Hi Anon and don’t worry, I totally agree with you! In my opinion, there are two reasons this statement sounds weird:
to avoid confirming/denying the UT = Cedric theory, because him caring about the P family is simply linked to whatever happened with Claudia
because, if the UT = Cedric theory is true, UT’s probably not exactly the best parental figure anyway.
#1 is just the way Sensei rolls, so moving on to #2: we’re talking about someone who, despite obviously caring about the P family in his own way, still let the Campania arc happened after realizing that Ciel was on the same ship, to say nothing of him becoming (unless he already was) a mass-murderer with a smile on his face.
Of course, UT’s reasoning during the Campania arc was that Ciel would definitely be safe because Seb would protect him…
…but that doesn’t make UT less of an asshole in general, and same goes for possibly knowing that the Midfords were there too but deciding that
¯_(ツ)_/¯
they would surely be safe because they are skilled + Ciel wouldn’t let anything happen to them anyway.
So, as I was saying, if UT somehow is Cedric, then I doubt he ever was “daddy of the year”, if just because if he’s Cedric, then how comes Tanaka was all that Vincent and Frances had left after Claudia passed away? It doesn’t even matter whether or not he was around or her husband or whatever. From the moment they were 15 and 12/13 years old, the least to do is to keep an eye on them immediately after.
But hey, while we’re on the subject, this is UT during the Weston arc…
and sometimes I really wish I could wave in front of his face and say “hi, Shinigamis are originally humans too, you know?”.
I mean, I’m aware that we didn’t know about the true nature of Shinigamis back then, but still personally I think that speaks volumes about UT’s current psychology not being what you’d call “usual”, which is why it’s not so surprising that he’d fit on the margin of society.
Then again, it was implied that he didn’t have a very happy existence, so it makes sense that we know he can care about others (obviously he showed us that with Vincent and Ciel), but it’s just often not… demonstrated in the best way or for the most logical reasons.
This is my example of Tanaka apparently being the only parental figure Frances and Vincent had left after Claudia passed away yet again, no matter if the UT = Cedric theory is true or not…
Because in my conception of UT’s character and considering how he’s still crying about Vincent in canon, I really wouldn’t be surprised if UT turned out to be utterly depressed after Claudia’s death (especially if he was in love with her), until he remembered that she had kids (who possibly are also his)
he might as well keep an eye on.
So you see, for all we know initially it probably even wasn’t directly for the sake of Claudia’s kids that he became one of Vincent’s evil nobles, that is, until he got attached to Vincent too. In that case (sorry for rambling xD), it’s the same thing for that weird sentence of ch131…
…that I personally chose to interpret as UT implying that he would care about the twins “because they’re Phantomhives” (as in “related to Claudia/Vincent”) and not because he’s possibly their grandfather.
Again, I don’t know if the reason for that is that he was so enthralled by Claudia that it was not even about his own feelings at first but about what he thinks she would have wanted, or just that he simply doesn’t know how to act in a normal way and thus all that he’d rather do is awkwardly care from afar.
TL;DR UT is such a pain as a character sometimes, because he’s definitely selfish and he acts terribly, but at the same time you can’t really doubt of how much he cares and gets involved when it comes to Claudia’s family:
if he’s Cedric, he possibly abandoned Frances and Vincent (whether or not he was around in the first place) for a few years after Claudia died, which kinda sucks,
but he still ended up coming back as “the Undertaker” after a few years and dedicated a large part of his time to helping Vincent with the Watchdog duty
also he barely knew the twins that he had already decided he’d care about them just because they were related to Claudia/Vincent
Caring about Ciel didn’t stop him from throwing him off a staircase though, because he knew Seb would protect Ciel and he wanted to get to Seb
and yet, UT’s involvement in the Campania and Weston arcs could also be seen as possibly trying to get to the Queen, because the Watchdog duty remains one of the two big threats that could end up killing Ciel.
Anyway, sorry for rambling. x) As you can see, I love how complex UT’s character is but I agree that it’s slightly painful how full of contradictions he seems to be. :3 Maybe knowing more about him will help us understanding him or his motivations better though, so please just take everything with a grain of salt!
I hope it’s a little helpful, have a nice day as well Anon. ^3^
Thanks for reading and no worries :)) it’s an argument (with the doubt that shinigamis can reproduce in the first place) that was used more than once and I hadn’t meant to imply that that his other lockets weren’t important in the first place, because clearly they’re part of his treasure.
