Hi Anon! Okay, so I’m so sorry for the delay but Soma is one of these characters for whom I’m currently really uncertain about what will happen to him.
Personally, here’s what I want him to do…
…which means that he’d learn about the 2CT and realize that our!Ciel had nothing to do with Agni’s death, that he’d stay by our!Ciel’s side despite everything that happened… because Soma is one of the few characters who really understand Ciel, despite Ciel keeping a lot of things to himself and sometimes acting harshly.
In other words, Soma becoming the Diedrich to Ciel’s Vincent would be amazing, because Ciel needs more people like him and Lizzie in his life. Of course Sieglinde and Edward are other characters who are slowly becoming closer to Ciel, but neither share the proximity that Soma has with Ciel in my opinion (Lizzie being yet on another level).
The problem (and the reason I’m not really certain of anything) is that Agni died. So, while I do think that Soma will most likely find out about the 2CT (thanks to Sieglinde and/or Ed probably), the question remains whether he’ll stay in England afterwards or not.
It’s a problem I initially had with Sieglinde back in the GW arc before Ciel made sure to save Wolfram, because how is Soma going to do on his own, without his khansama? Where will he live, what will he do? That’s why I can’t exclude the idea that Sensei maybe intends on leading him back to India until the final arc or something… ://
Of course, it’d be a development that I currently am not fond of, because I want Ciel and Soma to bond even more, I want Soma to tell Ciel what he really thinks and I want him to stay, but if Soma stays now that Agni is dead and that it really shook him…
it will possibly lead to Soma slowly becoming one of Ciel’s new Evil Nobles (so acting more serious indeed) and this might clash with what Agni wanted for his master.
Agni wasn’t very happy when he realized how Soma was used in Ciel’s plan to take the Sphere Music Hall down so, if Soma still decides to become Ciel’s Agni after everything that happened, it will most likely lead to more schemes like this, which is also why I’m not certain of what Sensei wants to do with Soma.
In my opinion, there are two big possibilities once the twin is dead/this arc is over:
Soma will stay and decide to become Ciel’s Agni at the end of this arc
Soma will realize that Ciel didn’t kill Agni but he won’t be able to stay in England after Agni’s death and so we will say goodbye to him until at least the final arc.
For now I’m really hoping for #1, because I love Soma and I think that everything he said in ch126 is relevant + would be helpful to Ciel’s character (especially since him and Ciel do parallel each other), but Agni’s death is creating a lot of uncertainty. ://
Mainly it depends on what Sensei wants to do with Ciel’s character. I mean, if Soma stays because he’ll still want to be Ciel’s Agni, then it implies more positive development for Ciel. If Soma attacks Ciel or if Soma finds out about the truth but still decides to leave however, then Ciel will blame himself even more…
and clearly this isn’t what he needs right now. ://
Sorry that this seems so confusing, Anon. I just… don’t know what’s more likely at this point. Hopefully Soma will stay, I truly hope he will for many reasons, but the master/servant dynamic is such a pattern in Kuro that, after being deprived of his, it kinda throws Soma’s character off-balance…
That’s why we’ll have to see what he does in this arc first, about the twin and about his anger.
Have a nice day Anon!
So I was rereading the curry arc and…
it reminded me that Soma apparently knows traditional Indian martial arts and also that the reason he initially saved Agni was because…
he wanted a new sparring partner.
So does this mean that Soma can actually fight? Because if so, then not only does the revenge wish suddenly make a lot more sense…
+ What I said above might tilt in favor of him staying in England after the current arc, since it’d mean that, while he would have no servant, at least he would be capable of taking care of his own safety against normal enemies (since being associated to Ciel remains dangerous).
But you know, the fact that we always only saw Agni fight is kinda similar to Seb always protecting Ciel: sometimes it makes us forget how capable their master actually are, while obviously not being on their butler’s level.
For example, Ciel does quite well with guns and, with the panels above, maybe it’s going to turn out that Soma is quite capable himself. So add that to his intelligence and I’d actually love for him to stay and become one of Ciel’s evil noble (instead of him going back to India).
Well, it seems everybody has already taken the place on the chess board (which is actually the floor in the Phantomhive manor and in the Sphere music hall).
