position where he’s raised.

Hello 🙂 I actually gave my thoughts on the subject and reblogged posts I agreed with several times before so here you go:

Should be enough to give you a good idea of my opinion. 🙂 However, I don’t think that the story will go on until we get to see the child (if it survives) becoming an adult and an eventual leader. First of all, I don’t think that Touka and Kaneki will die at the end of TG since :Re isn’t supposed to be a tragedy.

Second thing, I believe the pregnancy has a direct involvement into the plot and not just the dynamic between Kaneki and Touka. Obviously, it will help with their development no matter if it ends well or not, but mostly, this pregnancy plays a huge part (in my opinion) into introducing coexistence as the ultimate goal/chance of making this world a better place.

I already explained it once before, but the main reason that the TG world is so twisted is because approximately 100 years ago V created an “equilibrium” after defeating the previous OEG, which seems to be about keeping the ghoul and human species separated, under the pretext that the humans were good but weak preys to the “evil ghoul kind”.

As for the reason why they created this equilibrium…

I supposed that it’s partly because of hybrids like the previous OEG and Eto (who are the only naturally born one-eyed ghouls so far).
Keeping the human and ghoul kinds separated seemed to be a necessity until now, so that no hybrid born outside of the Sunlit Garden would come to be a threat to the world that V jailed into a bird cage with two locks.

Now back to Kaneki and Touka: despite being an artificial OEG, Kaneki genetically stays a human while Touka is a ghoul, but they fell in love and Touka became pregnant…

…their situation being the only example in the story for now of a hybrid pregnancy with a ghoul mama (Eto and many in the Sunlit Garden being from #possibility 1), so we have no idea how we’re supposed to overcome the issue that Itori stated long ago for #possibility 2.

We were given enough proof until now to understand that humans and ghouls were probably once the same species but that genetic mutations ended up making them quite different over the years: both have Rc cells, but the ghouls having higher rates is probably the reason they developed a kakuhou in order to regulate their high numbers of Rc cells through the utilization of the kagune (and kakugan I suppose).

…Ahem, sorry for rambling, so anyway, the point is that from what I understand so far:

there aren’t supposed to be any hybrid outside of the Sunlit Garden and V uses the “failures/half-humans” like Arima, Furuta, Hairu as CCG investigators to help maintaining the idea that “ghouls are evil and shall be killed”
unless the hybrids are “pure enough” to be “wombs”/”breeders” (like Rize), and in that case they used to help with the survival of the “pure” Washuu family.
That’s why V was after Eto (because she was a naturally born OEG, like the previous big troublemaker of 100 years ago) and why Yoshimura hid her in the 24th ward

That’s also why Kaneki and Touka’s lil baby is important because it might be the first hybrid child to live a happy life if his parents can change the world and make it a safe place thanks to coexistence (and destroying V for good).

However, the fact that ghouls and humans aren’t exactly the same species is why Touka’s pregnancy is complicated (see, her body can mistake the baby for nutrients and absorb it), which is why I think understanding all the differences between humans and ghouls (on a biological level) and finding a way to overcome them (@ probably thanks Kanou) is the only way in my opinion to make coexistence possible and to make sure that Touka’s pregnancy will be viable.

TL;DR I see Touka’s pregnancy has a direct plot thread to Kaneki seeking coexistence, like Furuta’s super peace [x][x][x], Kanou’s researches and Kimi helping him, even if I could be totally wrong.
In my opinion, the pregnancy is a narrative mean (amongst others) to ending the plot of Tokyo Ghoul (especially if the baby is indeed born) and to developing Kaneki and Touka as well as their relationship. The child and its future however are not really a direct part of the plot but, again, I could be wrong.

Sorry it was a long answer, I added lots of details in the other links above so I hope it’s understandable!

Have a nice day 🙂

Hello, from what we’ve seen in the series rc cells are the only nutrients ghouls need to survive. Thus, myself and some others i’ve listened to have had the idea of culturing rc cells in order create an alternate food source for ghouls. However, the series shows that the CCG needs ghoul bodies to make rc solution (implying rc cells can’t be artificially reproduced). Are there any examples of cells in the real world that can’t be cultured?

Hello Anon! That’s a fairly interesting question but honestly please take my answer carefully, because it’s always complicated to try associating fictional biology to how things are done/explained IRL.

