GUYS I’M SO MOVED, seriously I wanted this insight for years, because the veil has finally lifted and the truth came out!! 

All the times we heard the Clowns talking about their group, it was always…

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…as them pretending to be the audience, as if they were pulling the strings or observing the show rather than having any role on stage, but Itori literally dropped the mask and admitted otherwise. 

They always belonged in that big play that is TG, just like everyone else. Obviously they would, since they all agree that it’s boring and lonely to remain on the side, it’s just that since it’s hard for them to find warmth along with the rest of the cast, they’d rather act as if they were the audience in the first place.

As for the “Clowns’ raison d’être” line for next week if Editor-san wasn’t pranked by Sensei, I’m 100% convinced that this has to do with what happened 100 years ago (or with the second OEG of the timeline & V), because Roma made a similar allusion just before dying…

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So whatever the reason is that Itori said that she’s seen and heard too much to forget that this world would never accept them (implying she’s indeed an “old lady”), it’s probably leading us back to what started it all:

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And actually it’s super funny when you consider how the chapter literally ended up with Uta going kakuja on us, I mean, it’s not like there aren’t some mysteries around his character at all

obvious Itori set up is obvious, I couldn’t agree more.

randomthoughtpatterns:

Ishida can draw beautiful expressions. Itori’s face is just amazing and it would be good to get confirmation about her losing someone. As soon as it’s become apparent Uta was a Washuu (yes I am dying on this hill) it also became apparent Itori might well have been of a similar status to Rize. So that should be interesting, if explored.

But I just wish Uta wouldn’t express this particular sentiment in the middle of Donato’s battle, who really can’t use it, like, at all. Boo fucking hoo, Uta, he ate a churchful of children.

@randomthoughtpatterns oh she most likely lost someone, this was made rather clear from her first introduction onward, but I’m still thinking that a part of her own involvement currently is related to Uta himself, hence another reason for the expression she had when she heard him say that (especially after something she said in ch148).

Not to worry about Uta being a Washuu, I’ve been agreeing for a year or so, same for Itori being a parallel to Rize (the breeder theory) and possibly Touka, depending on what exactly she meant in ch148 and the nature of her knowledge about hybrid babies (in my opinion).

Anyway, when it comes to Donato, I 100% agree with you that the timing seems a bit too ironic, but then again, from where I stand, this seemed like the perfect moment to bring that up. It was implied during his fight against Urie that Donato lost what he held dear more than one time, so on that aspect he fits for the description of the Clowns that Uta gave. 

On the other hand though, the fact that Donato’s horrible actions were barely ever touched upon until now is what creates the irony in Uta’s Itori’s statement, because it hints that Donato might as well pay for it at the end of his fight against Amon

(amongst other hints), just like Roma already did and Furuta might. 

In the end, amongst the Clowns, Itori, Nico and Uta are the only ones who really showed that sentiment that Uta Itori echoed on. Roma almost did, but not enough to have a reason to survive going all out and since Donato sees himself to be not “as sentimental” as Uta on this subject, well, he might as well not have any way to be forgiven for what he did. 

hamliet:

midnight-in-town:

midnight-in-town:

midnight-in-town:

It seems my man is hungry xDDD

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OH YEAH I’M SURE I MEAN DO YOU REMEMBER WHAT HE WAS SHOWN EATING IN THAT FLASHBACK OF VOL12??? @hamliet

He sure seems to like those xDDDD

“I always wanted to eat you. Make me feel alive” [x]

Yomo loves you Uta… I need it.

No but for real this isn’t going to end with one killing the other. They can’t do it and I also think what Uta says to Yomo about wanting to feel alive is key to the entire series. Uta is alive but he doesn’t feel that way (hello Kaneki and Furuta parallel). He told Donato in 116 that he preferred to live life on the outskirts because he couldn’t connect with people. He’s rationalizing his frustration at Yomo not understanding him (because he similarly doesn’t understand Yomo and can’t understand people in general–and that lack of understanding/empathy means he can’t feel alive because TG is all about connection between people) by saying he will eat Yomo and he’s always wanted to, when we know that’s bullshit.

The solution to someone feeling unable to connect isn’t going to be die because you can’t connect. Uta has got to learn to live with people regardless of whether he’s the Nagaraj or not. And anyways people who have those who care about them tend to find connection so I’m so not worried lol.

