Everyone who knows me or follows me probably knows how much I love Sasha. Other than my friend recommending this series to me, I have to say Sasha was one the main reason I decided to give this series a go. She will always be my favourite character.
With the spoilers coming through and knowing that Sasha is most likely dead (there is like a slight and when I say slight, I mean /slight/ chance she lives. I really fucking hope she does live, doubt it though) I think it’s time we appreciate the light she shone on this series.
Love her or hate her, you cannot say she didn’t have some badass moments. Saving a child’s life by attacking a titan head on with non of the correct gear and just a bow and arrow/axe, like YES! You go girl! Get that development. Also remember when she saved Connie’s life sniping a military member that was about to shoot him. Even in the recent chapter, she managed to make a perfect shot that looked pretty difficult to do. She even spared her killer Gabi when she could’ve easily of took her out.
She had a lot of comical moments too. A character that could make us laugh a little despite how dark and sinister this series is.
I think it is safe to say that we all sort of saw this coming. Most of our red flags came up during the panel when Sasha and Gabi had that staring contest.
R.I.P Sasha Braus <3.
Also I get why people are pissed at Gabi for killing Sasha, me too, to be honest. However she doesn’t deserve the hate she is getting. (I may get into this later on, but this is a post appreciating the deceased)
(2/3) Marley, like there is in the walls but such an admission does not equal things being peachy and that everyone will hold hands and sing Kumbaya. Like or not, Eren and Reiner are on the opposite sides of the conflict. Paradis is just taking the battle to the home front. Mikasa’s tears and Armin’s horror and shock of the damage done is probably meant to convey that’s it’s okay to be horrified and disapprove by what’s currently going on despite understanding their motivations in the last couple
(3/3)chapters. I just wish some people would not use that as a excuse to make bogus claims about Eren’s character and state of mind. Eren’s been something of a puzzle these past couple chapters yet towards the end of 104, what do we see? A forlorn Eren looking at Reiner and saying “See ya, Reiner”. Make no mistake, Eren has arguably done questionable and objectionable things but I cannot support the crappy characterization he’s a genocidal monster bent on world domination and revenge.
I agree that there has been a lot of jumping on Eren’s character before we even know all of the details. Personally I’d never seen his actions in Marley as being motivated by revenge, but rather something he simply feels he must do. And it’s really tragic, honestly, but it’s also very interesting. I think the conversation around it has been interesting to read as well. But we can definitely agree on disliking the characterization some people are putting on him.
But yes! Eren’s forlorn look toward Reiner in the last chapter really solidified for me his growth since he learned Reiner’s truth and that Eren isn’t there because he’s still pissed off. He probably understands Reiner more than anyone else at this moment. There had to have been some kind of plan and reason for Eren being there, and Eren was willing to play the role of the monster for it. I’m especially curious to see how he interacts with everyone after this and I really hope that Isayama gives us a chance to dig into his brain again. I’d really love to know what’s going through it.
I’ve touched on it before but, one of the things Avatar does really well is subvert tropes to give charactere agency. While the Gaang tries to go by the book by getting people to rebel, and rise up, they always fail, with it being the job of the characters that they are trying to inspire to rise up, rebel, and fight, and to do so for their own reasons.
It would have been so easy to just have people like Yue, the guys from “Imprisoned,” Toph in “The Blind Bandit,” and Mai in “The Boiling Rock” and “The Beach” listen to Sokka, Zuko, Katara, or Aang, but they don’t. They’re all allowed to make their own decisions, on their own time, for their own reasons.
But it doesn’t stop there.
Katara doesn’t just forgive Zuko because he wants her to. She’s allowed to take her time.
The people in “Zuko Alone’ don’t just forgive Zuko because he did a good thing. No, they’re still very much prejudiced. This consequently ties in well with Zuko’s arc since he doesn’t get to be viewed as some kind of Fireman Savior–an image of the Fire Nation created by Fire Nation imperialists like Sozin.
This is in contrast to the people from “The Painted Lady.” While the villagers reject the Gaang at first because of who they are, they eventually warm up to them. But again, it’s not automatic. They change their minds gradually, and they’re allowed to do it on their own.
*Eren calmly asks Reiner why they did break the wall and what was their mission*
*Eren says he understands now that Paradis and Marley are the same (there’s rude people and kind people in both)*
*Eren tells Reiner to please forget the stuff he said about killing them all (looking embarassed about it)*
*Eren tells Reiner he understand how he feels and says he’s just the same*
*Eren says he’ll keep moving foward and turns into titan.*
What the anti-Eren brigade sees: HE’S A VILLAIN HE’S JUST TORTURING REINER WHO’S ALREADY MENTALLY HURT, HE’S OBVIOUSLY WORKING ALONE AND JUST WANTS REVENGE HE’S THE SAME SELFISH BRAT AS BEFORE HE DIDN’T CHANGED AT ALL HE’S JUST BEING IRRESPONSIBLE AND KILLING A BNCH OF INNOCENTS-
What I see: An adult who overcame his rage, lived with the enemy and now undertand much more about their world but is still a Paradis soldier, and even though he doesn’t want to hurt innocents he knows that he must fight for the sake of his people, just like RBA fought for the sake of theirs. He’s their hope and he’s gonna keep fighting for that even if it means dirting his hands.