To answer your question without rambling too much, IRL, I would be tempted to say that not every cell type can be cultured easily, because for each type the necessary

environment

for culture can differ and thus the results can as well (I know you probably meant human cells, but for example, bacterial culture does not always give good results).
However, due to the rather recent iPSC technology, amongst other innovative ones, a lot of (physiological or pathological) cell types can now be isolated and cultured through what’s like a backward method.

Even totipotent stem cells (the very first cells resulting from baby conception and triggering the development of an entire human being) can be cultured in embryonic stem cell cultures, I believe.

Back to TG, considering the following…

With what we currently know, it’s possible to theorize that the liquid solutions that Sphinx traded were made from ghouls that were “erased” by the compactor at Cochlea, even if we can’t be sure that it’s the only explanation possible.

Anyway, this liquid that contained Rc cells was used in the production of quinques and Rc suppressants and that’s precisely the point making me think that, going with IRL biology rules, if you’re able to make a drug, it means that you could first isolate its target(s).

Taking the example of immunosuppressive agents IRL, the drugs work because we’re targeting molecules being involved in cell-mediated/humoral immunity, amongst other things. So, when it comes to Rc suppressants in TG, if the drug exists it’s because they researched and experimented a way to target the Rc cells in a ghoul’s body, which means that they had to find a way to isolate Rc cells first.

That’s how I see it, but rules in TG can be different from how we do things IRL. 🙂 In the first place, your idea to use Rc cells only to create an alternative food source for ghouls is an excellent one, because ghouls will have to stop targeting humans for food if coexistence (Kaneki’s final goal as the OEK) is to ever work.

Honestly, considering that the current world is resting upon a twisted equilibrium built and protected by V, aka ghouls and humans can’t mix and “this world is only for humans” presenting the ghoul kind as the “bad side”…

…it is probably the reason no researcher ever thought to research about another food source for ghouls based on Rc cells, because V would never allow for coexistence to possibly happen in the first place. That’s pretty sad in itself, but it could definitely be a good idea for a solution if coexistence is sought by humans as well in the near future.

Personally, ever since Akira protected Seidou and was forced to leave the CCG, I’ve hoped that she would research about something like that, since she was praised for being a very good researcher by Chigyou himself. If not her, maybe it’s Kimi’s role and reason for following Kanou around…?

It would be pretty cool, in my opinion. 🙂

Sorry for the long answer, I hope it’s understandable. Thanks for sharing your thoughts and have a nice day Anon!

So if kaneki is aging very rapidly, I guess it’s right to assume the same is happening to the other experiments like Seidou and Kurona. If that’s the case, wouldn’t the same apply to the Oggai and possibly the Quinckes? To add on this, is Kanou aware of the aging? (not that he probably cares) Maybe after all this time, he could provide a solution to this issue (again, not likely but there’s that chance) leading me to wonder if they’ll be forced to ask for his aid.

midnight-in-town:

@xxxdreamingflowerxxx reblogged said:

midnight-in-town:

Hello! Yes, it is indeed very likely for at least Seidou (since he was tortured like crazy by Kanou to “make a new Kaneki”), if not for all the other artificial OEGs of the series to have a similar issue to Kaneki’s, although I think the Qs are different, because they are protected by the different frames around the kakuhou that they release one after the other.

And yep, Kanou definitely is aware of the aging problem but he doesn’t seem to care as long as he can experiment…

So it’s definitely not good news for Seidou (which is why I’m hoping he and Akira and Amon will talk before it’s too late). Kurona is probably in a similar state, when you see how crazy she was until the Rushima arc

Amon apparently cannibalized to survive however…

so he’s probably less at risk than the others for now, if Nishiki’s reasoning is accurate.

Finally about the Qs, the way they were operated on certainly is peculiar and taught Kanou a great deal…

so it’s possible that Kanou might have found a different way to create artificial OEGs without the aging problem. At this point, I’m thinking that the frames that the Qs have might be one solution to the issue, since unless they completely break through the frames around the kakuhou, they can eat human food and remain with a stable Rc cells rate (which is why they’re not described as OEGs in the first place).

Besides, Kanou certainly improved when you see how the Oggai are made…

not with 5 frames, but only with two (A and B, switching from one kakugan to two).