Hmm, sorry but I think there is a mistranslation in whatever translation you read for ch116 @hamliet because actually what he said was…

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…the opposite. He wants to stay in the thick of it precisely because it’s lonely to be on the sides.

However otherwise, I agree that Uta’s main problem is that…

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…he’s been treated like a reprobate all his life (the reason for that still unconfirmed), which is why he possibly said something about “wanting to feel alive” through flipping his switch and going all out against Yomo. 

Maybe he took Yomo’s words a little too at heart indeed, because he sees Yomo as a friend and Yomo said he can’t understand him, but I doubt Uta is the one who lacks empathy in general here.
Rather he feels he can’t connect to others despite probably being able to/wanting to, precisely because he’s been treated for a long time by others as a reprobate, at least that’s my opinion. 

It’s not just a view of the mind in his case, that’s what I mean. 🙂

Anyway, I don’t think that what you said (which is the most likely conclusion of this fight, I agree at least with that xD) will come from Yomo, or at least not just. 

I actually really dislike writing a post before having read a full chapter, so I will just say that I saw & read a spoiler that is possibly confirming another theory that I wrote for ch148. More on that later, but I felt bad leaving you with a mistranslation. :3

Is Uta the “Nagaraj”? Or simply a OEG? (recap post)

midnight-in-town:

It’s been a main theory on my blog for the past week but since I ended up answering many different Anons, here’s a recap post about this theory.
Please keep in mind it’s just a theory so it’s completely unconfirmed and it also implies that all the Clowns (Furuta and Shikorae aside) are older than they look.

Please make sure to check the links first in case you have a question. 🙂


EDIT: post ch144


EDIT: post ch150

EDIT: post ch160

Reblogging because we might finally be addressing this subject in the next chapters (whether it is to deny or confirm it, whatever, I’m so happy :D), so here’s a collection of all my different theories about Uta & the One Eyed Washuu ever since August (without mentioning all those I reblogged that you can find through Uta’s tag). 

Some links above are probably outdated on some parts, some theories contradict each other because clearly I couldn’t make up my mind about one version of the theory, but the latest posts added are probably the most accurate ones. If you want to address this subject, my askbox is open! 

See you all on Monday! 😀

An interesting catch(not mine) regarding Uta in latest chapter

eto-when-and-where:

(Credits to @onlythebestnothingless who brought this up in our little private conversation.)

She pointed out how background in Uta’s last panel is smilar to background OEK had back in chapter 51 of first manga.

Obviously this might not mean nothing (it is not uncommon for backgrounds to be overused in manga) but at same time I think this should not be overlooked due theory that Uta might be Underground King (originally created by @midnight-in-town).

I thought this catch of hers was too interesting and it would be crime not to share this since I haven’t noticed anybody else mentioning this as well.

Rn, Yomo v Uta, who wins? I think Uta 100% if he actually tries but who knows maybe they’ll just kiss and it’ll be the thing no one saw coming

k-kuja:

Uta, definitely, if he were to put sentimentality to the side (but he won’t) – we still haven’t seen him properly fight but I’ll physically eat all 28+ volumes of this manga if he’s not stronger and smarter in battle than his buddy. I do think everyone’s grossly underestimating Renji though, I’m fully expecting Uta to struggle a little. He’ll still come out on top though. I violently do not want him to play his trump card; if I see arata!Uta or touka!Uta, I’ll never recover.

For what it’s worth though, I don’t think either will ‘win’ per se, and I definitely don’t think either will die. Best guess? Rough battle, really sad dialogue that will have my heart bustin’ out my chest, hopefully an origin story or massive Uta reveal, both left bloody messes, Itori intervenes and ends it, #TeamPierrot take off.

