I mean, there isn’t a lot of differences between ch112 and ch156 narratively speaking, which is something I’m hoping will change before long. Mutsuki is the only one who benefited from what happened (Aura maybe too, we will have to see), which is natural, considering that they were the one who needed help the most in the first place, but I wouldn’t say that what happened will help Urie and Saiko to change.
It’s necessary that they do, if just because Mutsuki will need to be confronted about their actions (like Kaneki will be maybe tomorrow), something neither Urie and Saiko did in ch156, which again is natural since Mutsuki wanted to die. So at the time, it was more important to reassure Mutsuki that they still had a place alongside Saiko and Urie, rather than address the subjects Mutsuki was so scared to face.
Confronting Mutsuki might lead to Urie and Saiko developing. Hopefully. So we’ll have to see. xD
I’ll let you read this post if you don’t mind, it should expand a little on the subject. 🙂
Thanks again for the nice words Anon! :3 Have a nice day :))
even if I’m sure Yana forgot to draw them sometimes (ch131 for example). Personal opinion but I think it’s either a familial aesthetic or a Watchdog thing:
Except that for the twins it’s probably also/mostly a way to hide a part of what happened to them 4 years ago:
I doubt the meaning of these earrings goes further than that though, since we hardly ever addressed the topic of those, unlike the ring for example. That’s why I’d rather go for a familial aesthetic as the possible explanation. :))
I hope it answers your question, have a nice day Anon!
Aww, I really take it as a big compliment whenever someone says they might start a series because of my blog, so thank you, Anon! ❤
I know it appears to be huge, I know it has explicit violence everywhere, but it is really one of the most amazing series I have ever read, for all its good points.
Let me know if you need any… advice or motivation though. I know for a fact that the first arc (the first three volumes) is used to introduce the tone of the series as well as the Guts/Puck dynamic, so it is really dark and Guts can really be seen as the worst asshole ever, but it gets different with vol4. :))
Anyway, I know what it is not to have time to start new series ;_; so all the best to you and here’s to hoping you’ll get to read it one day! 😀
Take care Anon and thanks again for reading! ^3^ Have a nice day!
A few months ago I was joking as I added to someone else’s post that a neutral ending to the possibilities for who lil Casca was talking about previously was her son (compared to ‘good ending: Guts’, ‘bad ending: Griffith’) but…
frankly now I wonder if that really wasn’t who she was talking about from the beginning, especially if you consider that lil Casca is a direct representation of current!Casca.
It would explain why the Skull Knight insisted so much about Casca and Guts having different wishes when she comes back: maybe what will motivate her to come back isn’t even Guts in the first place but her son because she’ll want to save him from Griffith/Femto. I mean, ever since the Eclipse, she always was the most “aware” whenever her son was around.
Even in this state, she knows he’s inside of Griffith 2.0 (when no one else does, just saying), which is probably why the last fragment took this form in the first place. Her son turning out like that is a direct consequence of the Eclipse and so is him being used for Griffith’s rebirth during the tower of conviction arc.
I had always assumed this cover was in relation to the fact that her son became the receptacle of Griffth 2.0 (and maybe it’s also what it means), but now that I saw your tags it really reminds me of what Rickert (in vol 38) and Judeau (before dying) basically implied about Casca remaining their leader because, as long as she survived, their group would too.
So, despite her probably intense fear of Griffith, maybe Casca will go back to being a leader, except that she will do it all for her son’s sake and, in that case, her “Band of the Hawk” will mean something in relation to her son and not Griffith.
Besides, looking at the Moonlight Child…
it’s probably because of the current link between the demon infant and Femto, but he certainly shines bright like the Hawk of Light, just like the demon infant does in Casca’s dreams:
TL;DR maybe the “Hawk of Light”, the true savior of humanity that the Pope sees in Griffith 2.0 actually is the Gutsca baby, as foreshadowed by the cover of vol 20, because his parents will save the day and the rest of the world all for his sake.
