nah it seems that we really were meant to take Miza saying “let him sleep” at face value!
I’m not sure that Eto was ever dead either. V clearly picked her up in Cochlea and have been keeping her since. They have Nico who can heal so its possible he kept her going when she was meant to die
When Amon attacked Donato, Owl lost power telling us it was Donato remote controlling Eto via the Cross in her neck
after Donato died, the Cross melted away and she regenerated
So rather than remote controlling her entire body like Koma and Irimi, they had cut off her head to remove her own conscious thought. In it’s place was the kagune cross doing the “thinking” for Owl via Donato and preventing her regenerating. Once that was gone “POP”. If Eto were truly dead there probably wouldn’t have been a need to remove her head ya know?
So yeah, I think there are a few distinctions between whats happening with these characters being “””resurrected””
First of all, this already happened during the Rushima arc
and Miza was more unsettled than she currently is, so for now I’m taking what she said literally: Naki fought “until the end", which is to say until there was no more Oggai (’cause no enemy in sight where they are and Miza is still alive, meaning they must have won their side of the fighting), which is why he’s just completely exhausted and needs to get some sleep.
Of course, I might be wrong and we will know for sure later, but for now I’m holding onto the idea that he’s not dead because of what I said above and because…
He has not yet been confronted to zombies!Gagi & Guge.
So it’s impossible to say for sure for now, but seeing as I’m an optimistic TG fan, I’m vouching for him to be alive (tbh I’m mostly worried about Yomo right now). Have a nice day Anon!
So for once I’m going to make a meta on how things might not be as bad as they look. It’s shocking, I know. There’s something I’ve noticed though, that was revealed this chapter that I have not seen anybody else talking about.
That the narrator who carries such an objective and flourishing style in narration that was almost absent from Tokyo Ghoul with the exception of the end of chapter and beginning of chapter brief segments, is none other than Furuta himself. Not only that but for most of the time, these narrations are completely objective and more descriptive of the situation around him rather than Furuta’s actual thoughts and emotions.
Clickbait title: why is naki going to survive? Find out below.
Hello Anon! Aah, I have so many thoughts and possibilities in mind that I don’t even know where to start. -_- To sum up, I think that Ishida is literally creating many different cliffhangers (for all the different fighting sides) and that we will find out about what happened to each of them when Kaneki comes back with all the food.
You see, Kaneki finally was able to will himself into making a choice…
and sticking by it…
so I believe the whole point is that, by the last chapter of vol 13 (ch142 or 143, me thinks), he will come back only to witness and be astonished by the consequences of this choice.
Anyway, looking at all that’s happening:
we don’t know what happened 6 hours ago to Urie meeting “Hide”
did he accept, did he refuse?
whatever happened to Takeomi and Yoriko?
then we have Hirako & the 0 squad vs Hajime & Ui
we might still get a few pages of this side in the next chapters before it gets its own cliffhanger
we have Yomo vs Mutsuki & Aura
here’s what might happen but honestly I doubt we will see more of this side (and thus if Yomo survived) before Kaneki comes back
we have Ayato supposedly coming back from the depth of the 24th ward
will he be in time or not? if he’s back in time, where will he show up? Saving Touka and Hina? Or maybe Naki’s side?
Naki & Miza (and their respective gangs) vs the Oggai
big cliffhanger for Naki today, similar to Yomo’s during the Cochlea arc really, which is why I think it might not be the end yet for him (but then again, seeing the cliffhanger, I doubt we will see more of him before Kaneki comes back)
Finally we have Suzuya & co vs Touka & Hina & the “weak part of Goat”
which means bad news for everyone who doesn’t have plot armor (aka who isn’t Hina or Touka), but we will likely get more focus on this side until there is a bigger cliffhanger.
So I believe we will discover what happened to all of them when Kaneki comes back, in a similar fashion as with TG ch143, even if I don’t think :Re ch143 will be the very end (unless there is a third part but I doubt it). As I also explained here, Furuta said that he “has to win” this round so that Dragon will then be able to join the stage…
…as “the final enemy” (or “the hero” depending on which side you witness the conflict), which means to me that Furuta intends on wiping out as many of Kaneki’s allies as he can so that Kaneki will go berserk against him for the final showdown.
