Eto is definitely reemerging at some point, but I don’t think this is a sun arc yet. I definitely would put more weight in a connection between Hide and Itori, if Itori had not just given up and walked off bored after Tsukiyama interrupted her.
Though, I’m doubtful this is the final swing of the pendulum when it comes to her character. As I’ve said before though I agree with you anon, that Eto is likely going to become relevant again when Yoshimura’s body also becomes relevant.
Especially since Kanou no longer has any claim over it, considering that he dead. Both Rize and Yoshimura should be relevant at some point unless V takes control of both of them.
I find V’s remarks about Kuzen to be suspicious though, as well as the fact that we’ve never seen what’s in that journal, or even Ukina’s true face. Unlike Hikari who eventually we got to see her full face when Yomo came to terms with her loss.
Considering that Yomo and Yoshimura are such similiar characters with similiar flaws, it makes sense that a similiar revelation of coming to terms with the loss with either Eto or Yoshimura would also prompt a full reveal of Ukina’s face.
There’s also about 700 parallels to Ukina and Kuzen, and the circumstance of Eto’s birth, and the 24th ward that are being paralleled right now between Touka and Kaneki, and both of them seem to be kind of wandering into that parallel blindly without learning the lesson that Yoshimura should have.
All of those are perfectly good reasons for Eto to return to the manga at some point. In fact she’s almost conspicuously absent by now, even though we’ve finally gotten into the old one eyed king and the 24th ward which are both Eto related, and ideas tied heavily to her character.
To explain simply, while thinking about Touka’s pregnancy this afternoon, I realized something I hadn’t noticed before:
See, the reason Touka’s body has the risk to mistakenly recognize the baby as nutrients and absorb it is because, as a ghoul, she feeds on RC cells and…
humans have a low rate of RC cells
=> human meat is edible! (and tasty :D)
ghouls have a high rate of RC cells
=> ghoul meat is edible! (but disgusting, ew :/)
which means that human, ghoul and hybrid babies (like Touka’s) have RC cells too!
..But then in that case (which is what I realized today), how comes that only a hybrid baby has the risk to be mistaken as nutrients by its ghoul mama when a ghoul baby also has RC cells? In other words, why is Touka’s body possibly going to recognize her baby’s RC cells as food when her own RC cells in Hikari’s womb weren’t?
Hi Anon and well, logically that’s what you’d think with what I said above, isn’t it? 🙂 However, since I’m pretty sure that Sensei won’t kill that baby, if somehow I’m correct (big big if there), then there must be a catch somewhere.
I do have a theory to answer you, the problem is that…
Itori possibly losing her own hybrid babies in the past is not 100% helping me.
See, initially with what I explained above, I was considering the following: Touka aside, the common point toall the previous hybrid pregnancies in the story is that the mothers always were humans. Eto’s ghoul parent was Yoshimura…
and for the sunlit garden, the father of every child in there (be it “half human” like Arima, or ghoul like Rize) is from the pure Washuu bloodline who are, as we learnt recently, kakuja ghouls from birth.
However, now we have Touka who is the ghoul parent of her hybrid baby, which makes her case pretty unique so far in the story (Itori aside). Touka who, as a ghoul, is supposed to be eating a lot of RC cells both for her sake and her baby’s, but who also has higher RC cells rates than a human mama, as well as a kakuhou to regulate these high rates.
In other words, her own RC cells needs (and body rates) are different from a human mama carrying a hybrid. That’s why her case is interesting, because the maternal environment that she provides to her hybrid baby is different from what Arima’s mom provided to fetus!Arima, or what Ukina provided to fetus!Eto.
=> so my theory is that the maternal environment during the pregnancy plays a part into the development of the kakuhou for hybrid fetuses.
In the first place, kakuhou development is correlated to high RC cells rates, which is the difference between humans and ghouls as @mawjaw explained here; that’s also why ghouls can develop multiple kakuhou in order to regulate their high RC cells rates, when one kakuhou on its own is overwhelmed.
Anyway, so far in the story, we got numerous examples that a hybrid baby carried by a human mama has more chances to be born as a half human (no kakuhou) than a OEG (kakuhou), and it’s interesting because the human mama herself has low RC cells rates and thus no kakuhou in the first place.
So in Touka’s case, the fact she’s a ghoul means that she needs to eat a lot of RC cells, that she has higher RC cells body rates and a kakuhou, which may just favorize the kakuhou development for her hybrid baby.