So I’ll clear up the misunderstanding but first, I have two arguments to oppose to yours:
the story is about Ciel Phantomhive & Sebastian Michaelis
so I don’t want to make a generality, but I think Sensei wouldn’t seem to insist so much on UT if his link to Ciel’s family wasn’t particularly plot-relevant (as opposed to just being a part of UT’s character)
again, not to make a generality, but you can have several people you’re extremely close to and fond of (friends for example), but fall in love with just one person. In other words, I think that’s a pattern with his lockets too: UT liked them all for different reasons.
this is Druitt’s example here, he’s so damn funny that UT protected him from everyone on the Campania, including from drowning, but I’d still say that Druitt is less important than Ciel for UT.
Whether these hypothetical feelings were reciprocated we don’t know, but that doesn’t really matter since we’re focusing on UT’s point of view. So my point is that whatever I said above works no matter if the UT = Cedric theory is true or not, because the only argument my post about UT is based on is the idea that UT possibly was very much in love with Claudia. 🙂
In fact, UT = Cedric is not plot relevant, at least as far as we currently know (it doesn’t change any big element of the plot). I mean, it gives UT a name and that’s why I like it, but basically that’s it. What’s relevant (and already canon) is that UT ended up keeping an eye on Claudia’s family probably because of Claudia herself. That’s why I said above that UT said he “would care about the twins because they’re Phantomhives” (as in “related to Claudia/Vincent”) and not because he’s possibly their grandfather.”
Again, I’m not saying that he’s not keeping an eye on other people as well, but the plot revolves around Ciel & Seb, so UT’s careful watch over them as well as Claudia’s locket will most likely always get a bigger focus than the other lockets, but that’s not particularly relevant to whether UT is Cedric or not in my opinion.
TL;DR my post above is unrelated to UT being Cedric or not, it’s all about UT keeping an eye on Claudia’s family because he initially cared about her a great deal or (if he didn’t love her) simply because he found her very interesting. That’s what I was trying to explain about ch131. 🙂
I hope I’m the one making sense ^^
The arguments against the UT = Cedric theory are more than a few though, so no worries if you don’t think it’s possible, you’re not the only one. Thanks again for reading!
Hi Anon and don’t worry, I totally agree with you! In my opinion, there are two reasons this statement sounds weird:
to avoid confirming/denying the UT = Cedric theory, because him caring about the P family is simply linked to whatever happened with Claudia
because, if the UT = Cedric theory is true, UT’s probably not exactly the best parental figure anyway.
#1 is just the way Sensei rolls, so moving on to #2: we’re talking about someone who, despite obviously caring about the P family in his own way, still let the Campania arc happened after realizing that Ciel was on the same ship, to say nothing of him becoming (unless he already was) a mass-murderer with a smile on his face.
Of course, UT’s reasoning during the Campania arc was that Ciel would definitely be safe because Seb would protect him…
…but that doesn’t make UT less of an asshole in general, and same goes for possibly knowing that the Midfords were there too but deciding that
¯_(ツ)_/¯
they would surely be safe because they are skilled + Ciel wouldn’t let anything happen to them anyway.
So, as I was saying, if UT somehow is Cedric, then I doubt he ever was “daddy of the year”, if just because if he’s Cedric, then how comes Tanaka was all that Vincent and Frances had left after Claudia passed away? It doesn’t even matter whether or not he was around or her husband or whatever. From the moment they were 15 and 12/13 years old, the least to do is to keep an eye on them immediately after.
But hey, while we’re on the subject, this is UT during the Weston arc…
and sometimes I really wish I could wave in front of his face and say “hi, Shinigamis are originally humans too, you know?”.
I mean, I’m aware that we didn’t know about the true nature of Shinigamis back then, but still personally I think that speaks volumes about UT’s current psychology not being what you’d call “usual”, which is why it’s not so surprising that he’d fit on the margin of society.
Then again, it was implied that he didn’t have a very happy existence, so it makes sense that we know he can care about others (obviously he showed us that with Vincent and Ciel), but it’s just often not… demonstrated in the best way or for the most logical reasons.
This is my example of Tanaka apparently being the only parental figure Frances and Vincent had left after Claudia passed away yet again, no matter if the UT = Cedric theory is true or not…
Because in my conception of UT’s character and considering how he’s still crying about Vincent in canon, I really wouldn’t be surprised if UT turned out to be utterly depressed after Claudia’s death (especially if he was in love with her), until he remembered that she had kids (who possibly are also his)
he might as well keep an eye on.
