I can’t help but wonder how much truth there is in the “you sacrificed your brother” statement. Like, undeniably, OC was the one who summoned Seb. Even if he didn’t kill him. It was an accident, right? So does that count as a lie or just twisting the truth? OC has been asking Seb if he lied about something a lot lately. What is it that he refers to? That RC could never come back, or OC sacrificed him? The order to never lie was presumably after. Both the “can never come back” and ->

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Hello Anon. 🙂 Soooo, to address your different remarks:

  • Sacrifice vs Accident

To quote you, “it’s an accidental summoning any way you look at it” in my opinion as well!

@cielsama14​ explained it well enough as well here, so all I’m going to say is that our!Ciel definitely is the one who turned his back on God and called for Seb, which is why his brother’s soul was used to pay for Seb’s summoning.
However, considering that he said…

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I can’t call that a sacrifice, seeing as it’s not something he did consciously or willingly. 

After reading the chapter, I also don’t think Seb lied, because he definitely heard our!Ciel calling and the fare for crossing was paid, so his interpretation that it was a sacrifice, especially considering the settings he found our!Ciel in, makes sense (even if we readers know that it’s not exactly what happened).

However, manipulation from Seb’s part is also rather obvious where I’m concerned, because he definitely decided to show up for a reason…

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And his way to try and play it chill isn’t exactly fooling anyone…

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…since our!Ciel didn’t really have any other option besides making that contract to survive the cult. 

So in the end, it’s as William said…

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  • About Frances

Frankly, whether she knew or not about which twin our!Ciel was, I don’t think it really matters nor that it will trigger such a huge reaction out of her in case she didn’t anyway. x) Besides, sorry but she clearly wasn’t wrong in ch132, I mean…

she never said that our!Ciel wasn’t clever enough for the job, more like he was too physically weak and we’ve had enough occasions to see for ourselves that, without Seb, Ciel would have indeed died many times in the past. 

I mean, no worries, I can understand wanting Seb to mess with her a little, since she’s always keeping such a perfect composure, but I actually enjoy the fact that she, as well as Nina and UT, can give a demon cold sweat even though they’ll never be as strong as him. Besides…

this is Frances “tricked” by Seb in ch14, so I think she’s more level-headed than maybe you give her credit for (not that I can blame you for that, seeing how Yana uses her for comic relief most of the time xD). 

Anyway, as I explained when ch132 came out, my opinion is that Frances doesn’t care about the Phantomhive family being successful or well-seen or anything, she just cares about its survival because she cares about her family. So the only moments we might see her falter…

…will probably always have to do with if/when she feels powerless about helping her family and maybe only our!Ciel (and not Seb) will ever have an influence on her in that aspect. 

We have time before anything like that happens though, haha, so as always feel free to disagree. 🙂 

Thanks for passing by Anon! I do agree that the Seb/Ciel dynamic is very interesting especially, since the more we advance, the more I see hints that they might end up clashing at some point, and that even though UT is counting on Seb to protect Ciel for now indeed. :))

Have a nice day! 

A Face You Fear…

shinigami-mistress:

When Sebastian first appears, we see many different forms in the mist. Such as as a snake…

…a wolf…

…bird and a horned creature (a ram or a goat maybe?)…

…and a bat to name a few.

It’s clear that Sebastian has a lot of power of the form(s) he chooses to use.

When he wanted to take on a human facade, he choose to look like a (devilishly) handsome man.

A man who happens to look a bit like Vincent.

While this could be a coincidence, perhaps this is just another one of Sebastian’s forms that he thought could stir emotion and even fear inside of our!Ciel. After all, our!Ciel had been convinced that he had sacrificed his brother – that he had committed this horrible, unforgivable crime. Who do children fear seeing when they’ve done wrong? Their parents.

Our!Ciel would undoubtedly fear his parents ever learning he did such a thing. While they are dead, that thought would be in his mind. He wouldn’t anyone to know that he had sacrificed his brother – especially not his father.

And now he has to stare into a face that looks similar to his father’s face each day – a face belonging to someone who knows exactly what he did.

