^^ Your thought are my thoughts exactly. Hopefully when Eren ‘fesses up to Hange, this will all be sorted out. She can scientifically explain bloodlines to him and help him see that not all royals are equal. Historia is a noble bloodline (Reiss), but not THE royal bloodline (Fritz). Contact with the Fritz is needed to control the coordinate.
There are still decedents of the Fritz bloodline living within the walls. The old King was likely a member of the Fritz line. Eren needs to be looking for that old man or someone in his family. They can hold hands or something while he unleashes the wall titans.
The other person who can help is Zeke. If he came over to the walls way of thinking, a Jaeger brothers reunion could fix this.
One thing is certain; young Grisha, who still resided in Marley, definitely didn’t care much for Zeke. He even says so himself.
But this is older Grisha speaking about his past self. He’s criticizing his actions, and speaks with regret. He’s very well aware of his fuck-up. And, looking back at some of his interactions with Eren, it seems pretty clear he learned his parenting lesson, at least in basic caring-for-your-child.
Grisha seemed concerned about Eren’s social activities. Since he only got along with Armin, and typically got in fights with the other local kids, Grisha seemed to hope spending some time with the girl living in a very peaceful environment could help his son.
Here we first see a relieved Grisha, upon learning Eren is in one piece. Then he gets quite mad at him for risking his life the way he did, for putting himself in danger. I think this scene has some more weight now, since Grisha blamed himself for wanting to put Zeke into danger. Now his 2nd son, whom he told to stay safe and away from the trouble, gets himself into danger.
Grisha is crying before injecting Eren. Sure, a lot of factors come into play here, like the death of Carla, or the knowledge that he’s about to kick the bucket. But still; Grisha is very well aware of the pain that lies ahead of Eren; and he is once again forcing his child on his own mission. Considering how regretful Grisha sounds in his book, he can’t be happy about doing this for the 2nd time.
So yes, I do think he cares about Eren, and, if he still had the chance, he would care for Zeke. I’m sure that, during his time in the walled world, he didn’t forget about him. But I’ll get to that later again.
Now onto Dina v Carla–Dawn of Jaegerwife.
Grisha met Carla after arriving in the walled world. Whilst we don’t know yet what plan he came up with together with the owl, it doesn’t seem to be something extremely urgent. He can pretty much live freely, and is in control of his actions. He meets Carla, a person without high social status or relevant bloodline (probably). They marry, and have a child. There is nothing political about this marriage. No external reason for Grisha to do that, no ulterior motives (as far as we know). So, I’d say this was truly based on love. Nothing else behind it.
Eren,Carla,Mikasa…please be safe!-EP2
I know this scene doesn’t appear in the manga, but I’m fairly certain it had Isayama supervision. It’s Grisha in the night he learns of the fall of wall maria and tries to eradicate the Reiss line. Tears stream down his face at the thought of his family being dead. It’s something he definitely has to consider, especially since they live in Shiganshina.
And here he learns about Carla’s death. Two reactions panels, and then he beings taking Eren to the forest to avenge her. There isn’t much of an immediate reaction, but I’d like to think that, similar to Mikasa in ch 7, he’s suppressing his emotions through actions. And as we saw, they take over once he’s inside the forest.
His relationship with Dina is…different. To him, she had royal blood leading to Eldia’s salvation; to her, he was the leader of the group that was going to free their people. In their context, they were both important people for their group, and it makes for these two to conceive the soldier that would lead them to victory. Grice even describes their marriage as “entrusting Dina” to Grisha, emphasizing the political aspect of their bind.
However, I’d say his immediate reaction to her demise is pretty legit. Their marriage lasted over 7 years and only ended because of their titanization. We also never get a single indicator that their marriage was unhappy, Isa doesn’t show us any of that. Dina’s words “I’ll find you” also lead me to believe that there definitely was an emotional connection between them as people. Maybe their marriage started off political, but over the course of time an emotional bond was definitely formed.
We don’t know how much time has passed between Dina’s transformation during 87, and Grisha’s transformation into a mindless titan (probably next chapter though). We also don’t know for how long Grisha wandered around Paradis before meeting Keith. Zeke’s age could be an indicator, but since that is currently unknown, we really can’t tell. One thing is certain though: Grisha arrived in the walled world in 830, twenty years before the current story. Since Eren is 15 in 850, he was presumably born in 835, 5 years after Grisha arrived. In those 5 years he met and married Carla, and she got pregnant. It seemed as if they married shortly after the plague that attacked Shiganshina, but I can’t recall that a specific date was ever given to that incident. Someone may correct me on that though. But ultimately, we can’t say for sure how much time has passed. The timeline from the Grisha files isn’t complete yet, so hopefully next chapter will clear some things up.
Did Grisha still love Dina after Carla? I don’t know. Unfortunately we don’t really have any insight into Grisha’s mind from that time. There is one detail I’d like to consider though. The photo of Grisha, Zeke and Dina is at the very beginning of his book. Practically on the opening page. Of course it serves the purpose of dramatic effect during the reveal back in ch 85; but I’d like to think that, whenever Grisha came down to work on his books or his plan or any other activity concerning the Eldia/Marley conflict, he looked at that picture. As a reminder of his mission in the walls, as a reminder for what is at stake, but also as a reminder of the family his own actions had cost him. He could’ve stored that pic somewhere deep inside the book, but he places it there, at the very beginning. I’m sure that’s the reason why. Somewhere deep down, he still cared for the people he lost.