So you see, for all we know initially it probably even wasn’t directly for the sake of Claudia’s kids that he became one of Vincent’s evil nobles, that is, until he got attached to Vincent too. In that case (sorry for rambling xD), it’s the same thing for that weird sentence of ch131…
…that I personally chose to interpret as UT implying that he would care about the twins “because they’re Phantomhives” (as in “related to Claudia/Vincent”) and not because he’s possibly their grandfather.
Again, I don’t know if the reason for that is that he was so enthralled by Claudia that it was not even about his own feelings at first but about what he thinks she would have wanted, or just that he simply doesn’t know how to act in a normal way and thus all that he’d rather do is awkwardly care from afar.
TL;DR UT is such a pain as a character sometimes, because he’s definitely selfish and he acts terribly, but at the same time you can’t really doubt of how much he cares and gets involved when it comes to Claudia’s family:
if he’s Cedric, he possibly abandoned Frances and Vincent (whether or not he was around in the first place) for a few years after Claudia died, which kinda sucks,
but he still ended up coming back as “the Undertaker” after a few years and dedicated a large part of his time to helping Vincent with the Watchdog duty
also he barely knew the twins that he had already decided he’d care about them just because they were related to Claudia/Vincent
Caring about Ciel didn’t stop him from throwing him off a staircase though, because he knew Seb would protect Ciel and he wanted to get to Seb
and yet, UT’s involvement in the Campania and Weston arcs could also be seen as possibly trying to get to the Queen, because the Watchdog duty remains one of the two big threats that could end up killing Ciel.
Anyway, sorry for rambling. x) As you can see, I love how complex UT’s character is but I agree that it’s slightly painful how full of contradictions he seems to be. :3 Maybe knowing more about him will help us understanding him or his motivations better though, so please just take everything with a grain of salt!
I hope it’s a little helpful, have a nice day as well Anon. ^3^
Yeah, I’ve been thinking about that, too! Yana said that she had the idea of the (potential) main villain and started dropping hints about them from the beginning (vol.1). At the moment the Queen and Undertaker seem to be the two likeliest “main villain”/”antagonist” candidates, but as you said, there’s no mention of them in vol.1.
So who knows, maybe Yana indeed meant real Ciel when she said “main
villain” (“last boss” in Japanese) in that blog post! And that would be
very interesting because ever since 2CT became popular in the JP fandom,
there has always been another popular theory related to it, namely the “real Ciel mastermind theory”
(シエル黒幕説) according to which real Ciel was involved in the murders of Rachel & Vincent and was the one who stabbed Tanaka in ch19!
Bonus:
There are many 2CT hints in vol.1, especially in chapter2!! 😀 For example:
“This ring has seen its owners deaths many times, my grandfather, my father, and… (probably “my brother” = real Ciel)“ (ch2)
and
“When I close my eyes, I can hear *THAT* scream” (probably referring to real Ciel’s death scream) (ch2)
also this scene where Sebastian recalls that scene where Ciel claimed that he’s “Ciel Phantomhive” (in quotation marks, btw) and smirks.
Since Sebastian is the protagonist of Kuroshitsuji, Undertaker is depicted as a villain-ish [character], but if you read this month’s chapter [*ch131], you might be like “Ohh?”. – Toboso
The way Yana wrote it very much sounds like Undertaker is not supposed to be a villain [and even without Yana’s tweet, there are many hints throughout the series that Undertaker has some kind of special attachment to the Phantomhives], so I guess we can safely exclude him from the “possible main villain list”.
So that leaves us with the following people
RC (indirectly mentioned in ch.2)
the Queen (mentioned in ch.3)
Chlaus (appeared in ch.1 and was mentioned in ch.3)
as “main villain candidates” – of which the Queen is, of course, the likeliest suspect for now, but personally, I also kinda hope that RC is another villain xD
Bonus:
The literal translation of this line is “I din’t thinkyou would go as far as to use THAT MAN [*Chlaus] to get them”. So Chlaus isn’t just a random informant, but is somewhat famous and also feared by Italian mafias, hmmmm…
🙄
🙄
🙄
That man here does shady and highly shocking stuff but he no real enemy.
It’s been pointed out that Vincent seemed to have some idea that his life might be in danger as he told Diederich to watch out for the twins if anything should happen to him. Of course, Diederich thought this was odd at the time, but Vincent’s words most likely seemed oddly prophetic to him later.
