hey remember when my two clowning bbies were so fashionable?
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Awww, to each their own style, Anon! 😀 If you want to do it though, that’s already the first step to making your style according to the image you’d like for yourself.
Hey you know how we all figured Uta was a one-eye who tattoo’d his other eye to hide that?
What if he was a one-eyed ghoul, gained a second one from the spores, and they’re permanently active because of dragon.
TY for coming to my TED talk.
Not only that, I think it’s also implied that Furuta and Kaneki may be heading there as well. In the most recent art it’s Kaneki’s human eye that’s obscured and considering the blood it almost looks gauged out.
In contrast to say this, where Kaneki was clearly keeping only his human eye uncovered.
Whereas Furuta shares the same pattern in his art, in his colored cover for “Good News” he has his ghoul eye exposed and his human one obscured.
Then later on in the actual canon we see that Furuta’s ghoul eye is the only one that remains whereas his human eye is scarred as well as the entire left side of his face where his human eye once was.
It makes me wonder if the caption for Furuta’s colored page is relevant. “You’re going to continue on living? But you’ve never even experienced death.” Both One Eyed Kings are shown at point despite being ghouls themselves presenting themselves as more human than ghoul for various reasons.
So perhaps it’s a karmic consequence for the two of them for seeing themselves as more human than ghoul, that they end up losing their one remaining human eye.
The One Eyed King being a flawed title to begin with for those seeking to build a world of cooperation between humans and ghouls, as it relies on power and standing above others to accomplish that rather than communication and understanding of those around you. It’d be interesting then if all of the ones who have called themselves one eyed kings, can no longer be one eyed anymore by the end of this.
(Also the Odin symbolism, Kaneki having to gauge out his human eye and sacrifice it to finally be able to understand ghouls like he’s wanted to since the beginning of the series and not just the limited view he currently has).
(Also also, this could be what Uta’s role is if he truly is the original one eyed king. He’s associated with the sun tarot and illumination, and therefore he could guide Kaneki into realizing and accepting his place in the ghoul world instead of trying to rise above it as a king, just as Uta once did and Uta also craves to be in the center of things rather at the outskirts where he feels he belongs.)
(Also 3x combination, Uta is also quite literally eating an eyeball in the scene where his sun tattoo is first revealed as well).
Tinfoil hat, I would love it. As much as I want the original OEK to be Itori this does imply it’s Uta:
That just looks like Uta to me. (Donato=another possibility though.)
That being said, the vessel and nucleus idea you suggest is verrrry interesting and I would certainly not mind it–Itori’s mask seems unlikely to be random, after all. And if Itori and Uta do know more about how it worked last time (pretty likely) that could provide incentive for them to show up and warn people about what might really be going on–well not really the CCG, but certain people like Yomo.
@hamliet thank you for paging me, Kate-chan and Anon! :3
Actually, I kinda reblogged and added some thoughts on this very subject this morning (but OP is to thank for making a post about it in the first place ’cause I was too lazy to make my own) so yeah, I agree with Kate-chan that hints logically seem to lead to Uta for the moment.
I won’t lie tho, I’m such a fan of the Uta/Itori dynamic and the link they seem to share (+ Itori is such a lovely mystery too) that I did consider the same thing as Anon initially and frankly I’m not 100% ready to let go of this crack theory, namely because of Itori’s mask hinting that she’s a big player too.
Besides, didn’t Sensei just blow everything out of the water by revealing that Rize (and not Kaneki) was Dragon this week? So who knows, after all the snake on Uta’s tattoo has two heads and it would make more sense for Uta’s tattoos to be about 100 years ago than about the present (which was still the future for him when he got those tattoos). x)
Uta alone just makes more sense for now because (I think) it’s about having the same kakuhou (which is the case with Kaneki & Rize but maybe not Uta and Itori since I doubt they’re even the same RC cell types). Maybe. Ah well, who knows 😀
Here’s a short not well articulated kinda drunk sounding theory. It’s more like a collection of ideas really… I read a few theories and was also personally thinking about how Kaneki’s body is being purposefully used and then discarded only as kind of breeding vessel for a new phase and life cycle of dragon. And story wise that makes sense but I think that’s possibly only really because the natural process was kinda hijacked by using an artificial ghoul not because it’s natural for the life cycle of the dragon to truly kill the host.
