YES EXACTLY ANON! I mean, first of all thank you so much for the nice words, you’re adorable kajebkjbe ❤ but yes, I hope that “Rize” will make him realize all of this soon, because…
the term “murderer” indeed could have been used a while ago already to define him, since he used to kill ghouls and even eat them.
I mean, in this manga everyone (except for Yoriko) did morally reprehensive stuff, so it’s not that Kaneki has to take it harder upon himself or that he’s worse than other characters, but all in all, it’s as @randomthoughtpatterns explained here: so far apparently, only humans are “people” for Kaneki, he doesn’t see ghouls as their equal, which is why he never used to see himself as a murderer, that is until he started killing humans in ch144.
So I really hope “Rize” will call him out on this big hypocrisy of his (or maybe it will be for a later character development and he’ll hate himself for killing humans first until he realizes it’s way too hypocritical?), because it’s highly passed the time for Kaneki to start considering humans and ghouls as equal, especially since he is in love with a ghoul + he’s supposed to help bringing coexistence.
The biggest irony of it all is that, on this aspect just like on many others, he and Touka are a set too, since even as a ghoul Touka has the mentality that her species is worth less than humankind:
And Dragoneki’s rampage is definitely not helping this mentality…
So, whether this important realization is for next week or slightly later, I hope one day Kaneki & Touka (as well as Amon and a few others) will understand that…
…this world only has a future if they stop lying to themselves about one species being better than another (which is overall illustrated by Touka expecting their hybrid baby in a world that currently holds no chance of a happy future for it).
So I love that there is a strong connotation behind “Rize” calling Kaneki by a term that defines him but that no one ever used to refer to him before…
and I’m hoping that this will be because he realized he’s been a murderer for a while now, since he had no mercy for ghouls either at some earlier point in the story.
But yeah, we’ll see next week. Thank you again so much for the nice words Anon ❤ Wishing you a lovely day!
yeS VERY GOOD ANON A+ REALIZATION!
I mean, I love Kaneki & Touka and I love that they’re in love with each other, but my babies, at some point you gotta face the irony and hypocrisy on which your relationship and hope for the future currently rest.
I actually do not think that Kaneki & Touka hate the ghoul species or anything but…
they were respectively Goat’s first and second leader and they are a set there too, in the fact that neither cared about what Goat was supposed to be fighting for. And yet, as you pointed out, since they both started to grow closer to each other because of this moment…
it’s not like we are not already sure that they will get there eventually.
It’s even more certain since, again, Touka is pregnant with their hybrid baby and the world as it currently is holds no place for it. So it’s always been my belief that both of them would need to realize that they should start considering truly fighting for coexistence and equality between humankind and ghoulkind, since their baby’s future is at stake in this situation too.
Before they get there though, Kaneki has to realize that he didn’t just become a murderer and Touka has to find a way to confront all that she has to confront (her dad, Yoriko…), before she can move on from the idea that it’s natural for ghouls to matter less than humans.
The thing is, we know it’s coming, we know it could happen next week for Kaneki, since Rize is the first ghoul he “killed”…
so it’s making me very excited while still being slightly afraid that Sensei will delay it for a little while longer, because he will want Kaneki and Touka to come to this realization together at the same time (and I don’t mind either way, but… #character development is sooooo interesting).
Thanks for your sharing thoughts Anon! Have a nice day :))
Hi Anon! Actually I’m not sure there is a need to try and justify Kaneki’s current bias towards ghouls, I mean…
he was a human who barely thought ghouls existed until he was a college student
then Kanou, Rize and Furuta happened but TG part 1 barely lasted a year
finally he became Sasaki Haise, a ghoul investigator for something like three years before he remembered all of TG part 1
So in the end, it’s not so surprising that he has trouble fully realizing that humans and ghouls are on the same level. In fact, ironically enough, it’s something that he tackled rather well from early on in TG…
since he even went as far as to take a bite of Amon to win against him and help Touka & Hina. So when Kaneki told Touka that he would be sad should she die, it was during a time he walked on a good path,
but then Aogiri happened and well, it fucked him up.
Anon above is right, Kaneki and Touka are in love with each other right now because Kaneki saw Touka’s life as valuable back then, not because she was a ghoul or a human, but because he got close to her as a person, which is why his romantic feelings for her currently don’t particularly encompass her nature of ghoul but just who she is as a living person.
That’s also why everything is currently so ironic: if Aogiri hadn’t happened, maybe Kaneki would have realized way earlier that ghouls and humans were to be seen as equal and would have had way less trouble taking on the role of the OEK, but hey, Sensei wanted TG to be tragic which is why we are where we are in :Re.
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