furuta happened but TG part 1 barely lasted a year
finally he became Sasaki Haise, a ghoul investigator for something like three years before he remembered all of TG part 1
So in the end, it’s not so surprising that he has trouble fully realizing that humans and ghouls are on the same level. In fact, ironically enough, it’s something that he tackled rather well from early on in TG…
since he even went as far as to take a bite of Amon to win against him and help Touka & Hina. So when Kaneki told Touka that he would be sad should she die, it was during a time he walked on a good path,
but then Aogiri happened and well, it fucked him up.
Anon above is right, Kaneki and Touka are in love with each other right now because Kaneki saw Touka’s life as valuable back then, not because she was a ghoul or a human, but because he got close to her as a person, which is why his romantic feelings for her currently don’t particularly encompass her nature of ghoul but just who she is as a living person.
That’s also why everything is currently so ironic: if Aogiri hadn’t happened, maybe Kaneki would have realized way earlier that ghouls and humans were to be seen as equal and would have had way less trouble taking on the role of the OEK, but hey, Sensei wanted TG to be tragic which is why we are where we are in :Re.
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