Such a development would be so fitting when that poor baby was cursed before it was even born. ;_;
Ahh, my bad Anon! Basically, it’s more “true Hawk of Light = Gutsca baby (demon infant + moonlight child)”, thanks to @lenok993 making me realize something.
Let me reexplain in different terms:
Casca and Guts will never give a single care that Griffith/Femto/the God Hand decided to cast an era of chaos and darkness upon the world.
They aren’t going to save the world just because “they’re the only ones who might be able to stop Griffith”.
However, whatthey will care about, especially Casca, is the fate of their son who’s currently trapped within Griffith 2.0.
Now, considering the following:
I always thought that the Pope was manipulated like the rest of the world by Femto, but maybe he’s not completely wrong when he says that “the Hawk of Light you see here is our savior” because the Griffith we see in this scene = Femto + the demon infant.
We know Femto is never going to be anyone’s savior but rather the one who brings doom to the whole world, however, here’s what Rickert said…
meaning that there currently are two bands of the hawk: the new one led by Griffith 2.0 (made of humans and apostles) and the old one, which survived and is still led by Casca because…
So, symbolically speaking, couldn’t we say that there might be “two hawks”? Maybe “the White Hawk” and “the Hawk of Light”? And one of them is Femto obviously but what if the other is…
…the Gutsca baby, because he too is constantly associated with a shining light and Griffith?
All in all, the reason we could consider the Gutsca baby as the possible Hawk of Light is that, beyond being currently associated with Femto, it was said that “the Hawk of Light would be humanity’s savior”. So either Miura-sensei is just enjoying dark humor here, since Griffith is not going to save anyone, or he is actually double-trolling us because there is going to be a Hawk of Light that will (indirectly) save humanity, however it’s just not going to be Femto but the other part of Griffith 2.0, a.k.a the Gutsca baby.
Again, Guts and Casca probably won’t care about saving the world, but they will surely want to try and save their son. And if they do and get rid of Griffith/Femto at the same time, then humanity will be saved, indirectly making the Gutsca baby the hawk of light and humanity’s savior.
So, looking at the cover of vol 20…
you can interpret it in two ways:
Casca gave birth to the demon infant and Femto used him to be reborn into this world and become “the Hawk of Light”.
Casca gave birth to the true “Hawk of Light”, because it’s not Femto but rather her and Guts’ son and his parents rescuing him will be what is going to save humanity.
Finally, I also like this theory because the demon infant was cursed from before even being born and yet…
he constantly saved his parents, which is slightly contradictory to having the nature of a demon. Of course, the Skull Knight said it might happen but still, he never ever was even slightly aggressive towards them, so… maybe this kid will really indirectly save humanity, because his parents will have to get rid of Griffith/Femto in order to save him.
Is that… more understandable? 🙂 I hope so in any case, but keep in mind it’s just a theory, it really doesn’t have to turn out like that, haha.
Hi Anon! I hope you don’t mind but I already explained before, so I’ll give you links. :3
Basically, I think Vincent staring in this scene…
was either because of what our!Ciel said or what real!Ciel said, because in both cases, it gave hints about the twins being different (which is normal, just to precise): real!Ciel appears rather selfish in his argument (”we want them to work hard for us”) where our!Ciel is more selfless (”granting everyone’s wishes”), which kinda are opposite stances for the same idea.
If Vincent was particularly thinking about what our!Ciel was saying though, then yes, I do think that it was possibly for the same reason as UT saying that our!Ciel is different from his ancestors when he noticed that our!Ciel saved Harcourt’s life and not just his own in ch84:
I guess Vincent could have been thinking intently about what both his sons were saying too. 🙂 So this makes 3 possibilities overall for why this panel might be significant, haha.
I hope it helps (in the end I ended up explaining again anyway lmao)! Have a nice weekend, Anon!