There are popular theories that this might be because Claudia had been murdered, and Vincent knew he might be as well. Yet, Vincent apparently had no idea how violent his killer(s) would be or that his boys would be in danger. Him asking Diederich to watch over them if something happened to him gives this some evidence. Vincent apparently thought the boys still had a future. After all, if he had thought that the twins might be in such danger, he probably would have taken a lot more precaution.
This makes me wonder again about Claudia and her death. If Claudia had been killed, then it stands to reason her murder was most likely different because there are zero hints that Vincent and Frances suffered anything even remotely comparable to the twins. Both were able to grow to be adults, marry, and have children. If all this is true, then why was this attack on Vincent and his household so much more violent? What had changed? Had it become more personal somehow?
There’s still a lot of questions out there. Either way, it looks like Vincent might have thought that he would die, but I don’t think even he knew just how badly all those around him would suffer.
…the reason Vincent didn’t expect anything to happen to his sons if himself were to be killed probably has to do with how he and Frances were spared if/when Claudia was killed too.
However, I’m not 100% certain that the reason the twins were decided to suffer and probably to eventually die signs the attack of December 14th as being more personal than what possibly happened with Claudia.
Of course it’s possible that Vincent did something that was even worse than what Claudia herself did, but in my opinion, it could also simply be that the Queen/Brown (yes, I’m totally calling them out) got tired to have yet another Watchdog becoming useless after Claudia, whatever the reason was, and this time they decided to not even try their luck with Vincent’s heirs.
The Queen needs a Watchdog, yes, but assuming that Vincent found out about what happened to his mother and why she possibly was killed (hence why he knew he would eventually die like her), maybe the Queen decided not to let a single survivor the second time, so as to not reproduce what happened with Vincent possibly trying to get revenge for what happened to his mom.
…Which failed, obviously, since Ciel came back with a demon and thoughts of revenge, but hey, at least she tried. Anyway…
…these two panels don’t really help us with the idea that Frances and Vincent managed to mourn their mom properly and found a way to be okay with how she died. In fact, it’s rather reminiscent of how Ciel himself can’t address the topic of his dead parents.
That’s why I think it’s important not to erase the possibility of other Phantomhives seeking revenge in Kuro’s plot, like Vincent before he died (because of what happened to Claudia), or even Frances currently (for both Claudia and Vincent, or just for Ciel’s & Lizzie’s sakes).
Hello! Ah, very interesting question. I’ll answer it but I just want to precise that my thoughts on the subject change pretty often, so take the current version with a grain of salt. 🙂
I’ll tell you what though, if Klaus isn’t mistaken…
then yes, I think UT acted as one of the evil nobles and full-time mortician ever since Vincent’s time as the Watchdog. So basically he did the same thing for Vincent than he did for Ciel until the Campania arc: info broker, autopsies, taking care of dead bodies…
I think it’s rather clear he liked his job as a mortician
since he even took care of dead bodies from hospitals, both because of the job in itself and the position that it brought him as a center part of the Watchdog’s investigations. However I wonder if the info broker and doing autopsies parts weren’t Watchdog-only.
Anyway, I always wondered if the situation wasn’t different for when Claudia was the Watchdog though and he became a mortician full time only after she died. Sometimes I even wonder if Vincent had any idea about the ties between his mom and UT, if Klaus is right and UT is the second of Vincent’s evil nobles.
To be honest, not so long ago I initially thought that if UT was one of Claudia’s evil nobles too (or just simply close to her), it would be logical for him to already be by Vincent’s side when he became the Watchdog at 15 years old. However, ever since ch131 I changed my mind.
This chapter kinda confirmed that UT’s main focus definitely is “the Watchdog”: he apparently met our!Ciel when he was 7, he didn’t bother sending gifts for the twins’ birthday unlike Klaus and Dee, which shows he kept more of a distance than other evil nobles and which contrasts with how much he seems to care for this family (or with sketches like this).
I’m not saying that Vincent didn’t want him at home or anything, just that UT could have made some kind of promise to himself and/or Claudia about keeping an eye on the Watchdogs that would follow in her footsteps, which is why he never involved himself more than that with anyone besides the Watchdog, ever since Claudia died.
Besides, it’s something I pointed out before, but I wouldn’t be surprised if UT’s strange appearance was, like, 30% depression and 70% on purpose which would imply that he doesn’t want any reason to fit in either. I mean, we all saw it, he cleaned up good during the Weston arc, so there must be a reason he’d rather constantly act the part of a creeper, especially when he’s “the most beautiful character” of the entire cast.