In other words, a maternal environment
exposing the hybrid baby
to more RC cells because the mama is a ghoul (or in Ukina’s case, because she ate a loooot of human meat) might just positively influence the development of the baby’s kakuhou (in order for baby to regulate all the RC cells reaching it).
And if Touka’s baby develops a kakuhou, then my theory above that it will protect the baby from being seen as food by Touka’s body works too. 😀
In conclusion, about hybrid pregnancies:
mama = human = no kakuhou
maternal environment = low RC cells rates
=> “half human” baby (no kakuhou) more probable than OEG baby (kakuhou), because no need for baby to regulate RC cells while in the womb => Arima.
unless mama eats a lot of human meat and increases the RC cells rates in the maternal environment => that’d be Ukina & Eto.
mama = ghoul = kakuhou
maternal environment = high RC cells rates
OEG baby (kakuhou) more probable than “half human” baby (no kakuhou) because there is a possible need for baby to regulate RC cells while in the womb
OEG baby’s kakuhou will then provide protection against being seen as food by the ghoul mama’s body
That’s the theory. However, as I was saying, Itori might be failing me here, because TG ch34 seems to imply that she might have lost her own hybrid baby/babies, meaning that it’s probably quite complicated for hybrid pregnancies to succeed at all. So I don’t know
¯_(ツ)_/¯
maybe hybrid pregnancies will fail more often than regular pregnancies in general (which would mean that Itori is right when she says that the chance of successful pregnancy in itself is extremely slim)
but when they’re successful, the baby’s nature as a half human or OEG is strongly correlated to its mama’s nature, because kakuhou development is also
mediated
by maternal environment.
I really think Sensei won’t kill off that baby, so there must be a way for Touka to make her pregnancy viable and I’m just rambling around with all my ideas. :3
Still I hope it made sense, thanks for reading Anon and have a nice weekend. 🙂
Anon-chan, for everyone’s sake I’ll make this extremely simple. :)) If Touka’s baby can be born then, according to the theory above, it means that:
it will most likely be a OEG
it will most likely be heatlhy/okay and Touka & Kaneki will be happy parents!
Here are the two possibilities for Touka’s baby in my opinion, considering what I said above (please keep in mind it’s just a theory and I could be totally wrong):
In terms of probability though, I guess it depends on if you’re taking Itori’s words seriously or not. She said that chances for a successful hybrid pregnancy are slim and frankly, I don’t think she’s lying.
Besides, in a human mama’s case, both half human and OEG babies can be born, it’s just that she’s more likely to have a half human baby than a OEG. Whereas in Touka’s case, in this theory it seems the only way for her baby to survive in her womb is if it’s a OEG, which is what Itori probably meant when she said that chances of success were slim.
I’m sorry it sounds so hella complicated, but I hope this sums things
To explain simply, while thinking about Touka’s pregnancy this afternoon, I realized something I hadn’t noticed before:
See, the reason Touka’s body has the risk to mistakenly recognize the baby as nutrients and absorb it is because, as a ghoul, she feeds on RC cells and…
humans have a low rate of RC cells
=> human meat is edible! (and tasty :D)
ghouls have a high rate of RC cells
=> ghoul meat is edible! (but disgusting, ew :/)
which means that human, ghoul and hybrid babies (like Touka’s) have RC cells too!
..But then in that case (which is what I realized today), how comes that only a hybrid baby has the risk to be mistaken as nutrients by its ghoul mama when a ghoul baby also has RC cells? In other words, why is Touka’s body possibly going to recognize her baby’s RC cells as food when her own RC cells in Hikari’s womb weren’t?
Hi and sure Anon, I didn’t particularly address that in the post above, but I’ll try and use simple words. 🙂
So: Touka (ghoul) + Kaneki (human, even if he got grafted with a ghoul’s kakuhou) => ch125 => hybrid (ghoul + human) baby. The problem is that there aren’t a lot of natural hybrids that are born in the TG universe, so Touka has no idea what she has to do to make sure that her baby will be born healthy and that’s why she told Kaneki that she didn’t know if the baby would be okay, in ch131.
So far, Touka decided to follow Ukina’s example: Ukina, a human, partially ate “like a ghoul” during her whole pregnancy to make sure that fetus!Eto would get enough RC cells and wouldn’t starve to death. So Touka chose to partially eat “like a human” upon discovering she was pregnant, hoping that it would be enough for her own hybrid baby’s survival.
However, as @coromoor explained here, human food (cake, hamburger…) cannot provide RC cells to Touka’s baby. Only human meat or ghoul meat can and that’s not what Touka was shown eating for now (food shortage in the 24th ward sure wasn’t helping :/) which is currently dangerous both for the baby (if it doesn’t get RC cells, it will starve and die) & for her (it is like poison).