A few months ago I was joking as I added to someone else’s post that a neutral ending to the possibilities for who lil Casca was talking about previously was her son (compared to ‘good ending: Guts’, ‘bad ending: Griffith’) but…
frankly now I wonder if that really wasn’t who she was talking about from the beginning, especially if you consider that lil Casca is a direct representation of current!Casca.
It would explain why the Skull Knight insisted so much about Casca and Guts having different wishes when she comes back: maybe what will motivate her to come back isn’t even Guts in the first place but her son because she’ll want to save him from Griffith/Femto. I mean, ever since the Eclipse, she always was the most “aware” whenever her son was around.
Even in this state, she knows he’s inside of Griffith 2.0 (when no one else does, just saying), which is probably why the last fragment took this form in the first place. Her son turning out like that is a direct consequence of the Eclipse and so is him being used for Griffith’s rebirth during the tower of conviction arc.
I had always assumed this cover was in relation to the fact that her son became the receptacle of Griffth 2.0 (and maybe it’s also what it means), but now that I saw your tags it really reminds me of what Rickert (in vol 38) and Judeau (before dying) basically implied about Casca remaining their leader because, as long as she survived, their group would too.
So, despite her probably intense fear of Griffith, maybe Casca will go back to being a leader, except that she will do it all for her son’s sake and, in that case, her “Band of the Hawk” will mean something in relation to her son and not Griffith.
Besides, looking at the Moonlight Child…
it’s probably because of the current link between the demon infant and Femto, but he certainly shines bright like the Hawk of Light, just like the demon infant does in Casca’s dreams:
TL;DR maybe the “Hawk of Light”, the true savior of humanity that the Pope sees in Griffith 2.0 actually is the Gutsca baby, as foreshadowed by the cover of vol 20, because his parents will save the day and the rest of the world all for his sake.
Such a development would be so fitting when that poor baby was cursed before it was even born. ;_;
Hi Anon! I’d consider it a crack theory more than a theory, but it’s something I always kept in some part of my mind yeah, because…
Kaneki and Mutsuki parallel each other and, well, we know what happened to Mutsuki’s family…
Also, Sensei revealed rather late that Kaneki had an abusive mom and I always thought there could be a plot-relevant reason for that, especially since “Rize” is the one who gave us the first hint for that truth in ch62:
so I’d find it fitting that her calling him a murderer right now would also be in reference to what possibly happened with his mom, if he had a hand (whether it was an accident or not) in how she died.
Besides, there is something Kaneki never solved about his mother. I always thought that he’d maybe finally mention her to someone (like Touka) once he’d feel safe enough to address the subject of his abusive childhood but he never did. So, as @hidewari proposed [x], maybe we still haven’t seen him properly addressing the topic of his mother because he feels guilty about what he did to her, especially considering…
that he seems to be smiling in this memory. Also…
:///
Finally, this is just me but what does “dying from overwork” even means? Was it a cardiac arrest? Or did she fall down the stairs because she was too tired? “Overworking” is not specific enough for me not to think Sensei might have something else to add on this topic.
That being said, the reason I’m considering it as a crack theory is that nothing forces Sensei to go that far in Kaneki’s parallels with Mutsuki. These two characters parallel each other a lot already, so Sensei can choose to make it even bigger or not, it won’t change much for anyone besides Kaneki and his personal issues about his mother.
The second thing is that, unlike Mutsuki, for now I think the most likely version of this crack theory is that, if Kaneki played a part in how his mother died, then it was an accident. Like, maybe he tried to push her away when she was beating him and she fell down the stairs, or any similar event leading to no one doubting his version that she died from overworking herself. Of course, the not-an-accident version of this crack theory can be considered too since, overall, nothing is certain.