Going further, it’s just a theory of mine at this point, but maybe Kanou and Furuta have been getting along for a while, because ultimately Kanou is trying to find a way to solve the aging issues for the hybrid kids who are from the Sunlit Garden (seeing as Furuta is one himself and we know they’re bound to be slaves to the CCG).

You see, Kanou once explained this back in TG…

so we know that his research is linked to “the regenerating and propagating abilities continuing as long as the nutrient supply isn’t eradicated”, which directly ties to the telomere issues for the artificial OEGs like Kaneki…

…since Kaneki, because he’s originally human, can’t keep on regenerating forever because it’s speeding his aging process along (although, note how Kanou refers to Kaneki as a model to recreate, so again, between that and Eto giving him a gift after the Roze arc, I’m pretty sure there is something to uncover here).

I intend on rereading TG and :Re for all the biological explanations during next week if I find the time, so my ideas will surely be more refined then, but basically, this is what Kanou once said to Kurona…

And I think that Kanou’s ghoulification research is probably about finding a “cure” to the following problem…

…because most of hybrid beings suffer from this (seeing as cases like Eto, who are naturally born as one eyed ghouls and thus not having the aging problem, are very rare) and it also represents the supposed inability for ghouls and humans to coexist with each other, which in turn is the reason why the world is locked in a twisted cage.

Remember that V was apparently formed to eradicate the threat of the previous OEG (who was surely a naturally born one eyed ghoul, like Eto)…

and ever since then, without any OEG until Eto, the world rested onto a twisted “equilibrium” (apparently enforced by V): ghouls and humans being two different parts of the same world but never being allowed to mix, and even if they did, the hybrid children resulting of this union wouldn’t live long anyway.

So I’m thinking maybe Kanou, to break free from the twisted cage built along with this “equilibrium” (aka ghouls and humans can’t coexist because too different), is trying to find a way to reduce/eliminate the differences between ghouls and humans on a biological level, so that the pretext that they are two different species unable to live together won’t hold anymore.
Which in turn will make way for coexistence, especially if Furuta makes sure to become a super villain that needs to be defeated by a big hero (Kaneki).

And guess who is the ghoul who’s currently pregnant with a hybrid baby?

Somehow it all ties back to a similar plot thread. There is a link between humans and ghouls, but there are also differences to understand before coexistence starts being possible, and I think that’s what Kanou’s awful experiments were about from the beginning.

As I said though, it’s a very big theory and I need to refine it a little by rereading every part about TG biology next week if I find the time.
…All that to say there is a high chance that Kanou isn’t this senseless asshole that everyone made him to be and, if Furuta and him have been pals for so long, it’s probably because they see eye to eye about this world being twisted and not the way it should be…

And it would explain why Kanou really disliked how the CCG used to do things back when the Washuus were still the ones having power, which is why he betrayed and went as far as to join Aogiri to keep experimenting.

Hopefully, it will be made clearer soon if I can reread all the things I want to reread before next weekend. Sorry for all the rambling, I hope it answers your question.

Have a nice weekend!

This would also explain why Kimi decided to join him. Because she still wants to be together with Nishiki.

Now I’m getting curious about Kanou, if he ever found out that Kaneki (his masterpiece) will have a hybrid kid sometime in the future… if the oggai don’t destroy that.

Ah, excellent point! I know there is a theory that Kimi might be dead (and revived by Kanou), but it doesn’t seem to entirely work when it comes to the timeline. Anyway, the great wheel act explained Kimi’s motivations before…

So if Kanou is indeed working to introduce coexistence into this world, that would explain why Kimi would join him, despite his terrible methods.

Also, I can’t help but tie what Kanou once said about “the hidden reality” to what Itori also said a long time ago…

So if V/the Washuus truly locked the world into “this twisted cage” (aka ghouls and humans not being allowed to mix/live together) back when they fought against the previous OEG (the one before Eto), and held onto their equilibrium ever since, there is a chance that things between humans and ghouls were different at the time of the previous OEG.

That would explain why…

…these kids think they’re “humans” and in that case this theory by @kingkishou might also be accurate.

Also about Touka’s pregnancy, I might be biased, but I believe finding a way to make it viable would make it possible for a hybrid child to have a real place into this world for the first time and that would be another good indicator of things changing.