The other problem surrounding Touka’s pregnancy is what Itori once said to Kaneki (which is what my post above was trying to give an explanation to), but Touka probably has no idea about that for now.
TL;DR
Hybrid pregnancies in general are rare but it seems hybrid pregnancies with a ghoul mama are more complicated than ones with a human mama, which is why Touka is a bit worried and told Kaneki that the pregnancy might not go well.
I hope it’s understandable? Have a nice weekend Anon. 🙂
That’s precisely it, I think. Freudian stories=overcoming your parents. Kaneki, Touka, and Ayato will overcome the Arata/Hikari/Renji tragedy. They will live, I do think so (Kaneki’s the most likely to die of the three but I still don’t think that’s terribly likely). Kaneki should overcome the tragedy of the first OEK, and Touken should overcome V to not repeat the Kuzen & Ukina tragedy with Eto–aka live to raise their kid. The kid shouldn’t die either.
It’s another reason why I think Mutsuki, Urie, and Saiko should also be saved from this tragedy. Just passing on tragedy means the cycle will repeat itself–or, at least, it always has in TG. The tragic cycles always have repeated themselves after they claimed more victims. Why would we believe that the cycle would be satiated with Mutsuki, Urie, and Saiko? Someone needs to say No More. But to do that they need to face themselves as they truly are and work for it.
The world of tragedy needs to be destroyed and a new one raised up.
if I may, Furuta even said that parallels were bullshit, so to speak…
…because they only meant to prove that the characters didn’t grow up enough to overcome a similar situation that had already happened in the past.
That’s why I totally agree with you. 🙂 First of all, TG was described to be a tragedy from the very first chapter while :Re never was described as a tragedy. On top of this though, we got so many parallels between TG and :Re (which Ishida
recently
debunked the meaning of, using Furuta in ch143) that it’s precisely the reason :Re will probably end on a more joyful note than TG and that most of the characters will succeed where they (or their predecessors) failed in the past.
Hello! And sorry, but no I don’t think so, even if I once considered it, to try and link Ukina to something/someone else in the story besides Yoshimura and V.
I believe that this is just Ishida’s way to show that these two women died a long time ago, to the point that it might be hard for the characters who loved them to remember what they looked like. However I’m hoping that, like with Yomo’s sister, we might learn more about them and see their faces at some point. For Kasuka, it’s not hard, we know Akira is almost the spitting image of her mom, but I’d like to see Ukina’s face, as well as know more about them.
Sorry Anon, for now there is really no hint at all that these two might be related (even if it would be hella cool, if just because that means Eto ate her aunt and #drama) but I can’t blame you for considering it, because I did as well a long time ago. :3
Hello! Well I don’t know about Hide, but I’m really curious about Ukina in general, because a lot of things about her are just… strange. Like…
she was a journalist investigating V and yet she was also a waitress
so I always thought that she had been onto Kuzen from day 1. Which means…
that I’m wondering if Eto’s version is not actually the accurate one, because Yoshimura could never admit to himself that it had been all a lie and that the woman he loved was just using him from day 1.
Anyway, the point is, Ukina has to have come from somewhere because how did a human find out about V? So I’m thinking that she must have a link to someone/something else in the story (Sphinx? Yasuhisa Nanao? Kanou? the “evil ghoulification experiments by the CCG”? at some point I even considered Mado Kasuka) through which she found out about V and started investigating them by approaching Kuzen.
Back to your question, there is a good possibility that Hide might be backed up by someone (considering all the stuff that he knows) just like it’s possible he was acting on his own the whole time (and he has his own info network), so depending on which it is, he might or not know something about Ukina that we don’t.
I have a very old post about Ukina (so everything might not be 100% accurate) if you’re interested, but anyway I’m hoping Sensei will give us more answers about her, because I’m really looking forward to knowing what exactly happened and if she ended up falling in love with Kuzen over time or if Eto was really nothing more than “an unnecessary byproduct” where she was concerned.
Have a nice day Anon!
Hello and of course you can 🙂 That being said, there has been a misunderstanding and I apologize, because there is absolutely no connection at all between Ukina and Kasuka.
All I meant to say was that at some point I was ready to consider literally everything as a possible explanation for how Ukina, a human, found out about V and started to investigate, going as far as to imagine things that were contradicting the timeline of the series (since Ukina died wayyyy before Kasuka).
