Blood transfusion and “immortality”: the eccentric bunch of the Osiris company

Here’s the ~~little~~ long theory for the last Kuro chapter, resulting from a very nice discussion with @thedarkestcrow when spoilers came out for anyone interested 🙂 And I also thank @dorkshadows and @wondrouswatchdog for their help with some details. ❤

A warning though: I’m already aware that many people took the scene I’m going to talk about as a hint for the 2CT (understandably so), and while I respect all people’s opinion, since I chose to interpret it differently in this post I ask that you please refrain from commenting only about the 2CT (any version) in case you want to add your thoughts. 🙂
I don’t really want to start a dialogue of the death so thank you in advance ^^

((A TL;DR paragraph is at the very end in case you don’t want to read the long explanation.))

About Lord Sirius…

Considering how the Blue Sect arc was presented as supernatural with Bravat’s fortune-telling when in fact it’s about blood collect and probable blood transfusion experiments, I’m not ready to consider that the person is a vampire/Ciel’s twin/Ciel’s clone yet.

For me, Sirius is someone we don’t know and who’s very very old, judging by what looks like to be a typical case of varicose veins on his arms and hands. In case you don’t know what it is, just try to compare your arms with an elderly person’s (because google images can be a bit gruesome), you’ll see how it is a consequence and sign of advanced age. 🙂
Old age would also explain why it looks like his shadow and Ciel’s in ch113 are of the same height because most people shrivel after a certain age, but this is a detail really (because Yana could be 100% trolling us with the shadows).

Now before I propose an answer as to why Lord Sirius would need blood, let me go back in the timeline a little.
Remember the Campania arc? At some point after things got crazy, Ciel wonders just why the BDs are “supposedly” taken to America…

The Osiris company was barely ever talked about after this, and since Ciel guessed that it might be a phantom company, we readers never knew whether he investigated them or not.
But the thing is, it’s probable that this company really exists, because when UT is asked what was the point of the experiment on the Campania he answers:

and I’m thinking “that eccentric bunch” could refer to the Osiris company.

Now what’s the link with the Blue Sect Arc? Well, Ryan mentions a new drug (as in medicine) and the Blue Sect Arc definitely gives off a medical vibe with the blood collect and tranfusions, so maybe Yana-sensei intends to really introduce them in this arc.
Besides, it appears that they could be eccentric and if that’s not how to define Bravat, then I don’t know what adjective would suit him, haha! ^^

Back to “Lord Sirius”, I also consider for the sake of this theory that he is a part of the Osiris company, probably someone very important too, since both Bravat and Violet kneel in front of him, but he might not be the only “Lord” inside the Sphere music hall, as @thedarkestcrow explained here, which would make sense considering Lizzie’s behavior so far.

After all, Violet and Lizzie seem to be the only two really unhappy at the Sphere music hall and now that we have an idea as to why for Violet (they’re endangering him by taking his blood too often), it’s easy to think it might be the same reason for Lizzie.

It’s the Victorian era so, as Sieglinde and Wolfram explained, the blood transfusion technique is not mastered yet at all and I’m thinking discerning the 4 different blood types is all Bravat can do for now.

This is why they probably don’t know how AB types are universal recipients or O types are universal donors, so since the Sirius star represents the AB type, Violet has to give his blood when the mass collect during the week isn’t enough for Lord Sirius (because there are not a lot of people being AB, as we saw when Ciel went to the private event).

Same for Lizzie, if the Canopus private event doesn’t bring back enough blood during the week (second rarest type) then she probably has to give her blood (or radiance in Bravat’s words) to a Lord/Lady Canopus, like Violet does for Sirius. Why her and not Redmond though? Well, because…

The S4 are the poster boys for the Blue Sect, they’re very important to seduce the masses and bring even more people to the blood collect sessions, which is probably why Lizzie is giving her blood and not Redmond as long as Bravat can avoid it.

In Violet’s case though, he might be the only one staying at the Sphere music hall who is AB type, which is why he doesn’t have a choice even though he is a member of S4 (poor guy).

I hope these details make sense somehow, sorry this has to be so long (I’m not good at explaining with a few words :/). Now I’ll try to answer why Lord Sirius could need blood for, especially if the Osiris company is involved because it could be linked to the concept of immortality.

Considering the name of the company, it’s quite easy to think that it might have to do with the Osiris myth, which is about Osiris dying because of his brother’s jealousy and Isis his wife reviving him (nice summary here): it is associated with the idea of immortality (for the soul) and a regeneration beyond the grave.

