They always called each other “Vinnie and Frannie”, though starting from a certain age, the use of these nicknames was slightly more mocking than affectionate. Vincent did go back to calling his sister “Frannie” while being older only as a sign of pure affection though.
They both learnt how to lie from very early on, Vincent because he was a very mischievous boy, Frances because she would cover for him whenever he wanted to do something silly.
One day, when he was 7, Vincent decided to run away for a reason no one bothered to remember after the event. He managed to talk Frances into coming along and stealing Claudia’s shoes so that she wouldn’t be able to go after them, however Tanaka found them before the end of the day and they were punished, mostly because they lost some of Claudia’s shoes on the way back home.
The older they got during childhood, the more competitive with each other they became and at some point they’d constantly end up physically fighting whenever they’d disagree: Vincent would pull his sister’s hair while Frances punched or slapped him and, most of the time, it would end with them mud wrestling and then in tears whenever Claudia witnessed the event.
Some time when he was 8, Vincent’s greatest hobby was to learn how to say “idiot” in as many languages as possible, in order to constantly call out his sister with no one supposedly being able to understand. Once she realized what he was doing though, Frances reiterated by throwing
Vincent’s personal chessboard
out of the window and hiding all the pieces across the house.
Vincent was so pissed afterwards that he planned to cut some of his sister’s hair as revenge, but the massacre was stopped right on time by Claudia and Cedric when Tanaka reported to them that Frances had asked him to force Vincent to commit seppuku if he were to touch one strand of her hair.
At some point Claudia got so tired of her children arguing all the time about literally everything that she decided to force them to kiss each other on the cheek whenever they had to mutually apologize after a fight. Horrified, they calmed down for a little while until they found out that they could use their dad as a proxy instead of directly kissing each other’s cheek and the constant fighting resumed.
it was around that time that Cedric told Claudia that he wouldn’t mind having another child. However, just as he brought up the topic, Vincent threw mud at Frances’ hair who shrieked very loudly and Claudia glared at her husband before answering “over my dead body”.
One day when she was 7 or 8, Frances decided to cut her hair alone (”to look older”) and the result was terrible. Though a maid managed to rectify the disaster by cutting it way shorter than she initially wanted, Vincent, seeing how sad and ashamed his sister was, promised her that he would humiliate anyone who’d dare call her “a boy wearing a dress”.
it’s around this time that Vincent got a growing interest in studying all the many hairstyles that existed and he and Frances would often spend time laughing at haircuts with ridiculously long bangs.
Cedric also bought his daughter shoes with very sharp little heels so that she could innocently hurt the feet of people who would dare mock her haircut.
Honestly, Claudia found all of this very cute, fancy and amusing.
One day, Vincent and Frances were playing ‘hide and seek’ with their parents, but something (Watchdog related) came up and Claudia and Cedric forgot that they were supposed to be looking for their children, which is why Vincent and Frances ended up falling asleep in their mom’s closet, surrounded by her dresses.
It took a few hours for Claudia to realize that she hadn’t seen her children in a while and she totally freaked out when she couldn’t find them anywhere because they were asleep in her closet.
In the end, it seems one of the children woke up and was hungry so they got out of the closet and didn’t understand why everyone seemed so relieved to see them.
Claudia forbade ‘hide and seek’ games from that point on, even more so when Frances wouldn’t shut up about how they had “won”.
The children once begged Tanaka to teach them Japanese and they started after Claudia gave her approval. However, the more they learnt, the more the siblings would often “discuss” in Japanese during meals with the sole purpose of pissing off their parents who didn’t understand the language.
Cedric and Claudia reiterated by speaking a language that the children didn’t understand. It went on like that until Vincent called his mom “baka” and he was severely punished because she at least understood this word. From that point onward, anyone who didn’t speak English during meals wouldn’t be allowed to eat.
I had fun so I hope you found them enjoyable. 😀 Have a nice day Anon!
WARNING: Thing you’re about to read is huge crack-pot written in very bad English with user who doesn’t know how to get to actual point and drags things on. Also this user is slightly under influence of alcohol. You have been warned.
I have been thinking about this for quite a while now but didn’t saw anyone else having this thought as well so might be one to pull officially trigger first.
What if Itori is “the witch”. What if Hide is child of Itori.
For a very bad start, they’re lot alike to each other in lot of ways. But I shall give one example:
Tokyo Ghoul has quite a bunch of parallels to Ishida’s other work The Penisman and guess who is ‘mama’ in The Penisman to Hide-looking character:
Ok this all hints on her being possibly related to Hide. But what does this have to do with her being “witch”? Well…. her mask.