We can see characters are associated with chess pieces, for example, Sebastian is equivalent to the Knight, O!Ciel and R!Ciel to the black and white Kings.
But there are also someone else.
Doll and Madam Red are the white and black Pawns, Joker is shown as the Bishop, and Vincent Phantomhive as the Queen. That is why I can asume, that: 1) All these people are relevant to the plot and will play their role soon 2) Doll and Joker will act on R!Ciel’s side/against O!Ciel, whereas Vincent and Madam Red on O!Ciel’s side/against R!Ciel (and it may work with the idea, that Madam Red recognized O!Ciel before her death) Perhaps, there are other explanations, but these ones seem quite obvious to me. If only I could play chess and understand more from this pages… But the only thing available to me is general knowledge about chess on the Internet. I’m sure that having a clue about chess pieces, their value and strategy will help to understand manga and even predict some events. So, if you’re into chess I’m looking forward to your comments. And in addition… White moves first.
Hello! Ahhh don’t worry Anon, I’m sure things will work out in the end. I mean look:
It’s obvious that Soma saw the twin and thinks that it was our!Ciel so he might try to seek revenge against him, but…
Sieglinde is with him. Sieglinde who knows that Ciel & Seb are the ones who brought Soma so that she could treat him, Sieglinde who saw what’s under Ciel’s eyepatch…
And so, depending on whether or not the twin was wearing an eyepatch when he attacked Soma and Agni, she can maybe help Soma with figuring out the truth about Ciel having a twin brother, so that Soma won’t become Ciel’s enemy.
Soma is angry and confused by everything that’s happened, which is why he’s not being rational right now, because he has no way to know about “another Ciel”, but Sieglinde might find out the truth and stop Soma.
I hope it makes sense Anon. 🙂 I, too, want Soma to stay and to become Ciel’s “Agni” like he initially wished for.
Have a nice day!
Hey Anon, please look above. 🙂 For now, I still think there is a possibility that the friendship between Soma and our!Ciel will survive, at least thanks to Sieglinde who knows that…
our!Ciel’s right eye holds the mark of a demonic contract when real!Ciel’s doesn’t.
And if Sieglinde cannot convince Soma that our!Ciel has a doppelgänger, then…
there is still Edward who, as their cousin, might reveal later to Ciel’s friends that he has an identical twin, if Paula holds enough info to make him understand.
TL;DR there is still hope and I wish Soma will still want to become Ciel’s Agni after this arc is over. ;_;
Hello! Ahhh don’t worry Anon, I’m sure things will work out in the end. I mean look:
It’s obvious that Soma saw the twin and thinks that it was our!Ciel so he might try to seek revenge against him, but…
Sieglinde is with him. Sieglinde who knows that Ciel & Seb are the ones who brought Soma so that she could treat him, Sieglinde who saw what’s under Ciel’s eyepatch…
And so, depending on whether or not the twin was wearing an eyepatch when he attacked Soma and Agni, she can maybe help Soma with figuring out the truth about Ciel having a twin brother, so that Soma won’t become Ciel’s enemy.
Soma is angry and confused by everything that’s happened, which is why he’s not being rational right now, because he has no way to know about “another Ciel”, but Sieglinde might find out the truth and stop Soma.
I hope it makes sense Anon. 🙂 I, too, want Soma to stay and to become Ciel’s “Agni” like he initially wished for.
Can we talk about the fact that it’s been almost two months since the beginning of the arc and that Edward is basically just jeopardizing his studies and his graduation from Weston (when men of the Midford family probably have been graduating from Weston for generations + he’s supposed to become his father’s heir) because Lizzie is more important to him?
And it’s probably the same for the others (although Harcourt is just in second year) since they had to make time to train with Sebastian before the Phantom five group could start, even if Ed has been out of school for longer.
I know they all have their own reasons to go along with Ciel’s plan, but still, the Starlight four killed other students from Weston and the Vice Principal and involved them into an incident with bizarre dolls, so Edward aside because Lizzie is currently in danger, none of the others should have bothered to jeopardize their own future, and yet they still did it.
That’s why I’m totally rooting for those kids ❤
Btw, this also probably means that…
…this poor lad on the right is currently the one who has to take care of everything by himself at Weston xD
Friendly reminder that it’s the end of November and this boy is very probably still jeopardizing his studies because he’s desperate about finding his little sister and bringing her home.