I find that idea particularly interesting because it fits with UT’s bizarre doll project, since he is trying to bring people back from the dead through experimentation on cinematic records (souls are another step) and since it appears the Osiris company was involved with the BD incident during the Campania arc.
Besides, it’s nothing new that there is a high chance UT is involved in this arc…

So maybe he’s helping/working with/using the people at the Sphere music hall, maybe even for the sake of his own experimentation (new Bizarre dolls for example).

As for the Blue Sect, if we consider they’re a part of the Osiris company, maybe they actually got the idea to experiment on blood transfusion because of UT’s bizarre doll project.
UT gave them an example of what he could do when it comes to “resurrection” with the BD project during the Campania arc, so maybe they got inspired by him and his ideas and are trying for their own experimentation (the thing is, only a shinigami can work on cinematic records, so that could be why they’re trying with blood, especially since Lord Sirius probably isn’t dead yet).

If we consider Bravat’s words…

It seems “the light” of Lord Sirius probably refers to life while “radiance” is Violet’s blood, so Lord Sirius is probably not doing so great and it would be interesting to see if Bravat and Co. are convinced that maybe blood transfusion can stop someone from dying of old age or simply reverse the effects of natural aging for a time.

I had this idea because IRL some scientists are trying to prove that blood transfusions could be one way to reverse aging (note that I think it’s never happening but that’s not the point) and besides Ciel said…

Meaning that important people are investing money in the Blue Sect for a reason, but honestly as @thedarkestcrow said it’s very surely not because the S4 sing well or because of free food, haha!

However if the Blue Sect is conducting an experiment trying to show that stopping death (or reversing aging for a time) through blood transfusion is a thing, I’m sure many people would be ready to invest money in order to get more results since we all get old before dying.
They feel concerned by the results of the experimentation so they pay, that’s what I mean 🙂

Last thing is: Othello who just got introduced is from the forensic department and he was sent probably because the superiors might need someone to explain why there are so many cases of death by blood loss in London.
If the reason is “medicine experiment gone wrong and unethical” then it makes sense that someone with the scientific knowledge is sent rather than just a regular Shinigami.

That or if the Blue Sect is actually keeping Lord Sirius (and others?) alive with blood transfusions, the Shinigamis’ list for the collect might be all messed up and the Superiors sent someone to find an explanation. 🙂

TL;DR for the theory of this month’s chapter:

The Blue Sect might be affiliated with the Osiris company introduced during the Campania arc.

Lord Sirius is a very very old guy (varicose veins on his arms as a sign of old age for me) probably important in the Osiris company, who has blood pumped into him either so he can stay alive because he’s very very old, or because they’re experimenting to see if (”young”) blood transfusion can reverse aging (might be both actually).

Violet (blood type AB, rarest) and Lizzie (blood type B, second rarest) are probably personal blood donors, in case the quantity of blood collected for all types each week isn’t enough to keep Lord Sirius (and maybe Lord Canopus?) in good shape.
Therefore they’re likely to be more in danger than anyone else at the Sphere music hall (because of anemia).

Important people are supporting the Sphere music hall according to Ciel’s investigation, probably because the experimentation concerns them (my point being that they wouldn’t invest money if that was just to see Lord Sirius being a vampire or dealing with his blood disorder).

There is a big chance the Undertaker is involved (the Osiris myth has a big parallel to the BD project besides the fact he’s most probably acquainted with the Osiris company since before the Campania arc) though his reasons are as always hard to pinpoint. It could very probably be for new BDs though.

Considering ch108/109 and how Ciel is already on the move to go get them, we are probably in for a plot twist (involving UT).
Maybe he’s after Ciel, and that’s why he warned Bravat about Sebastian and also why Lizzie is involved in this arc in particular (especially since Bravat used her feelings to trap her inside the Sphere music hall). Unless Bravat is supernatural of course.

Othello who is a part of the “geekiest division of the Shinigami dispatch” might be a hint that something unusual but scientific is behind all those cases of death by blood loss.

Whew, I’m sorry it was so long guys T_T but I hope it was interesting and it made at least some sense.
As always, it’s just a theory and it might get disproved next month for all I know, but it’s always fun to try assembling hints! ^^

Thank you for reading and feel free to ask anything! 🙂

funtom-cafe:

I have a theory. It’s really rushed of me because we don’t have the new chapter and I’m probably wrong, but I want to share it with you guys.

@shinigami-mistress did this post making sense of the shinigami world, and @abybweisse did this post comparing Othello, Kuro’s character, and Othello, Shakespeare’s character.