I’m still hoping that Ukina is linked to something or someone else in the story (aside Eto), as I was explaining above, which would be how she started to investigate V, but I’m still not sure as to who or what it is, or if Sensei will even mention her again.
Sorry for the confusion, I hope it makes more sense explained that way. 🙂
Hello! Well I don’t know about Hide, but I’m really curious about Ukina in general, because a lot of things about her are just… strange. Like…
she was a journalist investigating V and yet she was also a waitress
so I always thought that she had been onto Kuzen from day 1. Which means…
that I’m wondering if Eto’s version is not actually the accurate one, because Yoshimura could never admit to himself that it had been all a lie and that the woman he loved was just using him from day 1.
Anyway, the point is, Ukina has to have come from somewhere because how did a human find out about V? So I’m thinking that she must have a link to someone/something else in the story (Sphinx? Yasuhisa Nanao? Kanou? the “evil ghoulification experiments by the CCG”? at some point I even considered Mado Kasuka) through which she found out about V and started investigating them by approaching Kuzen.
Back to your question, there is a good possibility that Hide might be backed up by someone (considering all the stuff that he knows) just like it’s possible he was acting on his own the whole time (and he has his own info network), so depending on which it is, he might or not know something about Ukina that we don’t.
I have a very old post about Ukina (so everything might not be 100% accurate) if you’re interested, but anyway I’m hoping Sensei will give us more answers about her, because I’m really looking forward to knowing what exactly happened and if she ended up falling in love with Kuzen over time or if Eto was really nothing more than “an unnecessary byproduct” where she was concerned.
I know the chapter isn’t really out yet but I think I have a feeling of what exactly Ishida was going for on the last page. One the last page of Chapter 126 Touka and Kaneki were having a conversation talking about strength as Touka gave Kaneki her fathers wedding ring which she considers her strength. Kaneki tells her that because it’s so special to her he will look to it for strength which cuts to the centipede on the ground. The centipede in many ways however has been a symbol of Kaneki’s delusions of strength. The centipede has been a symbol of his more chaotic nature as it was even his kakuja’s code name in part one. It’s interesting that these two symboles of strength are shown together as one of the many lessons of tg one that Yomo gives is that strength comes from within a person and nothing else.
With that in mind I find the juxtaposition in these two things so amazing as the ring can come off as a pure good luck charm and the other is a symbol of a dark path to strength. Until that is you remember that the ring Touka gave Kaneki belonged to her father whose characterization is that of a man so overcome by grief that he ruined himself to seek strength to get his revenge. Both of these items are signs of the dark path to strength and it gives such an intense sense of foreboding. As not only the centipede but also the ring itself.
I think in many ways it foreshadows a dark future on that will involve something Kaneki loves getting hurt. But considering he just in many ways put all of his happiness on Touka it wouldn’t be shocking if it involved her. I also see it as a return of Kaneki seeking the strength in the most terrible of places for himself mentally leading to his downfall. Which will not be his death but probably the end of goat and his reign as the One-Eyed King.
Excellent point.
See, the thing is, I personally think Kaneki is more likely to be the one getting hurt at this point (because he needs to develop more and he is the MC, because the Clowns love him and he is the OEK, because he’s of interest to Kanou, because it’s easier to imagine him getting wrecked rather than Touka since it happened before) and I also believe that :Re won’t necessarily end tragically (unless there is a third part) but you raise a fair point about Arata’s ring possibly being bad news.
I took the ring as something that will possibly make him remember Touka as he said it would, which could be positive in a similar way as his talk with “Hide” during the Cochlea arc for example, but… it’s true that it is Arata’s ring and that Kaneki parallels Arata.
And Yoshimura. And both saw the women they loved being killed (with Touka having a strong parallel on her own with Ukina and Hikari).
That being said, it might also be that, because Kaneki paralleled them in an obvious way until now, Ishida will decide not to give him and Touka the same fate as Hikari/Arata and Yoshimura/Ukina, thus maybe making Kaneki suffer (for sure) and only indirectly hurting Touka.
Both possibility can happen at this point, and anyway, no matter if Touka or Kaneki are the one who gets it harsh, the other will definitely suffer as a consequence…
Okay so, I actually got a few questions on the subject and I didn’t see anyone making a post about it (please tell me if someone actually did), so I might as well write one quickly. Apologies in advance for those I might slightly spoil about Berserk.