To those saying Eren did what he did out of some personal vendetta
It’s one thing to say Eren did a completely horrible act by killing all those people. It’s another to say he did it for his own personal revenge. By agreeing with the latter it’s as if you completely missed out on the previous chapters.
Didn’t he literally explain all this in Chapter 97 when he was talking to Falco? I’m just gonna leave some quotes here:
“How did things turn out this way? Ruined minds and bodies… people with no freedom left to them… people who have even lost themselves.
“What kind of person would want to go to war if they knew they were going to end up like this?
“But there was something pushing us all along, causing us to step right into hell. For most of us, that something isn’t our own free will. We’re forced to by others, or by our own environment.
“But the kind of hell seen by people who push themselves into it is something else. They also see something beyond that hell. Maybe it’s hope. Maybe it’s yet another hell.”
“I don’t know which it is. The only people who do know are the ones who keep moving forward.”
After reading this it’s kind of silly for people to think he’s still the 15-year old who wants to punish Reiner for killing his mother. Eren understands him. He clarified that himself in the latest chapter. But even so, Eren still has to do what needs to be done. It doesn’t mean he likes doing it; he just needs to. If anything, this kind of development impressed me a lot. Eren literally went from “I want to kill all titans especially you, Reiner! So I can save humanity!” to “I need to fight for Paradis. Whether I want to or not is unimportant. I have this duty and responsibility to do it, as the holder of the Attack and Founding titans. Because if I don’t fight, we all die.”
So pls, reread the chapters if you need to. Isayama did a pretty good job transforming Eren into the person he is today, so for y’all to think he’s still the hotheaded brat who vowed to kill all titans, you’re literally undoing the development Isayama has done on Eren’s character over the course of a hundred chapters.
Mr. Potato here. As I was saying, Amon was relevant in encouraging CCG to work with the ghouls, as we saw in the chapters the investigators were surprised to see that one of the CCG heroes, Amon Koutarou, was alive, “hero” so Amon has credibility in the CCG and would get the attention of everyone because of it. I’m not here defending that he didn’t lie to himself there when he said those things, but he was relevant there and this time it’s not just about personal matters like Rushima.
Alright Anon, let’s define a character in the simplest of terms. A character is somebody who has a simple and clearly defined goal, and takes proactive steps towards that goal.
In Tokyo Ghoul, Amon’s goal was figuring out centipede. Almost every action he took was centered around that task, and the information he received relevant. As he was an investigator, it made sense that the main majority of his character arc is simply following Centipede’s trail and meeting him in different locations trying to figure out.
In Re: however, you cannot name one single goal which Amon pursues throughout the entire manga. His first goal is that he will pursue Seidou and Kurona and then save them because they are as he remembered in his final fight before becoming a ghoul members of his precious last sanctuary.
That is a goal, and then as we see all of Amon’s appearences in Re: before this point are trying to pursue that. Re: looking for Kurona, traveling to Rueshima in order to help Seidou.
Then, he gets exactly that. Seidou and Kurona are both safe, and even moreso they showed up to help him and drag him back to. All three of them are reunited, and Amon finally gets the chance to do as he said with Seidou, to allow Seidou to come with him and fight side by side and then….
Amon never mentions Seidou or Kurona ever again. Apparently, after dedicating three years of your life to saving someone, you don’t even want to check up on them or wonder where they are. Amon’s top priority instead becomes Akira.
Alright, his number one goal in life is Akira. He’s going to protect her and stay by her side and choose her over the world now, instead of how he failed to before in the three years he left her alone and didn’t choose to tell her he was alive. That’s his new goal- and now-
They’re both going up against Godzilla. Then we see Amon, who said that he felt all of his feelings as an investigator in the past were wrong, once again returning to his image of an idealized investigator and a CCG.
So when I say Amon has done nothing what I mean is none of his actions form together in a coherent and consistent arc. This is not a flaw of the writing (at least I hope it’s not, rule of thumb is assume everything is intentional), but rather a flaw of Amon himself and his inability to self actualize. Amon almost mirrors Kaneki in this regard, having lost his original cause he just shifts again from cause to cause as they are presented to him. Therefore he lacks the ability to truly commit himself to any one of them.