What if the reason why he is in such an easy and non-dangerous job it is indeed because he has to spend more time to achieve his salvation. What if the Shinigami world puts you in jobs depending on the reason why you killed yourself. (this sounds ugly, but so it is the Shinigami world for all we know).

Think about it. Grell and Ronald, like shinigami-mistress said, are in dangerous work, William is a supervisor, and Othello just don’t get in danger at all. If the amount of work in the field is what you need to get absolved, maybe the people who killed themselves because they were ashamed of a murder they commited would need more time than the people who killed themselves for personal reasons.

I can’t avoid to think being in a job purposefully design to make you work more because of something you did would not in the world make you as cherfull as Othello is, but think this: he may have killed his wife. He is, in all his right, atoning for his sins. Yeah he has to work for more time but is this really a bad thing? He’s doing something right about the horrible thing he did for the person he loved. He’s literally atoning for his sins indeed. Maybe that’s why he’s so nonchalant and don’t care about it, he’s doing something right.

Maybe people like Ronald or Grell suicided for personal things, personal problems, because they were afixiated by their reality, or stuff like this. And it would have sense that they were put in a job were they could find the absolution more quickly. Some people likes to headcanon William as a workaholic who killed himself for that, maybe even for boredom, I’ve heard. So he has to work a little more, because other people have priorities.

Yeah, I’m really arbitrary on my organization of “which suicide is more condemnable” because it’s a really fucked up theme. But so it’s shinigami world. (also, the organization of the dispatch in the ova is something I’m not taking into account because fuck the ova that made you think they were gods that were funny because they had to work for their jobs, and not freaking humans who killed themselves. Shit).

Like, I’m probably wrong, but I want to share that. Maybe the work you’re in the despatch is highly related on how and especially why was the suicide that put you in there in the first place. Just a thought.

Theory about what happened 50 years ago: Has the Queen been judged worthy?

thedarkestcrow:

(This is in response to an ask I got yesterday about what I think happened “50 years ago”. There are still many uncertainties about Undertaker and his reasons for deserting so for now, this is probably just a cracky headcanon.)

What are given facts?

Undertaker said that the last time someone called him a shinigami was around 50 years ago. (In the print edition he says “at least” half a century.)

So I assume that was the time when he quit the Dispatch and became a deserter. Since the current timeline takes place in 1889, 50 years ago means around 1839 (+/-).

So what else happened around this time? Victoria became the Queen in June 1837 (at least in real life). Not long after that, on December 10th, 1837, Mally G. died. That’s the earliest mourning locket that Undertaker possesses.

We don’t know the relationship between Undertaker and the people on his lockets but it’s very likely that it was very close and those people meant much to Undertaker. He called the lockets his “treasure” so the people who they belong to must be important to him. Also, it’s no secret that Undertaker doesn’t like the Queen.

That’s it for the facts. Now here’s what I think could have happened:

The Queen is responsible for the deaths of the people on the lockets or at least that’s what Undertaker believes. We know that Claudia Phantomhive who’s also one of the persons on UT’s lockets died at a young age. Since she probably was the Queen’s Watchdog before Vincent it’s likely that she had to die because of that. Maybe the other people were also part of the Watchdog’s network, like Undertaker himself. He might have considered them all as friends but they all died during their work for the Queen or maybe even by the Queen’s orders.

Now how does this connect to Undertaker’s reasons for deserting?

We know that there’s the possibility for humans to be deemed ‘worthy’.

If someone who’s destined to die is judged “beneficial to the world” by a shinigami the person will be excluded from the to-die list and will continue to live. Even though William says that there are almost no humans this applies to, there must be a reason why Yana decided to invent this loophole. So what if Queen Victoria is one of these rare people who have been judged worthy?

There’s an interesting little fact about the real Queen Victoria. Starting in 1830 she was forced to go on several trips around England and Wales and as a result of constant stress and little rest she fell ill with a severe fever in 1835. What if our Victoria from the manga was supposed to die because of that but then a shinigami judged her worthy and she survived?

Given that she ruled England for a very long time she had great influence and impact on the society. And currently the situation in the manga could lead to war where Victoria might play an important role. Maybe that’s why she would have been judged “beneficial to the world”.

Someone who’s being excluded from the to-die list must be important in the shinigami’s eyes. So there’s the possibility that they delegate someone of their own to protect this special person. Now who could that be in Victoria’s case?