To the rest of the world, they only see a handsome man, but to our!Ciel it’s a reminder that his parents, particularly his father, would have been horrified that he, the weak son, had ‘sacrificed’ the chosen child.

Thoughts?

So Furuta and Rize back again means Furuta is going to be eaten by Rize soon?

Hello Anon! And yes, possibly, that’s what I’m thinking at least. 🙂 

She’s not the only one, but @hamliet​ recently wrote a good meta about Furuta still ultimately wanting to die and I do still think that he’ll want it done by Rize’s hand, especially if that can help her get herself out of being used by everyone. 

I’m currently not sure what Furuta’s plan is, why he’s still with V, what he did or intends to do to Rize (because these are all points that are likely to be answered in the next chapter), but from the way he referred to her lately, I’d say that Rize is bound to grant him that old wish of his…

because she’s “an ally of his”. 

Furuta had a terrible life so, while this doesn’t excuse his actions, the fact he’s conscious that he’s a tragic character and that he’s been actively making the plot move forward might allow him to finally die the way he wanted it to happen long ago.

That’s my take on it at least and, for all I know, it could change next week with the chapter about “Furuta and Rize”. :))

I hope it helps for now though, even if it’s to take with a grain of salt, as always. Have a nice day Anon!


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Hello! Ahhh, from what I saw, you weren’t the only one Anon. 😉 However…

just like for Kaneki, it’s likely to just be a parallel of situation and not of characterization.

Of course, seeing ch128, it’s possible for Rize to be forced to become some kind of antagonist to the CCG and Kaneki’s side, however, it doesn’t mean that her character will follow the same development as Griffith/Femto. 
Rize had similar shitty years of being tortured just like it happened to Griffith, I’ll give you that, but I don’t think Dragon!Rize is going to become an equivalent to Femto. 

In the first place, while Femto might be one of the executioners of the Idea of Evil, he’s still “free” in the sense that he’s bound by the law of causality to still go for his dream no matter what (that’s why he was chosen from the beginning), so he was given a corporeal body and an army of Apostles and he just does things his way, since his way is benefitting the Idea of Evil anyway. 

Rize though, the poor girl, as far as we know she always only was a tool to one antagonist or another, so as you can see it cannot exactly lead to similar developments. 

I don’t doubt that Ishida-sensei reads Berserk, it’s an absolutely amazing series for a reason, but let’s not say he’s not creative enough to develop his own plot twists without basing them all on Berserk and what happened during the Eclipse.

I hope it answers your question! Have a nice day Anon. 🙂

Discovering the unknown in order to achieve Peace (and Death).

hamliet:

paradoxhamartia:

I loved this chapter.

Ishida rarely disappoints me, but this one in particular was top tier. It’s probably one of my all time favourites. I mean…even my precious baby is back!

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Such beauty.

And,
even more important

, we finally have a
clearer understanding of his “super peace”.  Although not everything has yet been explained, the general picture has become clearer.

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Honestly, I much prefer this execution
rather than what we believed until now. This makes a lot more sense than having humans and ghouls cooperating to defeat Dragon. What would have happened once the common enemy disappeared?

What
humans
really

needed in order to understand ghouls was a taste of their damned existence. And Furuta delivered.

But doesn’t this concept remind you of something?

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Yup.

Our beloved Pineapple-kun

summarizes in a few words what H.P. Lovecraft used as a
foundation

for his writings. The greatest fear that humans harbor in themselves is the fear of the unknown. And of course Furuta, being an
ingenious

little asshole, is well aware of this.

So he plays by these rules, acting in a
rather ironic way. In order to achieve peace,
he thins the boundary between humans and ghouls. Little by little, subtly.

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It’s a gradual process, but Nimura is managing to put one in the other’s shoes.

First off, he makes the CCG
feel the terrible sensation of depriving a human of its life,
regardless of whether this happens against the will of the investigators
themselves.

After that, coup de grace. He makes humans understand what it’s like to kill someone not by their own decision, but by necessity.

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I define all this as ironic because it tremendously
reminds me

of the words of someone who certainly was not allied with Furuta.

