Do you think it’s possible that ‘Rize’ telling Kaneki not to do anything anymore could coincide with Dragoneki going to sleep? Could she have ‘put him to sleep/inactivity’?

Hi Anon! And nope, not really, because Dragoneki woke up due to Mutsuki attacking him right after he went to sleep and anyway, Hide said that Chigyou predicted Dragoneki would need to physically rest at some point. 

So, maybe I’m wrong, but I think that more generally “inactivity” might become Kaneki’s new creed for the following arc to come, because…

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More than simply pushing him to blame himself though, what Rize is saying is that if he keeps on fighting, he’ll trigger the death of more people that he loves, which is why Kaneki concludes that stopping here is what will allow him to protect what’s left of them.

So “Rize” (who again is himself) is introducing the idea that “passivity” should be his new way to protect the people he cares about. As such, I also agree with @hamliet​ that “Rize” might eat “Kaneki” next, as an opposite parallel to the Aogiri arc when he “ate” her to gain her strength (I mean, if he’s going to stop doing anything, then he doesn’t need strength anymore, right?).  

Back to the reality world, it might simply be translated into Kaneki 100% blaming himself for becoming a monster and not believing that he’s able to change the world, just like he was supposed to do…

  • first in TG, as the first artificial OEG who was a part of both worlds, as described by Yoshimura
  • then in :Re as the OEK.

However, more than learning from his failures and not even realizing that the Dragoneki situation did allow humans and ghouls to work together for the first time, Kaneki will probably stick for a time to the fatalistic idea than nothing can change, just like Touka currently (so they’ll be a set there again in this possibility). 

Of course this won’t be his final stop point in his development journey, because V will be his shot at getting redemption for what he did as Dragoneki, by protecting everyone and finally realizing how useful he is:

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However, if V threatening everyone isn’t enough to do the trick and motivate him because he’ll still be scared to fuck up and cause more death, then Kaneki (and Touka) realizing that changing the world is necessary for their baby’s future might once again allow him to find his resolve:

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So “Rize” is basically parroting what Kaneki heard from Furuta in ch143 and this chapter is just a continuation to ch144:

  • when fighting against Arima in Cochlea, Kaneki was ready to just let himself die, but then he decided to live on and to take on what Eto and Arima were expecting of him, because he had nothing else to live for.
  • Meanwhile in the current arc, Kaneki doesn’t want to die anymore, but “Rize” (who is just a part of him) is pushing him to believe that he’s so useless that it’s better to stop fighting in order to avoid more death.

In one way that seems pretty grim and depressing, but I’m personally super glad that it might have laid to rest all the femtoneki theories. x)

I hope it makes sense, have a nice day Anon!

kanekikenunot:

What really gets me

Is that while Kaneki is beating himself up over not being able to save anyone, and hurting over hurting others thus ruining the chances of humans and ghouls getting along.

Humans and ghouls are working together to save him

It breaks my heart, how much insecurity he has on the positive impact he has had instead of focusing that even though he has made a lot of mistakes he is still loved and cared for by so many. This just gets me that for so long Kaneki has been dealt with this conditional love by his mother, that he can’t fathom that people would still love him who he considers a monster

Chapter 158 Incoherent Reactions

hamliet:

Go Rize! Exposing the flaws in Kaneki’s OEK plan.

No Rize! it’s not all his responsibility.

Kaneki hon no, it’s not all your fault. Everyone else has agency too. Juuzou chose to follow Furuta and to butcher you. Hirako chose to stay behind and fight with the kids. Thinking everything is all on your shoulders is part of the problem, Kaneki-kun, honey. Please. You didn’t make Juuzou attack you or Hinami. You are only responsible for your own poor choices, not theirs.

Rize’s conclusion is also very faulty: do nothing, it’d be better. Um. No. Not true, Illusion Rize.

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Interesting it seems like we’re overcoming the lying to self (Mutsuki) flaw first, and now it seems like Kaneki’s going to be dealing with Saiko (do nothing) and Shirazu/Urie (bear the burden) next. He’s got to realize he can do things, that he isn’t like some toxic poisoner who only hurts because ouch. (I think Kaneki’s child may play a role in that–you created a baby, Kaneki).

Also all the focus on Rize’s mouth is um. Increasing my suspicion she will eat him and it’ll be up to the aces/qs to help save him from his despair.

catsoul2:

Most people were making up “Kaneki will fuck Rize in his mind” theories but I guess the only one who will end up being fucked will be Kaneki by Rize’s words that talking about painful facts, oh boi

and technically since “Rize” is actually just a part of Kaneki’s mind, it’s literally just Kaneki roasting himself so that he will end up blaming himself for all that happened.