Because I mean… Kaneki is an artificial dragon. In the case of the original OEK dragon (Well… it was called “Serpent" or Naga but same kind of being) the kakuhou and it’s DNA actually belonged to the natural born OEK, meaning the dragon was probably just trying to make a new clone of itself. (Probably Uta)
Like some weird fungus that feed off itself and tries to remake it’s host (which is also itself in the case of a ghoul) as well as creating more of itself. (What if it was turning humans into ghoul’s with it’s genetics so it could continue feeding on it’s own genetics like what triggered it’s creation in the first place)
Maybe the reason Kaneki probably doesn’t seem to have healed is probably because the dragon is supposed to recreate itself at the end of it’s life cycle since it’s original form is left worn out by the process. (Maybe in some weird biological attempt for the half ghoul body to rid itself of it’s human-ness it just kinda explodes in a mass of confused genetic data when confronted with an excess of it’s own RC cells and kakuhou and then recreates it’s self as a “pure” ghoul and all Kaneki’s human data was thrown out after numerous failed recreations though I have zero proof of that, I said this sounded drunk, I know only very little about biology also it doesn’t explain the “spores” turning humans into ghouls)
So even though it seems like it might have made some attempt to recreate him (see all the lifeless clones in the eye/eggs) probably because he was dragon’s originator and his kakuhou does (or did) seemingly store his genetic data perfectly enough to literally regrow parts of his brain with their memories intact (maybe it didn’t work recreating him for the same reason his arms didn’t grow back right his body was wearing down and the genetic copies were corrupted. Though if Nishiki’s theory about the telomeres being lengthened by a large influx of RC cells this concept it bull shit)
Unfortunately for Kaneki his kakuhou isn’t truly his and the kakuhou’s in the Furuta coffin children squad and “nucleus” definitely weren’t.
Or maybe Rize literally regrew from the nucleus in primordial soup of her own DNA and her RC cells that was dragon despite Kaneki being the dominate copy it tried to make initially. Maybe that’s why it remade her perfectly. IDK Because there had to be some precedence for the creation of the egg for Furuta to know about but I doubt the “nucleus” (whatever the fuck that is) of the original OEK was separate from him and then consumed and yet the egg was probably still somehow created if Furuta knew about it as a possibility.
Finishing writing this I can think of numerous reasons why saying all of this makes no sense and I’m just sort of spitting what comes in my head without researching because it’s 3 am and I can’t sleep. But maybe this will at least trigger a thought in someone else.
@littlemissymonster actually, this makes a lot of sense to me and this saves me the trouble of making a post because this is basically what I think too. 🙂
I agree with you, there should be yet another parallel between what Kaneki became in the current arc vs what happened with the Nagaraj 100 years ago, especially since Furuta admitted to being inspired by a legend/fairy tale…
except that as you said, where Furuta was expecting Rize to be “reborn” (because it was Rize’s kakuhou in the first place), the same OEG probably was recreated from the Nagaraj 100 years ago.
Here’s the thing for me: I find it’s really interesting that the kakuja tried to pull Kaneki back in…
…because it means that Kaneki being saved from his kakuja is just really the result of a big luck (starting from Tsukiyama being able to gather so many metal detecting devices in record time to the Qs helping Touka). Whereas 100 years ago…
…the original One Eyed Washuu very probably couldn’t be extracted from his kakuja which led to it turning into stone after its eyeballs were destroyed.
In other words, this is how I’d sum up this possibility based on a parallel between the Nagaraj and huge kakuja!Kaneki…
In fact I wouldn’t be surprised if Uta was “reborn” more than just once over the last 100 years, considering the flashback with Yomo (assuming he told the truth to Kaneki of course) + stuff like gasmask86 and it works also regarding those clones both he and Kaneki are able to make…
The biology details for how/why Rize could be reborn from Kaneki + the Oggai are a bit lost on me right now (even if I think that Kaneki not looking so well is possibly because all that he ate was used to fuel the kakuja and maybe recreate Rize), but if ghoulism is akin to parasitism, in the end it’s not so surprising that Sensei would introduce a life cycle (based on monoxenous development).
