BTW I still can’t get over the fact that Sorachi-sensei gave us the Love Potion arc, because it’s one of the best written comedy arcs of the whole series: I love how you can either take it at face value and say it doesn’t mean anything, or you can try to see a little beneath the surface and acknowledge how meaningful it is on some aspects, just like all the other comedy arcs. 

Knowing how popular and famous Gintama is, it’s logical that Sorachi-sensei will never voice a clear position about which ships he probably has a soft spot for, but it’s not like he gave an arc or several to all the possible ships of Gintama.
And I’m not talking just about GinTsu.

For example, is it really a coincidence that the other ship getting a lil’ focus in this arc is the love triangle Kondo/Otae/Kyuubei? Is it?
Considering the Dekobokko arc or even, later, Kyuubei’s own resolution along with Tsukuyo’s about being a woman and being in love, during half of ch620? Or even just Kondo’s failed gorilla marriage in the last arc?

I don’t think so. 🙂

(more rambling under read more)

Anyway the whole arc is presented as being comic relief and as not to be taken seriously for those who don’t like the ships it is focusing on (that’s Sensei’s skill right here), but still Sensei subverted the whole thing and that’s what’s so unbelievably cool about this arc. 

Like, I love how the introduction is that “whoever smells the aizen kou drug will fall in love with the first person they see” but even tho’ he applied that to Kagura and Shinpachi for a short while, Sensei ended up throwing even that to the bin, especially when you see how the arc went for Tsukuyo and Kyuubei.

  • The first thing Tsukuyo saw was Gintoki’s dick after she smelled the drug but the whole arc is about realizing her feelings for Gintoki, the man
  • On the contrary, you have Kyuubei who ended up going after dicks for most of the arc (no matter who the guys were), even tho’ I doubt that she actually saw a forest of dicks right after she smelled the drug.  

So it’s interesting how Sensei adjusted the very first rule of the arc to eventually make it about what he wanted to explore for his characters. 

Even when you see the monologues for Otae and Kyuubei, it does seem to reflect what their personal arc is revolving around: Otae always had conflicted feelings to sort out about Kondo; Kyuubei always had this hesitation about whether to live as a man or a woman (until she made her final choice in ch620).

Granted that poor Kondo himself is often reduced to comic relief, but it should be pointed out that his monologue only reached us after Otae kinda manhandled him so, ahem, hard to have any conclusion on what he said, even if it’s not like his feelings about Otae needed any clarification. 🙂

It gets trickier for Gintoki because, on the one hand you could argue that “he smelled so much of the drug that he lost his sense of reason” (something I’m sure a lot of readers who disliked this arc did), but on the other, why shouldn’t he also get serious/honest moments in this arc about his own feelings when everyone else did?

Sensei is just way too good at hiding these moments amidst all the jokes, so that no one can complain about him having a soft spot for a few ships in particular. 

Anyone who’d argue that Gintoki was never serious once in this arc is just shooting their own foot actually, because Tsukuyo acted way unlike herself because of the drug several times and so did Otae, Kyuubei and Kondo. 

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So even though Gintoki did/said stupid stuff because of the drug, if everyone else did too but also got to face/admit about some of their inner feelings, then it’s logical to think that the same happened with Gin. 

And that’s what’s so amazing about how Sensei wrote this arc: I’m not saying that this arc is implying GinTsu is ever going to get canon (tbh I doubt it, even if Tsukuyo is the one who got the most focus about her feelings for Gintoki out of everyone), but to say that Gintoki has literally 0 interest in Tsukuyo would be misreading in my opinion.

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If anything we already know that she’s physically his type (that pool episode/chapter with the Shogun) xD 

Anyway, Gintoki has way too many issues about not wanting things to change + being scared of getting too attached to many people (because of everything that happened with Shoyo and the consequences of his choice back then) that this arc could only go max comic relief in appearance, as far as he was concerned.  

Since the last arc is finally targeting Gintoki’s whole emotional trauma surrounding his choice towards Shoyo back during the war though, I guess that if Sensei wanted, he could choose to hint towards a Gin ship maybe becoming canon at the very end after daily life kicks in again, but as I said I doubt that, mostly because of the massive ship wars (tho I’m also all for Gin/Hasegawa 🙂).  