I wanna see two (2) horrifying, beautiful kakuja monsters.

waraupiero:

catsoul2:

Uta once pointed out how much he enjoyed by fighting against Yomo, and if he kills Yomo which he most likely can, there won’t be any person who Uta will enjoy figthing together once more. Which I even don’t even think of Yomo dying at his best friend’s hands at all. Why didn’t he already kill him off despite he got a lot of chance of it and saved him during the anteiku and oggai raid? Because he’s his friend and I guess he’s the first and last person who Uta ever mentioned someone as “friend” :’)))

You won’t kill him Uta, you care about him so much that you can even dare to sacrifice yourself for his sake :’)

this is definitely true. i think there might be stronger ghouls out there than yomo (various experiment subjects, kakuja, etc.) but the fun part about fighting yomo is that

  1. he is more resilient and heals faster than other ghouls. also, his defenses are pretty solid and he never flags in his offense either. he’s no kakuja but that means he can move faster and react faster. as mutsuki said, he is ‘a ghoul without flaws’
  2. also, yomo is the person who has fought with uta for the longest time and survived. if uta has any weaknesses or ticks, yomo definitely knows about them

so, in a way, fighting yomo is like solving a puzzle. how do you crack the perfect puzzle? it’s also like playing chess – how will you counter his attacks, feints, mind games? it’s such great fun, and it doesn’t make sense to throw a game away once you finish playing it. you can always start over again, and it’ll always be a little different (and a little harder, since yomo will definitely learn something new every time).

moreover, as much as yomo likes forging connections, so does uta. yomo likes connections because they remind him that his life isn’t meaningless; uta likes connections because it makes his life more interesting. he likes being connected to people, to events, to all sorts of information and plans – which is why he joins the clowns, and also why despite being in the clowns he visits :re and even discusses possible agendas of the clowns with them (tg:re vol. 4).

yomo is his connection to that world, and if he loses yomo he’ll be losing half of his (current, as far as i know) world. things would, predictably, get boring. this is the opposite of what he would want if he truly wants to ‘be involved’ and have all of his nail-polished fingers in a pie.

also, uta is lonely. he’s so lonely that he’s willing to come out of his ‘retirement’ from the action (as a mask maker) and join in on the Big Action. donato calls him ‘emotional’ / ‘sentimental’ for being this way. if he’s this lonely + sentimental, then losing yomo would also be a big personal hit for him. i’m not sure how closely he’s affiliated with the clowns’ agenda (i doubt he’s very loyal to whatever cause they have, for the moment being) (i doubt uta’s loyal to anything tbh), but it doesn’t seem like he’d be attached to the clowns enough to kill his best friend.

I Don’t Understand You

linkspooky:

So this chapter ends with the starts of two more fights. As I said to begin with, considering the clowns are only playing a game to buy time they’re at an inherent advantage because they’re more self aware than the flimsy CCG vs Ghoul alliance who are all repressing their issues in order to work together, and really have no figured out any solid motivation besides “stop the bad guys.”

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For a quick example the confrontation with Kaiko brought up a lot of relevant questions. Is it fair that half humans have to live half lifespans with no chance of extending it, or should something risky like ghoulifying Yusa be done to help extend his own lifespan? How exactly is the harsh way Kaiko trained Arima any different from the way Arima trained the likes of Kaneki, Take and Yusa? What exactly did Arima sacrifice himself for if he could have extended his life a few months later, and what is his legacy now? Is Yusa only defined by Arima’s legacy?

And Yusa received the answer to a whole none of those questions. He’s just urged to keep fighting and keep surviving, because that is literally all the main characters are capable of envisioning at this point. 

So, that being said there’s no way the two current fights can turn out in anything better than a draw, because the two characters choosing to confront the clowns are those that understand them the least. 

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Despite the fact that Amon was ghoulified literally so he could understand that 1) not all ghouls are Donato and 2) that a ghoul as wretched who ate as much as Donato could eat human meat but somehow love him at the same time because ghouls have human minds and emotions, Amon has not mentioned Donato once or even the comparison to Donato for 168 chapters of :Re. 

If you look back to the rooftop conversation with Amon and Donato, while neither of them changed their views, the conversation did a good job of illuminating the fact that both of them held self-righteous and flimsy beliefs. Kaneki said he didn’t care about the vast majority of people and only did this for his friends, and Amon said he did not care about ghouls and does not think the beliefs he held at the time of being an investigator was wrong. 

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The point is that Kaneki was called out by the plot for holding such a false and self righteous belief. He was picked apart line by line in order to point out that yes, he actually does have to care about things besides the people who are directly around him because his actions have greater reaching consequences than that.

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In Kaneki’s case the beliefs he held on his rooftop conversation with Amon turned out to be a bad thing. So it should stand to reason that Amon should face a similar consequence for his willful ignorance. 

