Our Ciel haven’t grown at all since age of 10 – that’s why they are the same height
A lot of people say that but I don’t agree! Maybe he hasn’t grown too much height-wise but he doesn’t look the same he did three (almost four) years ago. RC’s face has matured in the same way too, with broader shoulders and a sharper face.
It isn’t always obvious, but I’d say there’s a clear difference between 10 year old Ciel and 13-14 year old Ciel… even if he’s the same height. I know Nina made a comment about him not growing but his face still looks noticeably different, RC doesn’t have the same roundness that Yana gives OC when he’s 10-11 years old.
The chapter hasn’t been released yet and I haven’t seen any spoilers for it yet. But a friendly Anon referred me to the cover of this month’s GFantasy magazine. And as I started to do here, I now wanted to write about possible symbolism in that drawing of Ciel in more detail.
At this point, the 2CT is very likely and I expect it to be revealed any chapter now. This cover picture now makes me think that chapter 129 may be very important in this regard. So this analysis will assume that our Ciel had a twin and that the 2CT is true.
The person shown on the cover is clearly our Ciel because of the visible contract mark in his right eye. He’s wearing blue clothes that make him seem like royalty (royal blue, the ermine fur coat,…). Ciel is often depicted as a king and there’s often the metaphor of a game of chess where Ciel is the king, as well. As the Earl of Phantomhive, as the Watchdog and with Sebastian’s power he is indeed quite powerful so the image of a king fits him well.
However, in this picture it’s not our Ciel who’s wearing the crown fitting to his outfit. The crown is placed on a skull which rests in Ciel’s arms. Since the skull seems to be quite small I think it could be the skull of a child and if the 2CT is really true I guess it’s most likely that this skull represents the twin. The white lily growing out of its right eye socket mirrors our Ciel’s contract mark which makes his resemblance to our Ciel more obvious, indicating that it’s the twin indeed. So the crown resting on the skull’s head instead of our Ciel’s could symbolize that – as the 2CT suggests – the twin was the real Ciel and our Ciel really stole his twin’s identity and therefore the title as Earl, Watchdog and maybe through the twin’s sacrifice even Sebastian’s powers.
The skull and also the white lily stand for death. And if we disregard the possibility that the twin may have been revived, he should indeed be dead. At least our Ciel must think that his twin died on that day in the cult and that he is no longer alive.
Another interesting detail in that cover image is the knife that our Ciel is holding in his other hand. It looks very similar to the one the cultists used to stab (probably) the twin:
While it was the cultists who actively killed the twin there’s a chance that our Ciel is not completely innocent, either. There have been scenes before that imply that our Ciel may have sacrificed his brother in order to survive himself. Or at least that’s how our Ciel might see it now.
And the knife in his hand on the cover picture makes it seem as if our Ciel killed his twin.
So in my opinion that image has many details which support the 2CT and which also imply that our Ciel feels responsible for his brother’s death. And since it’s the cover of the magazine that publishes chapter 129 in a few days it could mean that we’ll finally learn some things about what really happened on that day in the cult (or at least it seems like the story is getting closer to revealing some truths about that). We’ll see in a few days…
Okay I keep seeing posts that are like a paragraph about how they hope kuro ends with Ciel alone and abandoned and Sebastian killing him and everyone being happy without him and not missing him so you know what? Alternate version.
Somehow Sebastian is thwarted from getting Ciel’s soul. He wasted like four years serving Ciel, nothing comes of it, he’s still starving and he’s sent back to hell indefinitely to suffer alone and hungry. Literally no one on earth cares or misses him. He doesn’t even get a funeral. Everyone is happy and at peace. Ciel grows up healthy and surrounded by people who are a good influence and help him and through that, he gets a bit better. After awhile, no one even remembers he had a butler.
This is honestly how I’ve always imagined Kuro ending like
Everyone who cares about Ciel starts to realise the impact Sebastian is having on him and becomes increasingly disillusioned. When they find out what he is they realise their loyalty is with Ciel and sort of gang up to bring him down. In his final moments Sebastian realises how conceited he’d been in thinking humans were weak and Ciel realises that the true power was the friends he made along the way.
Natalie Portman being confused by the fact that you have to say “hi” to someone before starting a conversation in France got me like ?????
“I feel there’s a lot of rules of politeness and codes of behavior there you have to follow. […] A friend of mine taught me that when you go in some place you have to say “bonjour” before you say anything else, then you have to wait two seconds before you say something else. So if you go into a store you can’t be like “do you have this in another size,” or they’ll think you’re super rude and then they’ll be rude to you.” [X]
So that’s it guys. French are not rude, we just don’t like it when people don’t say “Hello” or “Hi” when they start a conversation.
Don’t everyone say “Hi” before they ask something to someone? What’s next? Saying please is also a french thing or others countries does that too?
Canada is similar. We say sorry and please. The Hello thing seems strange, but it actually makes sense.
Bro, this threw me for a loop when I moved up north. Like in the southern United States you say “Hi, how are you?” And then make a few seconds of small talk before you ask your question or order your food and when I went to Connecticut they were like “What do you want?” Without any hello or anything. In other places they just STARE at you waiting on you to place your order and gtfo.