Anyway, I promise I’ll try to reread TG in its integrity next week, to see if the pieces all fit. Thanks for your input! 🙂

Found another hint for this theory:

Madam A was receiving her “children” from Kanou, they were all experiments being grafted with Rize’s kakuhou, but in order to break the twisted bird cage Kanou showed an interest in “breeders”, which is also how people like Rize from the Sunlit Garden were called.

So Kanou’s experiments (about the one eyed ghouls, about the Rc cell wall from the 24th ward) definitely seem to have a link to breeders, so to the sunlit garden/V/the Washuu family’s ways, which makes sense in regards to the timing since he already knew Furuta back during TG.

There is more to the chronology of Kanou’s research and experiments but I’ll write it down in another post.

rabiouscats:

OH MY GOD

How do you think on new kaneki illustration?

Hello! Honestly Anon, about this art work, I have a feeling so many interpretations are possible that I don’t know what to tell you, aside from the obvious V on the wrist.

First of all, I really saw Arima, despite the lack of glasses, in the drawing at first xD If that is Kaneki however, I’m supposing that he’s crying black tears and I’ll redirect you to @kingkishou‘s theory about this.

Second thing, the hand with the V scarring on the wrist indicates that the person that this arm belongs to probably is a part of V in the first place. Now who it is, that I can’t even begin to guess:

Furuta, as Kaneki’s shadow and since he’s technically a part of V
I read a theory here about this person possibly being Hide
Since we don’t see who is on the other end of the arm, maybe it is supposed to represent the V organization as a whole, especially since it’s still one big mystery

That’s all I have in mind, no idea if that makes sense, since I’m kinda shitty at symbolism in the first place.

Have a nice day Anon. 🙂

I’ve had this little theory for a long while that maybe V were the ones who created ghouls. If you think about it, no one knows when they appeared or how they even came about. What if V created ghouls in order to create this system or ‘cage’ as Kanou liked to say? A crack theory of mine is that that’s why ghouls can drink coffee, because V thought it would be too much if they couldn’t have it in their lives. Sorry it’s a silly theory but do you think it’s possible?

Hello! Don’t worry, it’s not silly as long as you put some thoughts into it. 🙂

However, I’m not sure I agree for now, since I’m of the opinion that humans and ghouls were once the same species (both have Rc cells, humans just have way less than ghouls) then genetic mutations happened aaaand… we don’t really know yet what followed afterwards. xD

About V, here’s what Furuta, Hirako and Nishiki said…

So basically I think the Washuu family created/formed V (”the new troops”) to fight against the OEG that existed before Eto did (since naturally born one eyed ghouls are rare), and the current V members have a link to the Sunlit Garden, except that they’re more “matured” (meaning they probably found a way to stop the very fast aging process if they’re half humans, since we know people like Arima are bound to die young).

So right now, I think there always were ghouls and humans, but that the Washuu family (a ghoul clan) created a cage and made the world unfair after they defeated the previous OEG (100 years ago or maybe less) with the help of their new troops, V.

We don’t know yet why V are so special (biologically speaking), where they come from (were they humans originally, or ghouls?) and why the Washuu even wanted to stop the OEG and then pretended to be humans for years.
However they apparently maintained an equilibrium

for a long time

(between humans and ghouls -> my current theory is that they aren’t allowed to mix aside from within the sunlit garden, because otherwise it might create people like the previous OEG and Eto who will try to break the equilibrium) after they defeated the previous OEG thanks to V, until Eto shattered everything.

And I’d say that’s all we can guess about V so far, but we’ll certainly get more answers soon!

I hope it helps in the meantime, thanks for sharing your thoughts and have a nice weekend. 🙂

Hello Anon! And it’s one idea, definitely, but Rize was alone, while the Oggai are at least a hundred and besides there are other ghouls fighting the Oggai down there so… making the ceiling collapse seems not to be an entirely flawless plan.

Besides, if the ceiling of the 24th ward collapses, how/where are the ghouls supposed to hide? For now Ayato hasn’t come back yet from this old city, after all.

We’ll see, I still can’t believe that Touka will die, but she could be abducted in case no one is on time to help her, so maybe the Oggai won’t all be erased in the new arc. xD

We’ll see, but thanks for sharing your thoughts in the first place!