We’ve never seen John Brown’s eyes and he seems to have supernatural abilities, being able to travel to Germany that fast and without being affected by the poison gas in the forest. So he could be a shinigami whose job is to protect the Queen as long as she’s “beneficial to the world”.

But now imagine how Undertaker must feel about this. The person who he thinks is responsible for his friends’ deaths is someone who has been judged worthy by his fellow shinigami.

I think he was still working as a shinigami in 1835. Now I can think of two possibilities:

First, Undertaker himself was the shinigami who judged Victoria worthy in 1835. Two years later she became Queen and shortly after that she was responsible for Mally G.’s death, who was a personal friend of Undertaker. Stricken with guilt, Undertaker regretted his decision of letting Victoria live and that’s why he quit working as a shinigami.

And second, someone else judged her worthy. Undertaker was against that decision but he couldn’t change the other shinigami’s mind. Then, when Mally G. died, he couldn’t accept living among the other shinigami who even wanted to protect Victoria and that’s why he deserted. As for who that other shinigami might be, there’s the possibility that it was Othello who has implied that his last time in the human world was around 50 years ago:

Maybe even Othello regretted his decision after hearing that someone died because of Queen Victoria, or he feared Undertaker’s wrath and that’s why he changed his profession and started to work in the Forensic Division rather than in the Retrieval Division.

Ever since deserting Undertaker could have tried to observe the Queen’s activities and prevent that something bad happens because of her. Through this he might try to make up for the ‘mistake’, as he would call it, of letting Victoria live. That’s how he could have come in contact with the Phantomhives and became part of their network.

I’m sure this theory has some flaws and I don’t say it has to be true, but I could imagine that something like this might have happened.

kuro-bitch-suji:

This has been keeping me up all night, something fucking insane is going on, I know it okay? In @midnight-in-town ‘s tags on my theory sparked a lot of ideas in my head and I can’t get the thought out of my head that something huge is happening in the next arc. I am honestly terrified for everyone, mostly Ciel. I hope you don’t mind me using your tags!

“#and maybe it fits his name ‘Ciel,’ since it means Sky and Heavens and all, so that would explain the stars, but then why would the stars be on the chessboard floor?”

When I think about that, I imagine it means Ciel essentially “falling out of heaven,” maybe everything is falling apart? Stars falling from heaven because the heavens are falling apart?

“#there is also the weird lyrics associated with the possible star of redemption theory… maybe something bad will happen to Ciel…”

I don’t know what that theory is, but I do know the lyrics are really strange. One of the lyrics, “forget everything,” is bugging me. It kind of reminds me when a character falls into a trance or forgets their mission along the way because of someone or something else. It seems like Lizzy is in a trance, her eyes are dull, soulless, and glazed over. She looks like she is in a trance.

“#the cogs scream cinematic record for me.”

The cogs are definitely apart of the cinematic records and I’m scared. Maybe we’ll see Ciel or maybe even Lizzy’s cinematic record? I think Lizzy’s would be realistic if we do see a record considering people are speculating that Lizzy may die.

“#and I’m also for now still convinced that Lizzie is totally the bait. #involving a lot of personal matters for Ciel, maybe that’s why Lizzy is so deeply involved.”

We all know that Ciel cares a great deal about Lizzy and to get to him, you’d have to hurt someone he cares about. Ciel has risked his life time and time again for Lizzy and I wouldn’t be surprised if he did it again in this new arc and was reckless about it. Vincent’s words as you see below can show more light on how Ciel might be to reckless when fighting for the one who he loves.

“#gosh Vincent’s words of cp107.5 have me so worried.”

Now that I went back to that chapter, they’ve worried me too.

“Love is a magnificent thing but, incidentally, it can also give birth to dreadful tragedy. Well, I have to go now, but, I want you all to watch over my son’s fate.”

Well now definitely I think that something is going to happen to Lizzy so that someone can hurt Ciel. His love for her is going to cause a tragedy. Someone might use her as bait and hurt her, luring him in because he cares for her, he loves her. When Vincent says my “watch over my son’s fate,” that’s just scary. Something bad is definitely going to happen to Lizzy, but nobody really had any theories that Ciel would get severely hurt. Maybe Lizzy seemingly going to be injured or hurt is going to distract us from something even worse happening to Ciel?

I just know something crazy and awful is going to happen and that someone is going to get fucked up. I can’t stop thinking about this and I am convinced that something HUGE is going on.

@kuro-bitch-suji

Honestly I don’t mind you using my tags if it gives you ideas, but since they’re mostly about me talking to myself (referring to particular thoughts) that might not always make sense to someone else lol. I will answer a few points though.