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Basically Furuta’s goal (more likely to be just one of them) is to uncover the lying humans, forcing them to open their eyes to the miserable condition of ghouls, abandoning their own comfortable and fictitious truth.

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After the last chapter, in my eyes this phrase takes on further significance. It’s almost as
if Nimura was asking humanity if they really are determined to continue
like this, staining themselves with the sin of life without recognizing
the tragedy of death. The tragedy of being born as a ghoul

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At this point i think that it’s safe to assume that,
narratively speaking, ghouls are the living
incarnation

of death. Their survival depends on the death of others.

Seidou was afraid of it,
and he defeated it by becoming death himself.

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By becoming a ghoul.

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Takizawa was an
unaware precursor of this concept that Furuta introduced much later in the story,
along with his friends in black
clothes.

This should also explain the presence of that enigmatic letter on the cover of the third volume.

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Also, i almost forgot about something else!

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Boom.

Ishida back at it again with the sneaky foreshadowing. It was always in front of us.Ending the conflict = becoming a ghoul. That Sui dude is always 100 steps ahead of us, i don’t even…

That being said,
one wonders how the humans will react to this
terrifying mutation.
I personally believe that the best way to understand it is, once again, to observe the path taken by Seidou.

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I would really love
to see Takizawa reintroduced into the story in order to make the mutants aware of this principle.

There’s always a ray of hope, even after turning into the worst sinner. A brighter future awaits you, and you’ll be able to see it as long as you find someone to live for.

Or maybe, something to live for.

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Even if you lose your very own humanity, you still have the power to fight in order to achieve true peace. I must assume that Amon will play a huge role in this, considering how important he was for Seidou’s
rehabilitation.
Furthermore

he is one of the few already aware of how the real enemy is the world itself, bounded in a twisted birdcage.

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That’s it for today!
I wanted to write something longer and more articulate, but I think this is enough for a first timer. Also italian is my first language, so sorry for eventual potato english. I’ll discuss the rest another time.

Obviously, in case you want to see me discuss something specifically do not be afraid to ask. ;}

Good meta! I hadn’t even thought of the Takizawa connection!

I really love urie but he really gotta stop always talking about job, duty i feel like mutsuki just wants some comforting words and he…we all know he loves him but why not show it :(

sentrakk:

First I wanted to slap Urie for that, but then I got the feeling that they’re both just very hurt and are still unable to communicate properly, because of that. They weren’t even facing each other when talking, whcih shows that they can’t be honest with each other. I’ve already talked about why Urie keeps putting his job first, but I’m starting to think there’s a lot more to it than just his father and Shirazu, more specifically the fact that he straight up got rejected by Mutsuki in chapter 126. Urie before this had no idea that Mutsuki was in love with Sasaki and probably deep down thought that he had a chance. It’s no coincidence that he was salty about Kuroiwa getting married before him and then he was rejected at his wedding by his own love interest. This one line in particular from the omake caught my eye:

He doesn’t think he can or deserves to have to have a family and Mutsuki basically confirmed that for him. He looked dead inside for a reason after Mutsuki confessed their love for Sasaki and after that scene we haven’t really seen him act the same when it comes to Mutsuki. I think he’s given up on his love and is trying to suppress his emotions by focusing on his job which is why he can’t be honest about his feelings. When Mutsuki was kidnapped by Torso, Urie was very obviously concerned, but when they disappeared in 24th ward raid we didn’t get to see what Urie was thinking. When they got reunited he only treated Mutsuki like a member of his squad and couldn’t show his love openly like Saiko did. 

Akira and Urie are still parallels and this is a trait they both share. The scene where they stopped Mutsuki had a lot of parallels to the fight scene with Akira/Takizawa/Amon/Qs in Rushima [x] and there Akira was suppressing her emotions so hard that she was ready to kill Takizawa, because of her job even if she truly loved him and was ready to sacrifice her own life for his sake in the end. While Urie was trying to save Mutsuki instead of killing them in the name of CCG, his approach to the situation was very cold as Akira’s was. He didn’t even act like he was Mutsuki’s friend or family like Saiko, but just their squad leader. I still think Urie will have a scene similar to what Akira had in that arc where he has to choose Mutsuki over his job, but until then he is going to continue acting like this. His father and Shirazu’s influence combined with Mutsuki’s rejection makes a very nasty combination that makes him continue prioritizing his job and think that that is his way to find happiness. In this latest chapter he really seemed to be distancing himself from Mutsuki.