I laid my hand over my chest the first time, and the only way to describe my look was “aghast” before I said “Good lord!” My husband said it’s the most southern thing he’s seen me do. He thought it was hilarious. But…. Like??? That’s rude as fuck??????? Don’t y’all say say “Hello” before throwing your demands at someone??
maybe this is why everyone thinks new yorkers are rude
this is absolutely why ppl think new englanders r rude. no one has any fucking manners
african culture, at least in ghana, demands you greet a person before you ask them something. if youre in an open market they may even ignore you if you dont.
We do this in Australia as well. If you just started straight off saying “yeah I want XXXX” we’d think you’re rude as all fuck. You say hi, then make your request. It’s basic acknowledgement of the other person as a person rather than some random request-filling machine.
Huh. Speaking as a New Englander, I usually go with “Excuse me,” but sometimes “hi” or “hey,” but with no pause – it’ll be, “Excuse me, hi, I was looking for X?” From my POV, it seems rude to get too chatty and waste some stranger’s time; I assume they have better things to do than make small talk with me, so I just get my request out there so they can answer me and get back to whatever needs doing. I always thank folks for their help afterwards, if that helps?
(The rules of etiquette are strange. People say New Englanders are rude and cold, but once during an unexpected snowstorm here in Seattle, my car got stuck and I was standing by the side of the road at a busy intersection in the snow for half an hour waiting for my housemate to come pick me up, and not a single person stopped. Back in Massachusetts, every other car on the road would’ve been pulling up to check to see if I was okay, if my phone was working, did I need a lift, etc.)
No but this was the first thing my cousin told me in France? you never ever ever start a conversation with anyone, not even like “Nice weather today, huh?” without saying Bonjour first. You HAVE to greet them or, just like Ghana, they’ll ignore the shit out of you, you rude little fucker
(And “excuse me” or “pardon me” doesn’t cut it. you still have to open with bonjour)
[and I can’t speak for New England but coming from Chicago and then moving Out West where the culture is VERY influenced by the South and DETERMINED to think of themselves as small town folk… I HATE when I have to make small talk before ordering food??? Like, if it’s a coffee shop that’s pretty much empty I’ll chit chat for a few seconds, but I’m still not going to make inane conversation about the weather unless the weather is extreme.
In a big city it is rude as fuck to waste my time making small talk with me when we are not even friends or neighbors??? I am here to get shit done. There are four other people in line behind me, and I don’t want to waste their time. I am here, I HAVE MY ORDER ALREADY DECIDED BY THE TIME I GET TO THE FRONT BECAUSE I AM NOT A CAVE WOMAN, and I am being polite by saying both Please and Thank You and not wasting other people’s daylight.]
I live in a small northern city, and I feel it would be rude to engage someone in more than maaaaaybe a sentence of small talk before placing my order. In addition to feeling I was wasting their time, I’d feel like I was demanding emotional labour (small-talk is emotional labour for *me*) that they weren’t being paid to give.
so bizarre. New Yorker here. Saying hi, how are you, etc before these kinds of commercial interactions is what’s rude to me – because ffs, there are people in line behind you, we have lives, move it along. It’s really just a dramatic cultural difference – but borne of a real practical necessity.
Oh my god saying ‘hi’ takes less than A SINGLE SECOND YOU ARE NOT WASTING ANYBODY’S TIME
In Spain you have to say hello to people before you talk to them even people who work in retail deserve that bare minimum courtesy hello??
Transplanted New Yorker here, and the feeling here is: people who work in retail deserve the bare minimum courtesy you would afford anyone else, which is to not waste their time. You maybe say a half-second “hi” and/or possibly “excuse me” to be sure you have their attention, then you get to the point as quickly and concisely as possible. You don’t wait to get a “hi” back, you probably don’t ask “how are you”, you definitely don’t talk about the weather. You smile and keep your tone of voice courteous-to-friendly, you say please, you thank them when you’re done, and you do. not. waste. their. time.
Except ”time” is really only shorthand for the concept: you don’t intrude on their lives more than you have to. NY is a very very crowded city which allows for very little personal space, so New Yorkers have developed a form of courtesy that involves minimizing our unavoidable intrusions on each other. Which is why we hold doors without making eye contact, and why we tend to feel that in any interaction with a stranger, it’s actively rude to do anything but get to the point immediately.
Since that’s apparently not a universal concept, let me just say that’s kinda why I say ‘hi’ and ‘have a nice day’ most of the times when I answer asks (and I thought that not everyone doing it was… because it was the internet lol but maybe not).
No kidding, but if you travel to most West European countries, you better get used to saying just “hi” or at least “excuse me” before asking for anything else, otherwise you’re bound to be answered by someone saying “h-e-l-l-o” in very slow motion or deadly glaring to make you understand you’re being displeasing af.
Speaking for my country, obviously not everyone living in France does it (because some people are #rude), but if you want your interlocutors to answer with the minimal courtesy, especially when you’re the one asking, you’d better do the formal minimum as well.
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