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Amon and Kaneki are continually put on pedestals and held up as heroes, when in reality both of them are just traumatized children trying to survive. The problem is in their coping they’ve killed a lot of people, Amon killed many in his time as a human, and then once he became a ghoul he turned into some kind of cannibal according to Urie’s observation. 

Both of them see ghoul life as expendable, and for Amon the root issue with this cause has always been Donato, which will be the perfect instance to challenge his hypocrisy on this part. 

Amon has to lose to Donato, I don’t think there’s a single Amon fan who actally wants him to win. Donato represents the ghoul part of Amon, and his demonization of ghouls which he has not at all come to terms with. Amon in this chapter even acts the same as ever.

He comes dramatically blazing in swinging his quinque (he’s still using a quinque even though he’s a half ghoul). He even attacks almost the same way he did on his reintroduction in Rueshima, with the exception of this time Donato sees him coming ahead of time and blocks him easily. 

Amon’s hero act should fail him at this point. 

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Pretty much everything Amon has said in the build up to this fight is that he doesn’t actually want to understand ghouls. He doesn’t want to understand his existence of a ghoul. All he wants is to return to the time where he could easily fight at the CCG without questioning himself. 

Him and Akira are both offered illusory returns to the CCG when they were finally beginning to break away and form their own identities, the same way Kaneki was offered an illusory return to his home of Anteiku. Except Kaneki’s illusion was only enertained for so long, it burned apart right in front of his eyes and logically the same should follow for the two of them. 

There’s two things that Donato could say that could easily tear apart Amon’s resolve right here. 

1)  The Person Amon is fighting for right now, Kaneki the symbol of their alliance is somebody who ate children just as Donato did. Not only that the first child he ate was Hajime Hazuki, the child Amon was inspired to save all those years ago.

2) The person Amon holds so close to his heart, Mado Kureo is really just a parallel of Donato that the CCG told Amon it was acceptable for him to like. Kureo was a sadist, who among other things targeted and enjoyed the pain of a child and Amon stood by his side and watched, feeling himself justified because the child he was targeting was a ghoul child rather than an innocent human. 

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Most importantly that Donato and Amon do love each other. As this is fundamentally unresolved about Amon there’s really no way he’s going to come to grips with it in the middle of a fight.

Finally, Renji and Yomo. This is going to be short but basically, Yomo’s words right here are the epitome of everything wrong with the Goat/Human alliance right now. 

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“I’ve never really understood you, and I still don’t, but I’m still going to stop you.”

How exactly Renji, are you going to beat an enemy you don’t understand? That is the question, and Renji has delayed this confrontation with Uta as long as Donato has himself with Amon. 

The thing is Yomo has known about Uta’s relation with the clowns since the beginning. He just deliberately chose never to confront him about it. Renji doesn’t understand Uta, because Renji himself never really tried to understand Uta. 

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Uta even tells him to his face, that really the only thing he defines his life by is his own loss. As long as he continues to do that, he’ll only lose others or himself, and Yomo doesn’t come up with a satisfactory answer besides. 

“Watch me Uta, I’m going to sacrifice my life for Touka even harder now.”

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Yomo and Uta are really the embodiment of the tattoo around Uta’s neck. It’s even embodied in their old rivalry. 

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Every single time they got close, they would both pull back because they were too afraid of dying. Their relationship is the same, they could be friends but both of them are too afraid of pulling close. To this day Yomo only barely admits that Uta is a friend, and keeps him as distant as possible. Uta at the same time makes no attempts to get closer because he prefers staying on the edges. 

Yet neither of them can be entirely divorced from one another either. The two of them both continue to associate with one another, Uta even went so far as to save his life even though they’re now on opposite sides of a conflict. 

I can live neither with you, nor without you. Neither of them can bring themselves to kill the other, but they also don’t want to get close enough to understand each other, because Yomo defines himself entirely by his loss, and the few small family members he has left and Uta defines himself entirely as a reprobate sitting on the outside of things. 

In order to actually get close the both of them would have to broaden their horizons, which both are too cowardly to do. 

Which is why Yomo really can’t win in this situation either. In a manga about understanding and empathy and unerstanding, you can’t defeat an enemy you don’t understand at all, and also have refused to even try to understand up until that point. 