All that to say, right now I think Claudia’s death was a transition in UT’s history with the P family and he became the character we met in ch6 probably within the first 3 years of Vincent’s time as the Watchdog. And in that case, Klaus is not wrong and UT officially met “Earl Vincent Phantomhive” after he became ”the Undertaker” and after Vincent had already tricked Diedrich.
There you go. That’s my current take on it, which is if UT’s not Cedric K. Ros lmao. I’ll spare you the very complicated versions with this additional detail. xD
Sorry for the confusing explanation, but I hope it helps a little, even if it is completely theoretical! Have a very enjoyable weekend Anon. 🙂
I want to address two different things, the first point because it is strange, the second point because I saw a lot of possible misunderstanding.
1) Vincent and foreshadowing
I want to talk about this scene
that left me a bit ???…
because nothing particularly important is being said and yet Vincent says something that sounds like a premonition with a rather ominous face and what made me address this is that it’s not the first time.
So, here I am, wondering if the possible regular pattern doesn’t mean something in particular, because we also had a possible foreshadowing moment about the current arc (probably referring to the twins’ conflict itself) from his own mouth in ch107.5…
And I already made a post on the subject, but in ch131 we had several Evil Nobles showing up on the same day as Vincent asking Diedrich for a favor, namely, to look after his sons should anything happen to him, 3 years before anything actually happened to him, as if he was expecting something to happen to him soon.
…going as far as to add after “You never know”:
In case you were wondering, yes I know this sounds crazy and I had never considered something as random as “Vincent had small precognitive powers” before this chapter, but I find that this makes for a strange and regular pattern. And yes, for all we know, it’s just Vincent breaking the 4th wall because Yana enjoys writing him like that, but still…
We also know, thanks to ch103, that the Phantomhive family share a special lineage, even if the details are still unknown to this day, aside from the fact that it allows our!Ciel to see Shinigamis when he shouldn’t be able to.
Obviously it’s hard to reach any conclusion until we see more flashbacks of Vincent, but it’s something to keep in mind in my opinion, just in case it’s useful later. x)
2) Vincent and our!Ciel
This other point focuses solely on ch132 and starts with this scene:
Judging by Vincent’s silent glance, I agree with @akumadeenglish‘s interpretation that he was carefully observing his sons’ reaction and ideas at the time. The big question is, whose words did he appreciate the most?
I know many might think that it’s real!Ciel’s, since he seemed like the perfect heir when our!Ciel was weaker and not supposed to inherit anything, however I think ch132 is actually full of hints that Vincent took a real interest in how our!Ciel was thinking.
If you don’t believe me, take a look at the discussion with Frances:
But I personally didn’t read this scene as Vincent just shrugging it off because he didn’t care about his second son dying, or what should happen to the family if his heir died, but rather because he simply didn’t agree with Frances on the matter of our!Ciel not being strong enough to take on the Watchdog duty.
The second hint is that he took both his sons with him when he went to inspect the domain…
…even though many readers interpreted his words from before as not being very trusting of our!Ciel’s abilities. However, if he really didn’t think that our!Ciel could be a good and strong heir, then why did he even take him with him and real!Ciel in the first place? Why didn’t he appear to educate them differently, except maybe when it comes to fighting?
Finally, not everyone might want to call these hints, but this is Vincent in the side story With Father! and ch107.5:
And he doesn’t seem to particularly dislike the fact that our!Ciel is the current Watchdog (in case you were wondering, he never calls him “Ciel” so we can safely assume he knows which son’s adventures he’s reading x)).
So back to this scene…
I think he actually found our!Ciel’s words interesting because, compared to the twin, our!Ciel’s proposition seemed more genuinely good-hearted and thus different from what he might have been expecting from a potential future Watchdog. However, this isn’t really surprising when we know what our!Ciel wanted to do as an adult and why.
Our!Ciel is kinder at heart and appears to be more selfless than his twin brother and I believe Vincent caught on that through our!Ciel’s answer (”granting everyone’s wishes sounds difficult”) & that it’s what possibly interested him.
Because friendly reminder again that Vincent said that Kuroshitsuji (so literally our!Ciel acting as the Watchdog) was “interesting” and that it was something “the Undertaker recommended”, which means that Vincent seems to agree with UT when it comes to our!Ciel:
3) Conclusion?