This ship hurts me so much, why do they both have to have so many issues that prevent them from communicating with each other? Like I just want one scene where Urie is able to open up, stop suppressing his emotions and tell Mutsuki how he truly feels even if he doesn’t get anything in return from them. I think I’ve been expecting too much from Urie lately by thinking he’ll save Mutsuki, because Urie needs as much help from Mutsuki as Mutsuki needs from Urie. With Urie I still feel like he’ll have to choose Mutsuki over CCG and tell them how he truly feels, but I think in that situation the act is more important than what he has to say. I’m convinced that Mutsuki already knows how troubled Urie is and they also probably know about his feelings for them. For example Mutsuki knew that Urie wasn’t being honest when he was talking about being a responsible squad leader.

The mutsurie fandom always seems to focus mostly on Urie when it comes to the hug scene back in chapter 29, but that scene was rather important for Mutsuki too, because they found out about Urie’s biggest flaw in it. It was even specifically mentioned in the re:Quest novel:

“The smell of oil paint would ooze from Urie’s room and even from Urie himself, and Shirazu and Saiko would often call him stinky without a moment’s hesitation. But to Mutsuki, it felt like that familiar scent exuded Urie, exuded his coldness and prickliness. Was he thinking that way because he had experienced Urie’s solitude during the Auction Operation?”

I’m pretty certain Mutsuki knows Urie is a lonely person that is just working hard at their job, because they think they don’t have anything else. In this chapter they just wanted to talk and explain what’s been going on, but Urie ignores them, because job™ and Mutsuki looks rather sad. 

I’m also almost certain that Mutsuki knows that Urie loves them romantically, because they seem to very sensitive to that sort of thing. When they first met Torso they recognized the way he was staring at a woman and was uncomfortable, because of men’s stares when they dressed up as a woman and went to the nightclub. They also immediately realized that Sasaki was in love with Touka after he just stared at her once. Afterwards they became jealous.

I don’t think that “coats are nice, I guess” scene was there just for the sake of a joke. It just proved that if Urie has been admiring Mutsuki’s beauty so blatantly like that then Mutsuki has probably noticed that he’s into them. I think the reason they confessed their love for Sasaki in chapter 126 was, because they wanted to tell Urie to give up on them and move on, because they were going on a kamikaze mission for Sasaki. It’s just kind of funny how they both were lonely people who just wanted to be loved in that scene, the tragic conga line of love got in the way of everyone’s happiness.

Anyway, before this I’ve only really been focusing on how Urie could help Mutsuki, but I don’t really know what kind of future this ship would have if it was just a one way street of Urie doing stuff for Mutsuki’s sake. Mutsuki seems to be aware of Urie’s issues to a certain extent so I want them both to make a move to bridge the gap of communication issues. With Urie that probably is picking Mutsuki over CCG and speaking up, but for now I don’t really know what Mutsuki could do. Whatever happens I think they both have to make an effort, Urie just going up to Mutsuki and confessing isn’t enough.

UT was checking whether Sebastian was good enough to protect our Ciel? But what kind of danger can he be threatened, if UT needs a demon to protect him?

Hello Anon! Yes, in my opinion, that’s clearly what UT was doing…

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and it’s not exactly that UT needs something as powerful as a demon to protect our!Ciel, at least I don’t think so, because he did consider getting rid of him in the Campania arc..

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but rather that he might as well use Seb to protect Ciel from another enemy that might succeed in getting to Ciel even earlier than Seb.