Oh hey, John Anon! xD Prison was alright, thank you! Actually I was allowed to get out way sooner than expected, because I was rather accurate on the matter of UT not favoring one twin over the other (as far as we know), so I’m free again!
it’s likely that Lizzie is at the manor or will be soon.
Finally, since Real!Ciel is the blue star and that Bravat serves him, I suppose that he shouldn’t be too far behind, same for the Lords Canopus and Vegas.
Also, Seb didn’t sense real!Ciel from before entering so he might not sense Bravat or the other lords either. 🙂
I hope it answers your question? Have a nice weekend John Anon!
Hello Anon! And actually, I did mention/imply the reason briefly here and here (scroll down to the last message), but I suppose I could elaborate a little. 🙂
It’s all in the chronology that I wrote here: Ciel’s “loyalty” to Victoria (or lack of, from her point of view) is precisely why I think that the Queen and John Brown might have decided to replace our!Ciel with his brother.
After all, Ciel lied to the Queen about the events of the circus arc, but she found out thanks to Brown and the Double Charles, which is why she tried to frame him for murder (Siemens’ murder who was killed by Grey).
He also tried to double cross her by hiding the SULIN after the Green Witch arc when the Queenspecificallywanted it, but she is not stupid and she realized what he was doing, so did John Brown, which is why Ciel was compared to his very murdered father in ch108.
So, I actually think that bringing back the twin would give the Queen a new and way more loyal and respectful Watchdog, one who’s also more of a pawn than our!Ciel was, because he’s been revived by them and might even be dependent on the blue sect to get blood transfusion from time to time (this last point is just speculation).
And as I was saying in another post, I just wouldn’t be surprised if someone were to tell our!Ciel that he isn’t needed anymore as the Watchdog in the next few chapters. Remember this scene?
I already explained here that chaos in the Parliament could be something that Victoria wanted to happen for her war plans, but what’s important is that the Double Charles (the Queen’s butlers) might show up soon on Seb’s notification, and honestly I wonder if they might not be the ones who will bring our!Ciel grim news.
One thing you have to understand is that the Queen’s current watchdog is “Ciel Phantomhive” and now that the twin is back, technically everything that his brother (our!Ciel) owned under the name “Ciel Phantomhive” could become his because he is the real Ciel Phantomhive and he looks identical to our!Ciel.
So, all in all, bringing back the twin, manipulating him so that he would want to hurt his brother (attacking Soma, killing Agni, using Lizzie…) and making the two brothers confront each other could be so that Victoria can get a brand new Watchdog, absolutely identical to the last one (with the same name, same network and all), except that he will be more “loyal” and already dead.
Does this make sense and does it help? I hope so because this is all I’ve got so far. xD
Have a nice weekend Anon 🙂
Reblogging this post because…
…seeing as our!Ciel pierced his ears after receiving the “Earl Phantomhive” title from the Queen more than 3 years ago…
…I wonder if the fact that the twin, who should have died 4 years ago, also now has his ears pierced in an absolutely similar fashion isn’t a hint that the twins are to look absolutely identical, even from the plot’s perspective.
What I mean is that bringing the twin back is one thing but piercing his ears just like our!Ciel is making sure that, the eyepatch aside, it should be impossible to differentiate them and I wonder if there isn’t a plot-related reason for that, like replacing the fake “Earl Ciel Phantomhive” with the real one (the twin), but without anybody being able to notice the exchange (if the Queen wants to replace her current watchdog/head of the P family for example, without many people noticing).
The eyepatch in itself isn’t even an issue, because the twin can wear one when he goes out or he can pretend that after almost 4 years his eye finally healed and no one would be able to start gathering proof that the twin isn’t our!Ciel.
…Unless, the earrings are part of the Watchdog’s appearance somehow (since Vincent had his ears pierced too), and thus the twin also wearing them means that he intends on taking his titles back since, between the two, he’s the rightful heir.
Dunno for sure, but I find it strange to push the mirroring symbolism down to the earrings (which is something neither had 4 years ago) now that the 2ct was confirmed and that we know there are two boys going by the name “Ciel Phantomhive”. I smell a doppelganger plan from the mastermind behind the sect.