TL;DR I’m not sure, but that’s kinda why I cannot wait for Monday’s chapter. It’s alwas been a cracky possibility to me but frankly I was kinda scared to mention it earlier this week, just in case it’d cost me a few angry anons in the askbox. That’s why I was really happy to see that apparently other bloggers were thinking the same thing. 🙂 But best to keep it as cracky for now. :3
We’ll see on Monday. Thanks for passing by and have a nice weekend. :))
Hi Anon! And nope, not necessarily? I mean, look at Mutsuki, didn’t we just agree that the latest chapters were a good thing because that means Mutsuki is finally on a good path to start seeking redemption? 🙂
So, why couldn’t it be the same for Kaneki if he, too, is responsible to some extent for his mother’s death? Besides, for now I’m really vouching for an accident, even if it could have been more than that as long as we don’t get more hints for this crack theory.
The main thing to keep in mind is that TG was the tragedy, not :Re, and anyway…
it’s going to be boring if Kaneki ends up dying at the very end and we wouldn’t to disappoint our very special public. 😉 More arguments vouching for a good ending for :Re here!
Maybe I didn’t expand enough above, but what possibly happened (or not) to Kaneki’s mom isn’t directly plot-relevant. It’s relevant to Kaneki’s characterization and development because his mom issues are something he has yet to confront to this day, but all that this crack theory impacts besides himself is his relationship to Touka and their baby, because Kaneki’s future partially
rests
on Kaneki’s character development.
That being said, Kaneki and Touka always were a set and Touka has her own dad issues to confront before the end, so frankly, whether Kaneki is somehow involved in his mother’s death or not, the only thing it implies is that Kaneki will have to confront himself about this at some point. :))
So no worries, Kaneki’s redemption after Dragoneki where the world is concerned will probably have to do with taking V down for everyone else’s sake.
I hope it makes sense! Don’t worry Anon, we don’t even know if this theory is true. Have a nice weekend :3
Hey guys, remember how Tanaka said that it was hard to differentiate the twins (and our!Ciel even said that Rachel and Vincent were mistaken at times too)? Well, in that case maybe Tanaka realized which twin had come back home 4 years ago…
…when our!Ciel built the Funtom corporation, since it was his idea for a future career when he was 8/9?
(don’t mind me I’m just trying to make sense of things we still didn’t get an answer for :))
@tai-butler possible of course 🙂 but more especially in the case of the RCMT for me. I mean, if you consider the following scene…
Tanaka obviously knows something about the attack of December 14th, or at least he guessed who could have come after Vincent’s household. However if, more precisely, he realized that real!Ciel did something…
then maybe our!Ciel asking him about if he’s seen the culprit would have helped Tanaka with guessing which twin came back.
In general, I guess Tanaka had more than one way in 4 years to realize which twin our!Ciel was, especially when we know that our!Ciel is different from the rest of his family according to ch132 and UT in ch84. However, without the RCMT, for now I don’t see how Tanaka could have realized just with seeing him at the hospital which twin our!Ciel was in ch62.
That’s why I think maybe our!Ciel building the Funtom corporation was a big hint for Tanaka, since it always was our!Ciel’s childhood dream in the first place. :))
A few months ago I was joking as I added to someone else’s post that a neutral ending to the possibilities for who lil Casca was talking about previously was her son (compared to ‘good ending: Guts’, ‘bad ending: Griffith’) but…
frankly now I wonder if that really wasn’t who she was talking about from the beginning, especially if you consider that lil Casca is a direct representation of current!Casca.
It would explain why the Skull Knight insisted so much about Casca and Guts having different wishes when she comes back: maybe what will motivate her to come back isn’t even Guts in the first place but her son because she’ll want to save him from Griffith/Femto. I mean, ever since the Eclipse, she always was the most “aware” whenever her son was around.
Even in this state, she knows he’s inside of Griffith 2.0 (when no one else does, just saying), which is probably why the last fragment took this form in the first place. Her son turning out like that is a direct consequence of the Eclipse and so is him being used for Griffith’s rebirth during the tower of conviction arc.