You can tell Amon’s hesitance to commit, because he almost never acts until the house is already on fire. He is reactive, rather than active. Amon waits until Rueshima is at its absolute worst and most tense, and then saves Seidou by tearing his arm off and then starting a fight with him. He does not even get to Kurona on time despite stalking her for years it seemed. Seidou is the one who waits by Akira’s bedside, and then retrieves the RC suppressant with Kaneki, and also brings Amon back, but it’s Amon who at the end of that speaks with her. Only after being told by Touka to do so, and also he realizes he wanted to speak with her all along after being told by Touka again. He does not move to help Kaneki with Goat until after 90% of the ghoul population has been exterminated, Goat is mostly destroyed, and Kaneki has turned into a giant monster. Then, and only then does Amon suddenly decide to act. The consistent thread in all of this is Amon is not an active decider in these scenarios. The scenarios area always set for him by other people, and Amon merely reacts to them, most often in the way dictated by others.
A weird writing quirk of Amon’s in Re: is that all of his importance from Tokyo Ghoul still remains, as you said Amon is an important person to the CCG, and an important perosn thematically, but we see in manifest in Re: in the form of lost potential.
Amon had the potential to understand ghouls, however he instead tried to learn everything by himself and failed to empathize with them or even see himself as a ghoul despite living as one for three years.
Amon has the potential to undermine V’s grip on the CCG, and their propaganda. He himself is a ghoul while remianing an investigator at heart and a believer in the CCG’s ideals. He is sitting on the sphinx conspiracy, the fact that the CCG experimented on him behind closed doors, etc. etc.
Yet when he chooses to speak to give the CCG a reason to fight with ghouls, does he reveal either of these things? The fact that the CCG was corrupt and that their propaganda that ghouls have no emotions was a lie? The fact that he a former CCG officer is himself a ghoul and standing right in front of them?
No, he once again justice bla bla bla peace bla bla…
Which as I remind you sounds more like V, than anything else.
Which is where I reach my point… probably. That Amon’s actions are inconsitent as a part of his character arc. He does not know what he wants to do, but he also refuses to admit that he does not know. As it would mean accepting a personal responsibility that he is not prepared to accept. Which is why he is still spouting the line of Kaneki not being a murderer, long after Kaneki became a murderer several times over.
The irony behind that line was that Kaneki is only not a murderer if he does not kill humans. As long as Amon has only killed ghouls, he is not a murderer, he is not fallen like Seidou, or Donato. Donato is Amon’s Black Goat’s Egg. Amon does not want to admit that in a way he’s repeated the same violence that he saw in Donato as a child.
To acknowledge Donato’s humanity, and to acknowledge his own actions means that he has already been a murderer long ago. Long before he became a ghoul in fact. As what Amon’s primary motivator at the beginning of the manga was, was to stop the violence in the world that was primarily aimed at children, because he let so many children in his own orphanage die. Yet his first actions is to enable and even encourage Mado’s pursuit of a child in Hinami, and kill her mother right in front of her. Then much later in the manga, Amon’s current goal is to save Kaneki Ken, somebody who did this to Hajime Hazuki.
Who remember is the same Hajime that Amon was motivated to help fix the world, protect orphans like him or prevent any more people from being orphaned all those years ago.
This is what you call an arc, these flaws and ignorances on Amon’s part are designed with a purpose. Otherwise there would be no reason to call back to Hajime all those years ago, he could have been a completely new character like Yusa, Rikai and Shio were, however the callback is deliberate and we’re meant to think on it.
Amon’s main flaw was ignorance, he even said it was the reason he was carrying the cross around his neck. In order to actually contribute in a meaningful way Amon has to figure himself out, figure out what he wants, and act proactively and consistently. That’s the path to the completion of his character arc, and so when I say that Amon has accomplished nothing, I entirely mean it as a flaw of his character. That he as a character is prevented from self actualizing due to certain flaws holding him back, and that a path exists in the narrative for resolution of this flaw.
Sure! So, Touka is the first ghoul Kaneki bonds with. When she’s distraught over Ryouko’s death, Kaneki empathizes with her, offering to help her even if he doesn’t agree, because he can understand how she feels. Even now, she’s his link to the ghoul world, as Tsukiyama notes. She’s what keeps him involved.
But. It’s not enough. One person is not enough to sustain you, and Kaneki needs to learn to expand that empathy from Touka-chan to ghouls. Because if he keeps it limited to just Touka and not to ghouls as a species, he’s actually thereby encouraging Touka’s self-hatred of her own ghoulhood. But his path towards growing is through expanding the empathy and love he already feels for Touka as a person to her whole species.
Kaneki has the ability to inspire Touka to embrace her ghoulhood, but he’s stuck right now. Once he starts caring about ghouls, while I think he’s shot every chance he had of being a leader, he can inspire Touka also to increase her empathy for her fellow ghouls.