Final thing: if anyone were to argue that this arc is only comic relief and can’t be taken seriously on some aspects, then I guess they wouldn’t see the homeless arc and its heavy focus on Katsura’s complicated dynamic with Ikumatsu as being literally the same thing but in another context, because Zura just didn’t need the aizen kou.

Just like Hijikata didn’t need it either when it came to Mitsuba. 

tl;dr Sensei is good at crafting the tone of his arcs depending on what he wants to address for his characters and that obviously includes the love potion arc, which is in my opinion one of the best examples of a comedy arc that’s actually hiding a lot of meaningful stuff. 

An arc is hardly ever a stand-alone in Gintama anyway, so the love potion arc can’t be meaningless if what took place ended up having consequences at some later time (like ch620 or even the last arc, post time skip).

Dissecting the narrative isn’t going to lead anywhere: no one “has to” ship Gintsu or enjoy the Kondo/Otae/Kyuubei triangle, but let’s not pretend that the characters are oblivious to each other and that comedy arcs can’t strengthen their feelings, whatever they are.

saitouh:

My feelings on love incense arc pre-620:

  • i really have so much mixed positive and negative feelings about this arc
  • i just know NOTHING will come out of it, i just know. tsukuyo doesnt even want to ask for anything more :<
  • OMG WTF *voice drop to a whisper* sorachi changed both gintoki and tsukuyo’s text in the official volume
  • omg..omg.. they both said the same thing… gintoki said, “inhaling some idiot’s kiseru smoke right now is already enough for me” and tsuki said, “just being with u like this is enough to make me happy”  I CANT HOLD THIS
  • …i’m ok with what gintsuki already has i am not asking for more

My feelings on love incense arc post-620:

  • WHYYYYYYYYYYYY
  • WHY U GIVING ME HOPE I DIDNT ASK FOR, SORACHI
  • I HATE!
  • NOT OK
  • sorachi could just have had her support gintoki on the battlefield as a friend. instead, he drew 10 whole pages talking about her love for gintoki, maintaining her position as the MOST VIABLE LOVE INTEREST
  • Which other character has gotten this kind of continual focus on their romantic love for GINTOKI???? NOBODY

My feelings on reading 624:

Honestly i cannot believe – i just cannot believe. She is the strongest fighter in yoshiwara. She is highly trained in combat. But then sorachi, he had her trip over something so stupid. A FCKING ALCOHOL BOTTLE WTF IT’S SO CONVENIENT and what’s more, he had her wandering around at night in the place where gintoki was already sleeping. It just makes no sense whatsoever. I’m sorry but the scene feels so forced. It was as if sorachi had an irresistable urge to draw gintsuku so he did it regardless of how stupidly inappropriate it was to incorporate tsukuyo out of nowhere. It is so obvious that he just wanted to draw gintsuki for the heck of it and i’m screaminggggggg. I cannot believe this

post-620+624, the message/feeling im getting is: 

  • “here is a good woman who loves you whole-heartedly, gintoki. she is likely to love you forever.”
  • “no matter what you do, gintoki, please do not hurt this wonderful woman.”

little-chocolatecosmos:

To me this part was super important. I’m sick and tired of people saying Tsukuyo is weak and useless. Gin himself said that she’s strong. I repeat, he said that she’s strong. She’s not only strong physically but mentally also. Gin himself sees Tsukuyo’s strength. Tbh I don’t understand what y’all are reading with ‘cause it certainly isn’t with your eyes. What? She’s useless and weak because she fell in love? lololol. Time and time again Sorachi has shown how love doesn’t make someone “weak”, and instead it’s actually something so beautiful. Do you have any idea how much strength it takes to embrace feelings? Y’all basically have the same twisted mindset as Jiraia (who btw is the villain js). Tsukuyo doesn’t fret over her feelings for Gin 24/7. She is an individual with her own mind and her own drive. She is much more than a love interest. She is an independently strong character on her own. Stop bashing on her and trying to spread damn lies that she’s weak ‘cause Sorachi sure as hell doesn’t see her as weak. Y’all are starting to sound like broken record players. Miss me with that bs.