Have a nice weekend. 🙂

Hello 🙂 Ah, it’s a possibility, even if not the most likely at this point!
We don’t know where Amon is for now and he doesn’t want to fight for the rebellion supposed to bring coexistence to the table, but depending on what Akira and him were doing all this time and if they are aware of the Oggai moving down to the 24th ward, then they might (or not) get involved.

Amon would definitely try to save Touka since he admitted that she was a good person and he certainly does have a link to Hajime if we look back at TG vol 2, so it’s possible, even if until we get more hints or a cliffhanger with Amon, I’ll consider that the person most likely to help Touka is Ayato.

We’re still at the beginning of the arc, so it’s hard to say and everything is still possible.

Have a nice weekend, Anon!

So if kaneki is aging very rapidly, I guess it’s right to assume the same is happening to the other experiments like Seidou and Kurona. If that’s the case, wouldn’t the same apply to the Oggai and possibly the Quinckes? To add on this, is Kanou aware of the aging? (not that he probably cares) Maybe after all this time, he could provide a solution to this issue (again, not likely but there’s that chance) leading me to wonder if they’ll be forced to ask for his aid.

@xxxdreamingflowerxxx reblogged said:

midnight-in-town:

Hello! Yes, it is indeed very likely for at least Seidou (since he was tortured like crazy by Kanou to “make a new Kaneki”), if not for all the other artificial OEGs of the series to have a similar issue to Kaneki’s, although I think the Qs are different, because they are protected by the different frames around the kakuhou that they release one after the other.

And yep, Kanou definitely is aware of the aging problem but he doesn’t seem to care as long as he can experiment…

So it’s definitely not good news for Seidou (which is why I’m hoping he and Akira and Amon will talk before it’s too late). Kurona is probably in a similar state, when you see how crazy she was until the Rushima arc

Amon apparently cannibalized to survive however…

so he’s probably less at risk than the others for now, if Nishiki’s reasoning is accurate.

Finally about the Qs, the way they were operated on certainly is peculiar and taught Kanou a great deal…

so it’s possible that Kanou might have found a different way to create artificial OEGs without the aging problem. At this point, I’m thinking that the frames that the Qs have might be one solution to the issue, since unless they completely break through the frames around the kakuhou, they can eat human food and remain with a stable Rc cells rate (which is why they’re not described as OEGs in the first place).

Besides, Kanou certainly improved when you see how the Oggai are made…

not with 5 frames, but only with two (A and B, switching from one kakugan to two).

Going further, it’s just a theory of mine at this point, but maybe Kanou and Furuta have been getting along for a while, because ultimately Kanou is trying to find a way to solve the aging issues for the hybrid kids who are from the Sunlit Garden (seeing as Furuta is one himself and we know they’re bound to be slaves to the CCG).

You see, Kanou once explained this back in TG…

so we know that his research is linked to “the regenerating and propagating abilities continuing as long as the nutrient supply isn’t eradicated”, which directly ties to the telomere issues for the artificial OEGs like Kaneki…

…since Kaneki, because he’s originally human, can’t keep on regenerating forever because it’s speeding his aging process along (although, note how Kanou refers to Kaneki as a model to recreate, so again, between that and Eto giving him a gift after the Roze arc, I’m pretty sure there is something to uncover here).

I intend on rereading TG and :Re for all the biological explanations during next week if I find the time, so my ideas will surely be more refined then, but basically, this is what Kanou once said to Kurona…

And I think that Kanou’s ghoulification research is probably about finding a “cure” to the following problem…

…because most of hybrid beings suffer from this (seeing as cases like Eto, who are naturally born as one eyed ghouls and thus not having the aging problem, are very rare) and it also represents the supposed inability for ghouls and humans to coexist with each other, which in turn is the reason why the world is locked in a twisted cage.

Remember that V was apparently formed to eradicate the threat of the previous OEG (who was surely a naturally born one eyed ghoul, like Eto)…

and ever since then, without any OEG until Eto, the world rested onto a twisted “equilibrium” (apparently enforced by V): ghouls and humans being two different parts of the same world but never being allowed to mix, and even if they did, the hybrid children resulting of this union wouldn’t live long anyway.

So I’m thinking maybe Kanou, to break free from the twisted cage built along with this “equilibrium” (aka ghouls and humans can’t coexist because too different), is trying to find a way to reduce/eliminate the differences between ghouls and humans on a biological level, so that the pretext that they are two different species unable to live together won’t hold anymore.
Which in turn will make way for coexistence, especially if Furuta makes sure to become a super villain that needs to be defeated by a big hero (Kaneki).