Don’t get me wrong, Seb is a real threat to Ciel in UT’s eyes too, but not as long as Ciel doesn’t get his revenge or abandon the contract mid-way.
That’s why UT is currently more wary of another threat and would rather use the contract between Seb and Ciel as his insurance that Seb will protect Ciel for now, while he’s possibly looking for a way to take this other enemy down. 🙂

For more details, please take a look at these posts:

I hope it helps :3 Have a nice day, Anon!

There is one thing odd about the Queen Victoria in Kuro. Where are her numerous children? Is it possible Victoria and Albert never got the chance to have children because Albert died young, maybe 50 years ago? Maybe what happened 50 years ago involved Albert, as well as John Brown, who somehow plays puppet!Albert perfectly. I think there is a much deeper connection.

Hi Anon! You know what, I wondered the same thing about Victoria’s children when ch108 was released because we’ve yet to meet or hear about any. 

Not that it means that Sensei changed history in Kuroverse, but unless they’re going to be plot relevant, I guess it’s probably too much trouble to introduce them (especially since they should all be adults in the timeline) and that’s understandable. :))

Edit: Anon, look here, @acandletoguide added very interesting thoughts about who, out of all her children, might show up/be mentioned considering the plot so far. :33

About Albert though, no, I don’t necessarily think he died 50 years ago. It’s true we currently don’t have a lot of details about how he died and when in Kuroverse, which is why for now I’m thinking it was in 1861, just like his historical counterpart (although I might be wrong). 

I do agree however that Albert is extremely relevant to Victoria’s character and even to Brown’s, because sometimes, on top of calming her down, it’s as if Brown was almost manipulating her using the puppet:

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I mean, this scene in particular really creeps me out because look at the way she’s talking: She first sounds and acts like a little kid until she becomes some sort of very happy-go-lucky pacifier seeking to build an utopia (when it’s war we’re talking about here) and it’s just…odds.

So I’m not sure what to make of the bond between Victoria and Brown: on the one hand, all we ever saw of Brown was always about him supporting her…

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but on the other, it could 100% be an act for all we know, since Victoria clearly acts weird sometimes and it’s unclear whether he’s just cheering her up or if he’s doing something to her when he uses that puppet.

Anyway, all that to say that I agree: there is a connection between some aspects of the plot and Albert. Could be just relevant for Victoria’s character and her dynamic to Brown but it could also be directly plot relevant in many different ways (the war subplot, Victoria wanting BDs…).

Thanks for passing by :3 I hope you’ll have a nice day!

Is kaneki’s body going to be okay?? :(

Hello Anon! And yep,

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I’m sure he will be eventually. :3

For now I think he’s completely exhausted and the reason his body still hasn’t healed probably is because, as explained in this post, all that he ate was most likely used to fuel that giant kakuja, so hopefully if he rests and tries to eat a decent amount of Rc cells, he might be able to heal.

That being said, in case the aging problem of ch131 still hasn’t been solved by the amount of Rc cells he ingested during the Dragoneki arc, then I guess it’ll be Kimi’s redemption to try and figure something out to help him.

For now, he’s very probably exhausted Anon, but no worries he isn’t going to die [x][x] and I also doubt he’s going to stay that way:

  • not when we saw an arm full of eyes holding the ring in the previous chapter 
  • or when it seems he could create clones
  • or when it seems the whole arc “gave birth” to (another?) Rize.

I hope it helps, have a nice day Anon! :3


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Hi Anon! So, actually, according to this post, it rather seems that…

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the guys we saw eating at the end are humans turned into ghouls and it’s definitely the result of Kaneki going huge kakuja. 

Remember Kaneki when he first became a OEG? He craved meat, because “hunger” for a ghoul is horrible to deal with compared to humans, but still, the thought of eating humans must be disgusting to these new ghouls, which is possibly why one of them was throwing up as Furuta walked past them.

That’s how I see it for now. :3 I hope it helps! Have a nice day Anon. :))


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Hi Anon! And I’m sorry, I really tried but I can’t really understand what you’re trying to say? ;_; 

I do think Rize got a new body (whether there are now two Rize or just one though, that I don’t know) but I don’t think it means that Rize became or can become Kaneki (or the other way around)?

Sorry, I really don’t see what you mean. ://