Tell me something, does this mask reminds you on anything in particular? Anything at all? Look at it. Doesn’t it reminds you on …. witch? Isn’t this how witches often are described to look in fairy tales usually?
Not to mention that Hide’s witch’s servant costume looks awfully clownish as well.
Other thing noted about witches in fairy tales is that they tend to be quite old. Usually taking form of beautiful young women to disguise themselves. And Itori is hinted to be perhaps grandma with her introduction
And with referring to Roma as her younger protegee. (And Roma was 51+ year old lady if I might remind on it). So makes you wonder about Itori even further.
But who would be father of Hide? Taking into account that Itori might be way older then she appears (older then Roma) and that Hide-looking character from The Penisman has Itori-looking character (normal human) as mother and giant penis (mutant) as father then…. Nagaraj might be his dad.
Other thing that would make me suspect Hide being possibly related to Underground King (if Itori is truly his mother) are three dots he has on his shirt as Scarecrow as well as in Ishida’s art of him that we have seen kids from underground having as well.
This makes me further believe that Hide has some sort of connection with 24th Ward. One of which him being possibly related to infamous Underground King.
Last small thing to make me think of Nagaraj and Hide being related is “Naga” part as Hide’s last name consists of Nagachika.
(As for identity of possible 100 year one eye, I suggest giving a read to this theory.)
Back onto my own crack-pot thing.
Biggest questions with this would be “But Hide is a human. He ate human food. Wouldn’t half-ghoul and ghoul have ghoul child?” -for human food we already saw Eto who is half ghoul consuming human food and as for “human” thing in general since we’re talking about Hide possibly coming from 24th Ward then lets all remember one little thing about residents of said 24th Ward:
… they don’t consider themselves as ghouls and they truly very well might not be “ghouls” but some sort of hybrids. In remake chapter Ishida even teases us with possibility of Hide not being exactly human per say.
“But Hide is wearing mask because his face is most likely scarred from Kaneki. So shouldn’t this shoot down possibility of him possibly being ¾ ghoul?” -considering we had ghouls with scars, then it would not be that unusual thing. We have to keep in mind that there is limit to ghoul’s regeneration (as seen with Noro), so perhaps if that limit has been breached it results in more permanent damage.
Too long to cut it short: This is huge crack-pot. I do believe in Itori and Hide being related but I’m not that certain in “dad” thing.
I don’t necessarily agree with everything you stated, but if that’s alright, I wanted to add a few things to what you said about Hide’s link to the 24th ward and maybe to Itori. Obviously, we’re talking about a crack theory, so everything should be taken with a big grain of salt, but I do think, like you, that Itori’s mask foreshadows something big about her and I also have doubts about how old she is for the reasons you pointed out. 🙂
Moving on, about Hide, I do think that the three dots are a hint that he has a link to the 24th ward and thus that he might have a link with the 3 kids Ayato met, but specifically now about these kids:
Don’t they remind you of someone?
Because maybe I’m biased, but I find there is a resemblance there and Itori always seemed fairly knowledgeable on “hybrids” in the first place.
Also remember Hide’s make up as the Witch’s apprentice in that play? Well, we saw it on someone else:
It was Ganbo, the Clown who was with Uta and Roma during the Auction arc, the one Takeomi killed with his bare hands. And, there was also one other interesting thing in the Auction arc about the Clowns:
That little house from the auction that the Clowns made appear, because I find it resembles a “helter skelter”, which coincidentally is the name of Itori’s bar.
Frankly I would have never seriously considered a link between Hide and Itori before Ishida’s recent drawing of Hide with the three dots (@Anon who asked me about this a few months ago, I apologize for possibly letting you down ://), but if she’s indeed “the Witch” instead of Eto (still not 100% sure of this tho), considering the amount of things that Hide knows…
and how he kept lurking around from the beginning, maybe he indeed learnt from someone how to gather information.
So, food for thoughts definitely, but those little unexplained hints/similarities have started to pile up in my opinion, so I might as well add to your crack theory with them. xD Btw, when I said I didn’t agree with eveything, it’s because I’m not sure that the Nagaraj had kids, doesn’t seem like the character considering who I think it is (thanks for mentioning my theory about him too :3).
Thanks for writing all of this in the first place, I feel less crazy being the only one starting to consider that there might be a link between Hide and Itori!
My personal translations for the mini comic published with the Kuroshitsuji Book of the Atlantic blu-ray limited edition set, featured here. It is a side-story to accompany the Campania chapters of the manga series.
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