Death flag. I think that’s one of the words I saw the most everywhere that I looked today and frankly, even though I’m generally not bothering so much with death flags, I kind of have to admit that I got worried after reading this chapter because, well, it’s TG. And Ishida-sensei. So we’re used to crazy and violent things happening, especially right after something sweet occured.
But what’s the link with Berserk?
Well, first of all, Sensei made several references to Berserk before, mainly through Amon’s character (please see the following posts: [x] [x]), that were explicit enough to think that he might be a fan of the series.
Second thing, for those who are not familiar with it, Berserk is the story of Guts, a mercenary, who was once sacrificed by his close “friend” so that the latter could be reborn as a very powerful demon entity. Obviously that kind of broke their friendship, especially since the other dude didn’t just try to sacrifice Guts, but also cursed and heavily abused Casca, Guts’ lover, leaving her with a big trauma towards men as well as a regression into insanity.
So anyway (please read Berserk), when it comes to the link between that and :Re ch125, it turns out that a little before Guts and Casca went through absolute hell, they had the opportunity to share a very sweet and intimate moment, exactly like it happened between Touka and Kaneki for this week’s chapter…
…A moment that resulted of Guts and Casca honestly talking for the first time in a while and finally admitting to their feelings for each other, so again, a little like it happened between Kaneki and Touka ever since ch122. EDIT: @lilylunac also saw the similarities between the two scenes! 🙂
Now obviously TG =/= Berserk, Kaneki =/= Guts, Ishida =/= Miura, but the two sensei still have this shared enjoyment that is to constantly inflict pain to their main character as they make them go through many hardships and, as I was saying above, the fact that so many TG readers are now bracing themselves for something terrible to happen, because ch125 was really sweet and positive in comparison to a lot of shit that Kaneki (and Touka) went through, makes me think that we learnt our lesson long ago.
So yes, as it happens, daily happiness never really lasts for long in TG, especially not when Kaneki still has a lot of personal issues to sort out and a lot of self-reflection to do (and especially not when the current main villain is aiming to fly the TG plane into an ocean of blood), but guess what, it’s exactly the same for Berserk, happiness never lasts long for Guts either.
So, it is very probable thatshit will go down soon in TG, if just because we could have an arc paralleling the Anteiku raid arc next, as many fans already explained and as Juuzou also implied…
…which would make the new relationship between Kaneki & Touka (and the sweet chapter of this weekend) the last positive moment to behold (both for us fans and for Kaneki) before Kaneki, Touka and the rest of Kaneki’s side might be separated and hurt/injured by Furuta’s side.
To be honest, I have no idea where TG will start again next week, but here’s what I understand from the recent developments:
Furuta has a good part of the CCG still ready to obey his command
Furuta is loved by most of the public opinion in TG (those fanclubs :/)
The Clowns might fight for Furuta’s side again (unsure)
A parallel to the Anteiku raid arc would mean a lot of blood and possible deaths
Furuta wants to watch the world burn and for Kaneki to die
Meanwhile Kaneki…
has issues to solve and for now doesn’t make for a good leading figure as the OEK
has less manpower than Furuta and way less deadly weapons (as far as we know)
is supposedly dead for a good part of the world, which means he can’t really gain new allies amongst ghouls
might be joined by the Clowns at some point (unsure)
might have CCG deserters (Juuzou, Urie and co) joining him (unsure again)
also Mutsuki is a bit insane and has a real grudge against Touka, which means they’ll face off again, definitely
TL;DR Kaneki doesn’t have the odds in his favor, for now at least, especially since he doesn’t really appear to have a good plan, which is why an arc similar to the Anteiku raid one definitely sounds like bad news and a lot of pain.
To be honest, I don’t know if Sensei really decided to include explicit lovemaking between Kaneki and Touka before shit might really go down as a parallel to Berserk and Guts/Casca, or if he found that the idea of a young love being tried by all sorts of madness was simply interesting, but… there is one more possible parallel that made me think of Gutsca, as I read the new :Re chapter.
See, it’s a spoiler (sorry :/) but Guts and Casca actually conceived a child during that one moment of bliss that they shared, a child that unfortunately got cursed to have a really sad fate, and it just so happens that the cover of :Re ch122…
… triggered many theories about Touka possibly becoming pregnant, with the pregnancy unfortunately not going and ending very well (please read these posts [x] [x]).