In the beginning, there was only darkness and an eternal abyss known as Ginnungagap. But when frost and fire collided with each other, they melted together; and amid the hissing of steam- the form of Ymir was revealed.
Ymir was the first Jötunn and from his sweat, more Jötunn were birthed to life. They were his offspring and are directly descended from Ymir.
But the gods slew Ymir; tearing his body into pieces and creating the world from his corpse. They fashioned the oceans from his blood, the soil from his skin and muscles, vegetation from his hair, clouds from his brains, and the sky from his skull.
The gods eventually formed the first man and woman from two tree trunks. They built a wall/fence around the humans and called this world “Midgard” in hopes of keeping the humans safe from the Jötunn.
Within the world of Shingeki no Kyojin, we were given a creation myth that sounds very similar to this tale.
But there is an obvious difference between the two which leads one to suspect whether or not there should be a connection made between those two distinct differences.
In the Shingeki no Kyojin creation myth, Ymir died and was split into many pieces- creating nine titan powers that were passed through the generations.
The Coordinate
Reiss Family (Frieda)
Jaeger Family (Grisha -> Eren)
Colossal (Bertholdt)
Armored (Reiner)
Female (Annie)
Dancing (Ymir)
Beast (Zeke)
???
In the Norse Mythology creation myth, Ymir died and was split into pieces creating the world- which was made into nine separate worlds.
Midgard, the world of humans
Asgard, the world of the Aesir
Vanaheim, the world of the Vanir
Jotunheim, the world of the giants
Niflheim, the primordial world of ice
Muspelheim, the primordial world of fire
Alfheim, the world of the elves
Svartalfheim, the world of the dwarves
Hel, the world of the dead
Could there be a possible connection?
Of course, I’m speaking purely in symbolic terms. A character’s relation to a specific world might hold some clues to their role within the story.
I have a few guesses, but take these with a grain of salt.
The Coordinate could represent the world of Midgard since its been established that Midgard is the world of humanity while the Coordinate is the collective (titan) power of the people.
The Reiss Titan could represent the world of Asgard since these gods built a wall around their world. And they refer to everything as either “inside the wall” or “outside the wall” ‘cause they’re stuck up like that.
Zeke could represent the world of Vanaheim since these gods are seen as the ‘wilder’ and ‘more animialistic’ gods as compared to the gods in Asgard. These two tribes ended up having a great war against each other, so I’m not saying anything but that sounds alot like the Elodian vs Mare war.
Ymir could represent the world of Jotunheim since I theorize she comes from some completely different secluded fraction that probably existed on their own amid the Titans- which is why she would be seen as royalty by Titankind.
Of course, I could be completely wrong and there could be no connection whatsoever.
Apparently the number “9″ is a really significant number to the pre-Christian Germanic tribes. It was considered the mythical number and the significance of the number nine is found constantly throughout Norse Mythology.
So maybe Isayama just chose nine because its super important.
That part is quite surprising for me because previously BT was talking about that he’s different from his father [父親].
Literal translation:
Why are you so serious. You’re different from father, right?
Over here the term used for him calling father is 父親, which is polite form.
Literal translation:
We’re the victim of that father. You were brainwashed by father.
全然親父と似てないな…
Literal translation: You don’t look like old man/father at all…
The term that Zeke use is quite confusing since he didn’t say “your father” in Japanese when talking to Eren, but just father. Japanese is ambiguous, especially in SNK it always depends on the context, he might have had referred to his own father in ch 81 and Eren’s father in ch 83. But there is also a possibility that he might have referred to the same person too.
There’s already debate on who will get the serum. Will it be Armin? Will it be Erwin? Either way no one seems to care that Bertolt is right there too, in the same page as Armin and Erwin, as a potential person to get the falling axe. Both the fans and the characters are treating him as some sort of tool to revive their loved one, throwing him around like a sack of meat as he lies there unconscious, clueless of what’s in store for him.
I’m personally not sure what will happen with the serum, but I believe Isayama created this situation to put the reader’s humanity to a test. Can the readers understand that everyone involved in this conflict is human? Can they sympathize with them, like a normal human should? For one, the characters themselves don’t.
Except for Jean of course, who once again showed that he’s the voice of
reason and humanity in the series, even if that worked against him in
the end.
Even after everything that happened, Jean still has sympathy for his former enemies, and that’s because he’s human, as Isayama himself says. Jean is supposed to be a relatable character who speaks the reader’s mind. So what went wrong this chapter? Because for one, the reaction I see from the readers is completely different to Jean’s. Is the fandom so attached to their favorite characters that they don’t even care if other two have to die for their sake?
Someone might bring up that the enemies don’t deserve sympathy since they’re bad people who killed innocent civilians for their evil cause, but I don’t see anyone paying attention to what their war chief said this chapter.
It looks more and more that the main characters might not be exactly the good guys in this story, but they’re clueless about what they did wrong so the readers can’t blame them for trying to fight back. Soon enough we might find out that these enemies have a good reason to want humanity to be annihilated, as Hanji speculated earlier in the series.
So what did humans do that was so unforgivable to justify the entire human race being annihilated? Is it something Grisha did? Something the First King did? Humans having their memories wiped clearly plays a big role in this.
But by all means, let’s ignore all the insight we got on the antagonists this arc so we can fight over who should get the falling axe, failing to see the bigger picture Isayama so carefully laid out for us.