It’s inception mixed to dark irony, you gotta hand it to Sensei to make this so fucked up xDDD

I’m really surprised that you haven’t mentioned the fact that Frances looks a lot like Undertaker in Yana’s latest sketch. Unless you don’t think so? For me it’s by far the eyes are by far the biggest resemblance.

Hi Anon! Well, actually since I already did a comparison post on the subject a few months ago, I didn’t want to sound annoying by making yet another mention of it, especially when it’s really a subjective opinion that can be different for everyone. 🙂

Besides, Sensei hasn’t drawn UT’s eyes in a while so I don’t have any recent point of comparison

(maybe mid-March, for White Day she might though?), which is why I didn’t want to bring up the subject again. xD

Anyway, you’re free to think what you want on this subject. 🙂 Personally, I always found Frances and Lizzie to be extremely beautiful ladies (I’m aware I’m biased since they’re also extremely badass) and I do like the long eye effect whenever Yana sketches Frances…

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but any conclusion to draw from this remains a personal thing. 

Sorry if that’s a little disappointing :3 Thanks for passing by though and have a nice day!

serinigalini:

Can we please talk about this?

In the last chapter of the Campania arc, Our!Ciel witnessed one of the closest friends of his family who has been around forever turn into a completely different persona, revealing his true self.

However, when UT’s lockets fell, Our!Ciel caught them and Undertaker trusted him with keeping the lockets safe.
Even though his body went limp due to the cold, he still held with all the strength he had onto the funeral lockets
Even though Undertaker caused the bloodshed in the arc and almost killed his butler, he still held tight onto UT’s treasure.

I guess the Phantomhives have a tendency to trust the retired handsome grim reaper.
Cloudia please explain everything to us, where are you, Undertaker’s sweetheart.

Ohhh yeah definitely @serinigalini I mean, I don’t know for the others, but that seems true enough for Ciel. Look at this scene in the current arc…

…Ciel had almost forgotten that UT wasn’t around anymore after what happened on the Campania and Weston, despite confronting him as the villain of these two arcs.

I think this is rather telling of Ciel not having any idea what to do or think about him, because he’s been around for a while:

that could be why, upon learning that one of his lockets is Claudia’s, you have both Seb & Ciel thinking about moments where UT foreshadowed having more specific goals than just messing around. 

Shady Druitt

shinigami-mistress:

We haven’t heard from Aleister Chamber lately, but all this talk of cults and kidnapped children caused me to think of him once more. Here’s a big question that has only barely been discussed so far.

How likely is it that he was involved in the cult that sacrificed real!Ciel?

Of course, he wouldn’t have been there the day that Sebastian was summoned as he is still alive, but there’s still reason to believe that he could be involved. To begin with, our first introduction to Aleister was when he was suspected of being Jack the Ripper (one of the few things he was actually innocent of).  One of the reasons he was suspected was that he had recently gotten into black magic/occult.

We also know he has no qualms about kidnapping and selling individuals. In fact, it wouldn’t be too much a stretch to think he might have sold some children to the cult.

Secondly, he has connections to other cults. He was a very active member of the Aurora Society. While it’s unclear whether or not he was a member of the Blue Sect, his nephew was an important member. At the very least, he had an indirect connection to that cult. It’s not too much of a stretch to imagine he might have been a part of this cult as well.

Thoughts?

@midnight-in-town

Well, your blog is really captivating :) It makes me willing to keep up with Kuroshitsuji (which I liked, but stopped reading with attention bcs of the monthly schedule and it being a little bit too slow bcs of it for me) and your blog is one of the reasons (I was recommended by Others as well) I read monster which I loved! So good job! :)

Aww, thank you so much for reading and for the nice words Anon! ❤ ❤

Tbh, Kuroshitsuji totally has pacing issues that can be 100% annoying (I mean, personally I was really pissed off last year until the flashback started and I might be again if the arc doesn’t get a move on, once we get back to present time), so I can’t blame you for possibly not keeping up. :3

It’s still very heart-warming to read that my blog might help in that aspect though, I hope it will still be the case if we get a few more months of pacing issues once the flashback is over and I slightly rant again. ^^”

I’m also very happy that my blog is partially the reason you gave a chance to Urasawa Naoki’s Monster. Myself I was rec Monster by a work colleague a few years ago and I’m still very grateful to them! ^_^ It’s an amazing series and once I actually have a life (hopefully in a year), I intend on reading other works by Urasawa-sensei. 

Thank you again so very much for sending such nice words! I wish you a lovely day Anon ❤