A throwback to the “undesired yet unseparable friendship” that started in the 4th ward

Or why no one will die, because being friends goes against killing each other, even if Uta finally flips his switch and goes all out. 

First of all, remember, the Clowns are currently playing for time…

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…so one might as well make it a little interesting, especially since in Uta’s case we’re aware that he

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doesn’t like to be bored, which explains why he would not refuse to face Yomo in a fight. 

However, that doesn’t mean that he’s truly after Yomo’s life either, especially considering that he made extra sure to save him last time in the 24th ward, because he always insisted that they are friends:

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So why would he kill Yomo now, especially when he’s just supposed to buy time, even if Yomo is the one who came to him? 

I know, I know, his grin at the end of the chapter was super creepy and he’s a Clown, but hey it’s nothing new that he always loved fighting with Yomo almost to the death:

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So no worries there, Yomo is strong and Uta has no reason to want to kill him. That is, in theory.

Of course though, if I’m writing this post, it’s because there is still a possibility it may not turn out to be that simple, especially when Uta was implied several times to be rather strong and violent. As far as I know, the One Eyed Washuu/Nagaraj = Uta theory wasn’t debunked yet and Matsuri did say that…

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…which sounds ominous when we’ve never seen a Washuu ghoul fight before. Finally, since Uta’s the one who always withdrew first in the past, it’s possible that he went easy on Yomo back then which, additionally to his creepy grin, isn’t very reassuring. :/

So in case Uta were to enjoy this way too much, finally flip his switch and become uncontrollable…

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as it was possibly foreshadowed more than once before

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…it would then become logical to start fearing for Yomo’s survival, despite how strong Yomo is too.

However, I’m personally still of the idea that Yomo won’t die, even if Uta were to fully give into his violent impulses, which means that there might be someone who might come to Yomo’s rescue eventually if it’s really needed and I currently have three suspects in mind (though one seems more likely than the others for several reasons). 

First, Kaneki but he seems the least likely option, especially since I doubt he just dumped Ayato to end up fighting against Uta on his way back and save Yomo (+ tbh, while I’d love it, I’m really not sure about ever seeing a fight between Kaneki and Uta). So nah. 

Then Touka, because she’s nowhere to be seen in the recent chapters (and she must end up doing something, hopefully), because Yomo was ready to sacrifice himself to buy her time in the 24th ward twice, because Akira might end up going where Uta and Yomo are fighting (since Amon and Donato are there) and Touka could decide to go with her.
Then again, the issue is that I really doubt Touka could hold her own against Uta alone, so maybe Yomo + Touka against Uta could work, buuut not 100% sure. 

As for my most likely suspect…

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one friend of the trio has never been seen fighting but it’s especially interesting that she was precisely depicted as coming right in between Uta and Yomo from the moment she was introduced (cover of TG ch34 just above).

Actually, it’s probably due to having less panel time than the other two, but it seems a lot of readers tend to forget that Itori is also a friend to both guys, on the exact same terms as Uta and Yomo with each other and with her…

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…except that she’s rarely ever into fighting (probably to Uta’s dismay). So anyway, if this chapter’s cliffhanger is really a throwback to Yomo’s time in the 4th ward and his rough start with Uta, well, narratively speaking she could also belong there. :))

Besides, she was also rather clear about having seen her share of their cockfights in the past…

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which could mean that she’s beyond bored of it or that she wouldn’t mind stopping them for once (it did “cause her a lot of trouble” in the past after all). 

Of course, in that case, it’s also natural to question if she’s strong enough to stop these two men in the first place, buuut I actually have Thoughts™ and I think that may precisely be what Sensei is trying to lead us to, because it would create another perfect timing for more answers, this time about Itori’s character. 

In other words, yeah I think she could be strong enough to stop these two men from killing each other, should it be what she wants. xD And she might want to do just that, because the 3 of them are genuine friends:

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TL;DR I think Matsuri was 100% on point in ch151 when he mentioned the Washuu ghoul blood to be “proud and terrible” and I’m actually thrilled we’ll possibly get to witness that for ourselves through Uta finally flipping his own switch.

*ahem* but if that really happens, no worries, Yomo will be A-okay and once this is over, he will be able to go back to sleeping through the rest of the volume in peace. xDDD