I don’t know what that theory is, but I do know the lyrics are really strange. One of the lyrics, “forget everything,” is bugging me.

This is @erebuscheslock’s theory. 🙂 You can read it here.

We all know that Ciel cares a great deal about Lizzy and to get to him, you’d have to hurt someone he cares about. Ciel has risked his life time and time again for Lizzy and I wouldn’t be surprised if he did it again in this new arc and was reckless about it

Hm yeah, since I believe UT is behind a part of this and he knows about Ciel (and probably about Lizzie to an extent), that’s why I think Bravat’s “fortune telling consultation” was way too accurate on Lizzie’s case (the part on her fiancé gave it away).

Besides the blood theory hasn’t explained everything yet, the main thing being that while the majority of people look brainless happy, Lizzie’s far from any similar feelings…

And there is also the fact that she ran away from home when many people who have bracelets don’t live at the Sphere music hall and only come for the private events.
An even weirder fact is that she’s never seen interacting with the guests like the P4/S4 do even though she lives at the Sphere music hall like them, so it doesn’t even look like she’s related to the Blue Sect arc’s purpose (researching about blood transfusion), which is why I meant she might be the bait to lure Ciel into a trap, especially if UT is involved and considering that scene…

didn’t find an explanation yet.

“Love is a magnificent thing but, incidentally, it can also give birth to dreadful tragedy. Well, I have to go now, but, I want you all to watch over my son’s fate.”

Well now definitely I think that something is going to happen to Lizzy so that someone can hurt Ciel. His love for her is going to cause a tragedy. Someone might use her as bait and hurt her, luring him in because he cares for her, he loves her. When Vincent says my “watch over my son’s fate,” that’s just scary.

The part is really interesting because I always took it the other way around thinking this was relating to UT, but it does work with Ciel and Lizzie too. 🙂

Honestly I’m thinking that if it was just about a regular arc with a few crazy dudes trying to learn about blood transfusion, there would be no need for Lizzie to be such an important part of it.

Considering all her issues with Ciel since the Campania arc, this arc is bound to be extremely emotional and full of revelations, otherwise there would be no need for UT to be so heavily hinted at and for Lizzie to even be used as a bait.

The new Shinigami guy is already a hint that we will have info about UT, after all he mentioned not smelling organic scents for 50 years, meaning something happened 50 years ago which forced him to leave his scythe to someone else, and coincidentally that’s around the time UT deserted (take a look at @thedarkestcrow‘s post in case you haven’t).

So, all in all, I’m thinking that with UT’s link to the Phantomhives, the weird lineage thing going on since the last arc and Lizzie being used as a bait, it won’t be a “regular” arc and something terrible (a tragedy by Vincent’s own words) will probably happen indeed.

It’s a two parts arc: the regular mystery and the bigger and darker subplot probably linked to UT once Ciel will have taken care of the experiments on blood transfusion.

I’m glad if my tags gave you more ideas to ponder on anyway. Always a pleasure! 🙂

Ch. 114: A New Shinigami

thedarkestcrow:

In this chapter we’re introduced to a new shinigami: Othello from the Forensic Division. Like Grell mentions, it’s unusual for someone from that division to show up to a crime scene. Othello says that him being here means the ‘superiors’ are finally starting to get serious.

That’s a very interesting information. Why would shinigami and their superiors be concerned about some murders going on in the human world? Their job is to collect the souls of the dying, not to prevent murder or to investigate who’s behind this – unless there’s some special case where some supernatural being is involved. In that case they are sent to investigate.

And with Othello being there, even though this is not his actual job, that could mean that these corpses are the result of some supernatural creature being involved in their deaths!

Also, Othello implies that he hasn’t been in the human world for almost 50 years.

That could mean that he committed suicide around that time and started in the Forensic Division as soon as he became a shinigami. Or (and that’s far more interesting) he could have worked in the Retrieval Division before and was moved or decided to change his profession around 50 years ago. That was around the same time when Undertaker deserted. So if both worked as shinigami who collected souls at the same time it’s very likely that they knew each other. And maybe they even worked together.

Something might have happened 50 years ago that made Undertaker decide to desert and Othello change the division he works in. And now, Othello of all shinigami is sent to investigate some strange murders. Coincidence?

The London Dispatch has been investigating Undertaker for a while now without seeming to have made much progress. Othello’s comment about his superiors ‘finally’ getting serious in sending him there could be related to this investigation about Undertaker.

It will be interesting to see what new information (that may be related to Undertaker) Othello will provide.