Personally, I don’t really have much of an opinion about a possible pregnancy, if just because I don’t know if Kaneki can even reproduce in the first place (that is a very debated question within the fandom), but I have to admit that the pregnancy idea crossed my mind during ch125 more than it did with ch122 because…
the full chapter did remind me of a bittersweet parallel to what happened with Guts/Casca and their baby
So in conclusion, I can’t be certain that Sensei was influenced by Berserk when he decided to write ch125, but I suppose that it could be a possibility considering that he added references to Berserk before. I guess it might depend on what happened next in :Re and on if Touka actually becomes pregnant or not. Also please note that this is a possible parallel of situation, not a parallel of dynamics or of characters.
I hope this post was informative for the few people who were interested by the subject. Feel free to ask if anything is unclear!
Reblogging because I thought a little more about Touka possibly being pregnant and I realized that Touka and Kaneki having a child (even if that sounds too sweet for TG + we don’t even know if Kaneki can reproduce) would make for a real schism with every situation about hybrid children that we got to see throughout TG, so maybe it’s a path that Sensei could decide to follow.
I mean, as the OEK, Kaneki is supposed to fight for coexistence between ghouls and humans, and if there are characters who were a real proof of how unfair and twisted the current world is, it’s the “hybrids”, and by that I don’t just mean Kanou’s One Eyed Ghouls.
I’ll give examples below, but basically it’s a concept that was introduced by Itori at the beginning of TG…
and that Arima expanded on when he told Kaneki about V and the Sunlit Garden:
So we do know that hybrids are rare but possible. However, so far, how were those “hybrids” treated by the world?
I know, ghoul children in general don’t happen to have a very safe life (and look at Kaneki’s childhood, even though he was a human kid) but still, when it comes to Arima, Hairu, Furuta and the other kids from the Sunlit Garden -> in their case, they were all bred together to become ghoul killers without ever being left any choice…
And Furuta even refers to himself and the others as “unfit goods” while laughing, but his reaction when Eto mocked him for not even being acknowledged by his father was pretty telling of his real feelings on the matter…
As for Eto, she didn’t have a better fate since her mother was killed, her father gave her away to the 24th ward to Noro, because he wanted her to be safe from V. However we all know that the 24th ward isn’t a really utopic place to live at and anyway, Eto never had the chance to be with her two parents because of V, which triggered negative feelings towards both of them and herself…
(which is precisely why Yoshimura once asked Kaneki to save Eto by the way, because Eto refused to acknowledge that she ever was loved by anyone which fueled her desire to destroy this world, and that probably includes Tatara’s love as well [x] [x]).
So any child of this story who was born as a hybrid had it tough, no exception so far on the matter (and there might be one or two more hybrids related to the Clowns’ gang that we don’t know yet about, as Uta referred to himself as an outcast + Itori’s expression when she talked about hybrid babies was strange).
But then, or I should rather say now, we have Kaneki and Touka, whose future is obviously very uncertain but for whom pregnancy theories have been going strong ever since ch122 (please see above in the original post for links). Most of these theories conclude that the pregnancy would actually not go or end well, which is a fair point to have in mind since TG can go rough, but considering that…
Kaneki is the OEK, a leading figure that’s supposed to help change this world and make it about coexistence between the two species
He is also one of the strongest ghouls of all Japan now
He is aware of how unfair/twisted this world is and what terrible lives Eto, Arima and other kids from the Sunlit Garden had because of it
As a human kid, he also had an abusive childhood, leaving him desperately longing for love ever since then
One could also mention Touka’s abandonment issues because of what happened to her parents (amongst other things)
… if Touka’s theoretical pregancy were to somehow terminate (I know that it’s a pretty big if), their baby could be the first “hybrid” to have a happier life than any other hybrid children before, which could positively vouch for coexistence to the world’s eye (since the baby would likely be human by Kaneki and ghoul by Touka), on top of Kaneki finally getting the family he always wished for.
Obviously, we’re completely in the realm of possibilities with this post, especially since happiness never lasts very long in TG, so expecting such a sweet and positive development might be too much, but I still felt like pointing it out since, in my opinion, it can still fit whole-heartedly within TG’s story.
I’d like to conclude by pointing out that Kaneki and Touka have been associated before with Touka’s parents but also with Yoshimura and Ukina…
…which would make their theoretical child possibly paralleling Eto; Eto whom Yoshimura asked Kaneki to save (again through bringing coexistence).
So I’m honestly really on the fence here: I didn’t particularly think a pregnancy was likely before this week, but then again, I didn’t expect Ishida to include a full chapter dedicated to Kaneki and Touka finding each other through intimacy so… at this point, I suppose anything is possible and it’s not a development that I would dislike anyway. 🙂
Sorry for the long post, but feel free to leave your thoughts or to ask if anything is unclear!