And guess who is the ghoul who’s currently pregnant with a hybrid baby?

Somehow it all ties back to a similar plot thread. There is a link between humans and ghouls, but there are also differences to understand before coexistence starts being possible, and I think that’s what Kanou’s awful experiments were about from the beginning.

As I said though, it’s a very big theory and I need to refine it a little by rereading every part about TG biology next week if I find the time.
…All that to say there is a high chance that Kanou isn’t this senseless asshole that everyone made him to be and, if Furuta and him have been pals for so long, it’s probably because they see eye to eye about this world being twisted and not the way it should be…

And it would explain why Kanou really disliked how the CCG used to do things back when the Washuus were still the ones having power, which is why he betrayed and went as far as to join Aogiri to keep experimenting.

Hopefully, it will be made clearer soon if I can reread all the things I want to reread before next weekend. Sorry for all the rambling, I hope it answers your question.

Have a nice weekend!

This would also explain why Kimi decided to join him. Because she still wants to be together with Nishiki.

Now I’m getting curious about Kanou, if he ever found out that Kaneki (his masterpiece) will have a hybrid kid sometime in the future… if the oggai don’t destroy that.

Ah, excellent point! I know there is a theory that Kimi might be dead (and revived by Kanou), but it doesn’t seem to entirely work when it comes to the timeline. Anyway, the great wheel act explained Kimi’s motivations before…

So if Kanou is indeed working to introduce coexistence into this world, that would explain why Kimi would join him, despite his terrible methods.

Also, I can’t help but tie what Kanou once said about “the hidden reality” to what Itori also said a long time ago…

So if V/the Washuus truly locked the world into “this twisted cage” (aka ghouls and humans not being allowed to mix/live together) back when they fought against the previous OEG (the one before Eto), and held onto their equilibrium ever since, there is a chance that things between humans and ghouls were different at the time of the previous OEG.

That would explain why…

…these kids think they’re “humans” and in that case this theory by @kingkishou might also be accurate.

Also about Touka’s pregnancy, I might be biased, but I believe finding a way to make it viable would make it possible for a hybrid child to have a real place into this world for the first time and that would be another good indicator of things changing.

Anyway, I promise I’ll try to reread TG in its integrity next week, to see if the pieces all fit. Thanks for your input! 🙂

So if kaneki is aging very rapidly, I guess it’s right to assume the same is happening to the other experiments like Seidou and Kurona. If that’s the case, wouldn’t the same apply to the Oggai and possibly the Quinckes? To add on this, is Kanou aware of the aging? (not that he probably cares) Maybe after all this time, he could provide a solution to this issue (again, not likely but there’s that chance) leading me to wonder if they’ll be forced to ask for his aid.

Hello! Yes, it is indeed very likely for at least Seidou (since he was tortured like crazy by Kanou to “make a new Kaneki”), if not for all the other artificial OEGs of the series to have a similar issue to Kaneki’s, although I think the Qs are different, because they are protected by the different frames around the kakuhou that they release one after the other.

And yep, Kanou definitely is aware of the aging problem but he doesn’t seem to care as long as he can experiment…

So it’s definitely not good news for Seidou (which is why I’m hoping he and Akira and Amon will talk before it’s too late). Kurona is probably in a similar state, when you see how crazy she was until the Rushima arc

Amon apparently cannibalized to survive however…

so he’s probably less at risk than the others for now, if Nishiki’s reasoning is accurate.

Finally about the Qs, the way they were operated on certainly is peculiar and taught Kanou a great deal…

so it’s possible that Kanou might have found a different way to create artificial OEGs without the aging problem. At this point, I’m thinking that the frames that the Qs have might be one solution to the issue, since unless they completely break through the frames around the kakuhou, they can eat human food and remain with a stable Rc cells rate (which is why they’re not described as OEGs in the first place).

Besides, Kanou certainly improved when you see how the Oggai are made…

not with 5 frames, but only with two (A and B, switching from one kakugan to two).

Going further, it’s just a theory of mine at this point, but maybe Kanou and Furuta have been getting along for a while, because ultimately Kanou is trying to find a way to solve the aging issues for the hybrid kids who are from the Sunlit Garden (seeing as Furuta is one himself and we know they’re bound to be slaves to the CCG).