That’s why Ishida emphasized on Kaneki sticking by his choice and not going back in my opinion, so that he will feel absolutely awful about the consequences and wishing to seek the responsible party to destroy them.
Since you asked, more specifically now, about Touka and Juuzou:
I don’t think that Touka will die
but I also don’t think that Juuzou will try to spare her
even if he somehow did, “Furuta” being there with him won’t leave him much of a choice anyway
I’m not exactly sure of how all of it will happen yet, but since there is still the matter of her complicated pregnancy that is supposed to be a part of the plot [x]…
I tend to think that she will either be made into a hostage by the CCG (and her pregnancy will make her meet Kanou)
or she will somehow be taken in by the Clowns’ gang (since it’s possible Itori could have a role to play towards her pregnancy)
Again, I’m not completely sure yet of how this arc will keep going and what exactly will happen to Touka, but I just don’t see a happy reunion between her and Kaneki at the end of it, simply because it seems the most logical when it comes to the plot.
Finally, about Naki:
I was really upset at first, thinking that it might be the end, but then I thought about it, I even discussed it with other fans who didn’t like the idea of him being dead either, and we concluded that his cliffhanger is too similar to the one Yomo had in Cochlea to think that it’s definitely the end.
Besides, there is still the matter of Kanou supposedly bringing back Gagi and Guge, which is pointless if Naki is not here anymore to witness it so, while I’m less confident where Hooguro and Shousei are concerned, I don’t think Naki (or Miza) will die this time around.
However, I do think it’s impossible for either Miza or Naki to survive the Oggai without someone else’s help and, in my opinion, the options are:
Ayato => we know he is coming back from deep below, and initially I thought he’d save Touka and Hina, but if Touka is to be separated from the rest of Goat, it doesn’t seem logical for Ayato to show up there, especially when we’re all expecting him to. So that’s why I think that maybe Ayato and his group will arrive in time to help Naki and Miza
Nico => that’s @linkspooky‘s idea and hopefully they’ll write a great meta about this, but since ch129 hinted that the Clowns would most likely be involved in the current arc (as we saw with Roma and Rio already) and since Nico did things differently from Furuta before, they might save Naki for old times’ sake (since Nico was fond of Yamori).
I’m aware that some people think Naki activated his Kakuja (like @amon15 told me) but I’m not sure it will be enough to face the Oggai, which is why an exterior help might do the trick and save him and Miza (since I don’t think the point is to have Naki and Miza die, on the contrary, but then again I’m hoping @linkspooky will do a meta about this because they would explain way better than I).
TL;DR this arc is a real mess because it feels like many developments are possible, so I’m sorry if my thoughts don’t make sense. I believe Yomo, Hirako, Touka, Hina, Naki and Miza are/will be safe though (I really hope so), even if I don’t think Kaneki will find Touka to be with the others when he comes back (and there is still the matter of Ayato being on time or not to help either Naki’s side or Touka’s).
As always, the Clowns possibly being involved make it all more complex than it should be, so we will probably need to reach the very end of vol 13 (ch142 or 143 surely) before we can be sure of anything.
Sorry for the long answer, but I hope it helps. Have a nice day Anon!
I couldn’t have summed it better Anon! Yes, I also think it’s what’s going to happen, because the notion of “ghoul gangs” ultimately needs to disappear if coexistence is really to happen.
Remember how Kaneki said “let’s not kill humans otherwise ghouls will always be seen as preying on humans”? Obviously this is war so it’s not exactly something that makes sense to people who are fighting to defend their lives, but deep down he is right and yet Naki & the White Suits…
don’t seem to want to abide by it, precisely because it’s war, but also because it’s how they went on for their entire life so far.
That’s personally why I think that Naki and Miza will lose their respective gangs even if they’ll manage to survive, so that they can learn to live differently, by not thinking that a ghoul’s fate is to die fighting humans or fighting other ghouls.
Naki and the White Suits always clung to Yamori and we know what Yamori represents, so I think this arc is just the time for Naki to grow above it all, so that he’ll have a place in the new world, probably by Miza’s side. Exactly like it happened for Koma and Irimi. 🙂
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