Similarly Kaneki helps Touka realize that even people she treats terribly (and she does treat him terribly at the start of the first TG, though he’s also a dick to her at first so) can still grow to care about her. Reconciling with Kaneki and growing to love him and seeing him return that love helps her see that there is still a path forward for her, a way to live and live with hope, despite the horrible things she’s done.
The specific mention of bodies changing feels like it has to be foreshadowing that this tragic affair can have a somewhat happy resolution – at least, so far as these two are concerned. Touka and Kaneki won’t stop loving each other no matter what, and he’ll always come back home.
Honestly people bitching over Chapter 132’s panel where Lizzy got up and rushed over to see if real!Ciel was alright is RIDICULOUS. She’s what, 8 or 9 years old and she just wants to see if her cousin/fiancé is okay after being knocked down by THE Frances Midford (c’mon, a blow like that has GOT to hurt) and suddenly everyone thinks care and consideration are the two greatest sins a person could have. Oh god forbid Lizzy make sure her cousin isn’t injured after he got knocked on his ass and looked like he was gonna pass out after Frances gave him a verbal slap down. (And please bear in mind: RC wasn’t a little shit at this age yet so we are allowed to feel sympathy for this future basket-case.)
But this ONE scene has suddenly got people claiming our!Ciel was abused, mistreated, and tormented by his family and relatives?? Like BRUH—you are extrapolating nonexistent and implausible data which 1) you should NEVER do in statistics or in life and 2) it makes you look like a biased, headstrong fanatic who is determined to smear the Phantomhive/Midford families. Just because Vincent commented that his second son was sickly does NOT mean he didn’t love OC. Just because Frances pointed out OC had a weak constitution does NOT mean she didn’t love her nephew. And Lizzy rushing to make sure RC was alright does NOT mean she didn’t care for OC.
For the last flipping time—OC WAS LOVED. His parents were ready to cancel their boat trip because OC got a fever, remember? Does that sound like an abusive household where child services was desperately needed? NO. And did everyone just happen to forget what Lizzy was doing BEFORE RC was knocked flat on his ass? She was asking OC about his cold and wanting to know if he felt better. Lizzy is a considerate, cheerful, CARING girl by nature so OF COURSE she would want to make sure BOTH her cousins are happy, safe, and healthy.
And (I really must reiterate this again), the twins (plus Lizzy) were only 8 or 9 years old. I don’t think children that age are capable of declaring their undying, complex love and devotion for a person who they’ve basically grown up with and seen mainly as their cousin. To all the readers who believe that Lizzy “chose” RC over OC in this scene…Lizzy hasn’t even hit puberty yet, there is NO WAY she understands the nuances and intricacies of romantic love quite yet. She’s a fucking CHILD. In this scene, it was NOT Lizzy openly deciding to abuse and neglect OC, it was, quite simply, a little girl wanting to make sure her cousin wasn’t hurt after getting humiliated by Frances Midford née Phantomhive.
So please, I IMPLORE YOU, to please settle down and remember: this is a little girl who hasn’t even hit a double digit age number yet and all she’s doing is checking to make sure her cousin is okay.
Side note: please, please, please remember that this was the Victorian era. Children were given a greater degree of independence and expected to conduct themselves with all the maturity their station required of them. Because RC and OC were the sons of an earl, nephews to a marquess, and, on top of all this, members of the Phantomhive family, they were expected to behave with a certain amount of self-awareness. They weren’t going to be coddled forever and adults probably spoke to them like they would converse with other adults—which meant they didn’t hold back the truth (i.e. Diedrich’s comment towards OC that had half the fandom up in arms). Thus, with regard to differences in era and social class, we, as readers, must actively remind ourselves not to judge these characters based on our 21st century values.
Do some of these actions look outdated, patriarchal, and outright infuriating? Yes, they do—but the conditions of adolescence ran in accordance to the average lifespan of the Victorian era. A lifespan considerably shorter than our own. People graduated from universities at the age of 18, had children before they were 20, and probably died their mid to late 50s. Children were expected to grow up, learn fast, and uphold the honor and privilege of the family name. Just because OC isn’t coddled every other page doesn’t mean he was a neglected child whose boyhood was filled with emotional melancholy—it represents two key things:
1) That OC’s parents loved him and took the advice of doctors into account: no extraneous physical exercise for fear of triggering his asthma—hence why OC was kept indoors so often. Vincent and Rachel wanted OC to live. Would it really have been better for them to indulge OC’s whims, let him run around with his brother, and then have him suffer an asthma attack and die? I should think not.
2) They tried their hardest to include OC in whatever activities they did. Vincent took BOTH RC and OC with him to inspect the Phantomhive domain. RC explicitly told OC that he liked spending time with him. Lizzy was concerned over OC’s physical health and made sure to ask if he had recovered from his previous illness.