You see, Kanou once explained this back in TG…

so we know that his research is linked to “the regenerating and propagating abilities continuing as long as the nutrient supply isn’t eradicated”, which directly ties to the telomere issues for the artificial OEGs like Kaneki…

…since Kaneki, because he’s originally human, can’t keep on regenerating forever because it’s speeding his aging process along (although, note how Kanou refers to Kaneki as a model to recreate, so again, between that and Eto giving him a gift after the Roze arc, I’m pretty sure there is something to uncover here).

I intend on rereading TG and :Re for all the biological explanations during next week if I find the time, so my ideas will surely be more refined then, but basically, this is what Kanou once said to Kurona…

And I think that Kanou’s ghoulification research is probably about finding a “cure” to the following problem…

…because most of hybrid beings suffer from this (seeing as cases like Eto, who are naturally born as one eyed ghouls and thus not having the aging problem, are very rare) and it also represents the supposed inability for ghouls and humans to coexist with each other, which in turn is the reason why the world is locked in a twisted cage.

Remember that V was apparently formed to eradicate the threat of the previous OEG (who was surely a naturally born one eyed ghoul, like Eto)…

and ever since then, without any OEG until Eto, the world rested onto a twisted “equilibrium” (apparently enforced by V): ghouls and humans being two different parts of the same world but never being allowed to mix, and even if they did, the hybrid children resulting of this union wouldn’t live long anyway.

So I’m thinking maybe Kanou, to break free from the twisted cage built along with this “equilibrium” (aka ghouls and humans can’t coexist because too different), is trying to find a way to reduce/eliminate the differences between ghouls and humans on a biological level, so that the pretext that they are two different species unable to live together won’t hold anymore.
Which in turn will make way for coexistence, especially if Furuta makes sure to become a super villain that needs to be defeated by a big hero (Kaneki).

And guess who is the ghoul who’s currently pregnant with a hybrid baby?

Somehow it all ties back to a similar plot thread. There is a link between humans and ghouls, but there are also differences to understand before coexistence starts being possible, and I think that’s what Kanou’s awful experiments were about from the beginning.

As I said though, it’s a very big theory and I need to refine it a little by rereading every part about TG biology next week if I find the time.
…All that to say there is a high chance that Kanou isn’t this senseless asshole that everyone made him to be and, if Furuta and him have been pals for so long, it’s probably because they see eye to eye about this world being twisted and not the way it should be…

And it would explain why Kanou really disliked how the CCG used to do things back when the Washuus were still the ones having power, which is why he betrayed and went as far as to join Aogiri to keep experimenting.

Hopefully, it will be made clearer soon if I can reread all the things I want to reread before next weekend. Sorry for all the rambling, I hope it answers your question.

Have a nice weekend!

I think Shao was looking at Urie and Saiko in a funny way in Ch132. What are the chances she’s keeping an eye on them for Furuta?

Hello Anon! And possible, if just because she’s from the Sunlit Garden too.

However, even if it’s a possibility, I’m not entirely sure of how likely it is for two reasons:

1) She seems genuinely fond of Saiko

2) Urie’s true intentions were only conveyed to Saiko, he made extra sure that there was no one else with her when he told her that “they’d become terrorists” as a last resort.

So as with everything, it’s possible that she might be spying for Furuta or rather for V, since she’s from the Garden, but I’m not extra sure, especially since Furuta himself is hiding tons of things from V (like how he did the ghoulification operation for example). It’s definitely a very good idea though, I hadn’t considered it at all. :))

Thanks for sharing Anon and have a nice day! ^^

Hello! And yes Mutsuki indeed still has a room and supposedly still lives at the chateau but…

Apparently Mutsuki rarely comes home anymore and it’s indeed be a while since we last saw Aura or them at the chateau.

However…

…considering their letter to Kaneki, it looks like they still go back from time to time (but whether it is because of what Urie said or something else, I really can’t say, sorry), so I’d say they’re supposed to be living there and I have no idea where they go if they don’t sleep at the chateau.

I hope it helps, have a nice day Anon!

The Many World Serpents

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The serpent or the snake is one of the oldest or most widespread mythological symbols. Snakes have been associated with the oldest rituals of humankind, and therefore can represent dual expression of binary ideals, ie, good and evil.

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