1 => I don’t know how seriously we’re supposed to take Vincent’s words when he speaks about the future (see the examples above), because there is still a possibility that Yana enjoys breaking the 4th wall with using his character.
However, considering we still know nothing about how supernatural the Phantomhive lineage might be, I’m going to keep these examples in mind just in case there is a reason Vincent can foreshadow things.
2 => I don’t think Vincent ever casted off his second child (our!Ciel) as being weak, useless and not making for a good heir because:
he didn’t want to address the subject with Frances
he took our!Ciel along with real!Ciel when he explained what the duties of a lord were
there are hints that he shared UT’s opinion on how interesting it is that our!Ciel appears to act and think differently from the rest of his ancestors.
Hello! Are you talking about this scene by any chance?
If so, I personally disagree: I interpreted this scene as him saying that both twins had the potential to be interesting in his eyes because he doesn’t only care about the twin who is going to become Vincent’s heir as the Watchdog (but I might be wrong, as with everything).
I do think he “cares” about them as separate and different persons though if that’s your question (so, not just because of their lineage, even if the fact that they are Phantomhives is the main part of UT’s motivation to involve himself with them in the first place), in his own strange creepy and desperate way, because…
this is how he acted with our!Ciel
and this is how he probably acted with the twin.
You could argue that he only cares because he has a goal in mind and that he needs to use the boys, but…
since I definitely can’t say that it seemed he only cared about Vincent because of his Phantomhive lineage, I don’t see why it would be different with his sons.
In the end, I really think that any difference in the interpretation of UT’s character comes down to how one interprets his words in ch105. You have my personal interpretation here and that’s the reason I tend to think that UT isn’t after harming Ciel…
…and Seb seems to agree. 🙂
I hope I answered your question? Please have a nice day Anon!
vincent phantomhive thought it was adorable to dress up his twins in the same outfit even though he literally couldn’t tell them apart bc of it
Sometimes I think about how they managed to tell the babies apart until the boys could talk and know their own name and it kind of keeps me up at night.
OMG, that translation of Vincent’s line you mentioned has always bothered me ever since ch101!! It’s clearly a mistranslation because the original line goes
「もし私に何かあっても きっとお前たちの力になってくれる」
Literal translation: “Even if something happened to me, [Diederich] would certainly assit *you* [plural].”
There’s absolutely no vagueness, no ambiguity whatsoever in this sentence, Yana clearly used the plural suffix (お前 + 達) to signalise that Vincent 100% meant “you” in plural, referring to the twins – including our Ciel. So translating this word to “him” [*singular] is undoubtedly a mistake on the translator’s part.
What makes me angry about this is that the YP translator did not mistranslate this line once, but TWICE. I mean, back in ch101 the 2CT was not confirmed yet, so I can understand that the translator might have had some doubts and therefore used singular instead of plural (this doesn’t change the fact that it’s a clear mistranslation though), but this time, the translator knew that there are twins and that Vincent was clearly talking to them. However, the translator didn’t correct their mistake, but just thoughtlessly copied and pasted the same text from ch101 with the same mistranslation and thus made Vincent look a like an abusive father who neglegts his second son (our Ciel) Imo this is very unprofessional and lazy work, I serisouly don’t understand what the translator was thinking! (>_<)
As for the boat trip thing, I didn’t notice until now, but yeah, it seems like another mistranslation!
The original line goes
「僕は翌日熱がぶり返し 一緒にボート遊びには行けなかった」
Literal traslation: “The next day, my fever returned, so I couldn’t go to the boat trip together [with them].”
So the others went to the boat trip, poor our Ciel had to stay at home – as it was shown in the latest chapter!
BONUS:
While we’re on the subject, I’d like to point out that the translation in this scene isn’t correct either.
The correct translation is
Rachel: “I’m okay now. Please go check on that child [*referring to our Ciel]”
Vincent: “Ah yes. He has just recovered, we can’t have him overexert himself and get sick again.”
As you can see, they both cared for our Ciel, their sickly second son. It’s a bit frustrating that some mistranslations make it seem like he was forgotten or even worse, neglected by his parents (which definitely wasn’t the case!) 😦
Ciel looked a demon dead in the eye, thought “This guy is gonna be a pain in the ass” and decided to name him after his dog that he found to be a pain in the ass as a kid.
This is pretty much almost the equivalent of naming Sebastian “Asshole” but much more indirect.
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