I’m sure Furuta or someone else will explain soon anyway but it’s fun to consider ideas. :))
Hi Anon and aww, please don’t depreciate yourself, it’s totally okay to ask!! :3
I’ll redirect you towards @mawjaw though, since it’s their post in the first place and they might want to expand more on my little summary.
The initial theory was just that it seems a lot of the story can be “predicted” using Uta’s many tattoos (whether it’s because Uta is a troll or that similar events happened 100 years ago, we don’t know yet) and @mawjaw just pointed out that we could see a phoenix amongst the skull king, double-headed snake, kitsune and cross.
Still according to them, it seems the phoenix is the dragon’s (the double-headed snake in Uta’s tattoo) counterpart in feng shui symbolism, which is why they were wondering if maybe Touka couldn’t be what this tattoo is hinting at, to which I added that I really enjoyed the idea because:
Touka is a ukaku and ukaku are more correlated to birds or butterflies than the other Rc types
Sensei described Kaneki and Touka as a set several times, Touka can be seen as a foil to Rize and, also as we were discussing, it seems that the double-headed snake is hinting to be representing Kaneki and Rize.
Overall, it’s just symbolism, nothing particularly tangible or about Touka rising from her own ashes like a real phoenix (although never say never with Sensei), and it’s only interesting if you think there is a possibility that Uta’s tattoos actually foreshadow the whole story!
To be honest though, seeing as Rize is actually the “Dragon” Furuta was talking about and that Hide is still fishy with what seems to be a link to the 24th ward…
…I’m taking this “Touka-as-a-phoenix-being-a-counterpart-to-the-double-headed-snake-representing-Kaneki-and-Rize” probably more seriously than I should. x)
Please don’t hesitate to ask @mawjaw for more details, I’m probably overlooking some stuff!!
so I guess Rc cells from Dragon are coming into contact with humans (airborne cells being inhaled perhaps?) and since they are capable of seeding and spreading throughout the body, this is how they’re creating new ghouls? If Donato can create an entire clone body from his pinky finger then a single Rc cell has the potential to multiply and form a kakuhou organ, Rc pathways, etc.
@coromoor Yes this is what I’m thinking too. The fact that those cells are actually pluripotent…
is probably why the humans don’t end up with a ROS condition like Shirazu’s sister but in fact become ghouls because those special Rc cells lead to the formation of a kakuhou organ (as well as Rc pathways).
I also stand by my theory that Donato probably got his own cloning abilities from Uta (I was considering kagune graft back then, like what apparently happened between Karren and Eto, but maybe it was an airborne process too), which would explain why they’re both able to recreate an entire body from almost nothing, especially since Donato couldn’t create a clone of himself to escape the CCG 18 years ago.
I’ve seen a lot of stuff about the obvious dragons and kitsune but I don’t recall seeing anything about the phoenix nestled in there too.
They’re the dragon’s counterpart in feng shui symbolism
I wonder who the phoenix could possibly be >:)c
@mawjaw sorry, reblogging again, I’m totally in love with the Touka = Uta’s phoenix tattoo theory, especially since I found proof that
the double headed snake of Uta’s tattoo
is very probably supposed to hint at Kaneki & Rize indeed…
…thanks to that infinity/eight pattern on the Oggai but also on Saiko’s mask made by Uta that @hamliet reminded me of earlier last week.
Seriously I wish I could hate Uta for knowing everything and having represented the whole story in his tattoo set but… I’m afraid I can’t help loving him even more.
Ahhh true true!
Circle’s are also a reoccuring theme across the more ~mysterious~ characters, like the 24th warders and Noro!
AHHHHHH @mawjaw I almost forgot, this is killing me, the three freaking dots/circles thanks for reminding me…
I really hope I’m seeing things here because otherwise I want to know if literally similar events happened 100 years ago or if Uta is just able to know everything because he’s a huge troll.
sensei biology arc or answers i don’t care just stop teasing us like that !!!
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