Hello Anon! Just to be sure, you’re asking if I personally find there are hints that could indicate that UT still remains one of the suspects behind the twin’s revival? If so, yes, because there has to be a reason so many readers believe it’s him in the first place and, despite not being fond of the theory,
I avoid being biased as much as possible.
Anyway @akumadeenglish already gave a rather complete explanation as to why UT as the mastermind could work (although I still have questions of my own, namely what is the role of the lockets if the goal of the BD project so far was to bring back the twin, as well as why UT was in Germany and France apparently not so long ago if he was busy bringing back the twin) so please read her post.
Besides what she said, there are ch108 and ch120 since UT is definitely shown interacting with the twin, which means that he has to be involved in the current arc one way or another (either trying to slow/stop the experiment or being the one behind it).
Finally…
I’ve always wondered about the symbolism behind this cover (ch109, the beginning of the arc): our!Ciel, Lizzie, Seb and UT are drawn and we know that they’re all strongly involved with the current arc. However, what bothers me is that UT is holding a skeleton that appears to be quite small and so maybe it could be the twin’s (to indicate that the twin indeed died and was brought back to “life” in the current arc).
In that case, UT holding the skeleton (and being on the opposite side of Seb and Ciel) could mean that UT is the one behind his revival but… I still have some issues with possible plot holes at the time of ch129.
Maybe the “plot holes” will disappear with more canon content and more parts of the explanation with later chapters, but as of right now I still don’t like the “UT is the mastermind” theory so much, despite people and their hints. xD
I hope I answered your question though. Have a nice day Anon 🙂
I reread the arc in its integrity, so allow me to add to my previous answers two hints that might indicate that UT could be behind this, even if I still don’t entirely get his motivations if that’s the case:
The identical rooms: only someone who would have had the occasion to see what Ciel’s room was like could have recreated an absolutely similar one. Unless the room in itself was just a narrative hint that Sirius was the twin and not a hint towards who is behind the sect.
“It’s all for the blue star”: the entire sect seems to revolve around “the blue star” who is the twin and, considering the scale of UT’s obsession for the P family, it definitely sounds like something he might say/do.
At this point, we don’t know the whole truth behind this arc yet, so I’m still not fond of the theory that UT is the mastermind because it currently creates plot holes, but I certainly am not biased enough to ignore the few hints that might incriminate him.
Let’s see if we get anything new on the subject with next week’s chapter!
Of course if the twin is some kind of Bizarre Doll then he probably doesn’t have a soul anymore, but in any case that scene of ch120 is personally the main reason in my opinion as to why Tanaka won’t side with the twin: if he’s as angry/crazy as the attack on Soma and Agni seemed to prove, then he’s nothing like the young master Tanaka used to care after and thus Tanaka has no reason to choose his side over our!Ciel’s (which doesn’t mean he won’t be very sad).
One could even go further and say that, in the crack theory by @thedarkestcrow that Tanaka knew in advance that the twin was coming back**, these words of ch120 could be a direct allusion to the current situation. I used to think that this scene was about Tanaka blaming himself for the deaths of Vincent and Rachel (and maybe Claudia), but maybe it is in relation to the twin after all and Tanaka is already sad at the thought of the upcoming conflict between two children who used to love each other very much.
[**: I couldn’t find a more detailed post and I can’t recall if @thedarkestcrow detailed this crack theory more or if it was just something we discussed in private (please don’t hesitate to send a different link :)), so basically:
there is a chance that UT is not the one who brought back the twin, but he’s definitely involved as we saw with ch108/120, so it’s possible that he tried to slow/sabotage the experiment with the 4 Lords if he’s not the one behind it. [x]
also considering Frances’ rather odd behavior in the arc, definitely stopping Ed from being involved with Ciel’s investigation but apparently not trying to do anything to get Lizzie back (as far as we know), we wondered if she didn’t actually know (via UT?) why Lizzie ran away and who exactly was sheltered by the blue sect (the twin).
finally about Tanaka, considering the theory that he and Frances might have been working together to keep an eye on our!Ciel ever since he came back 4 years ago, if she knew about the twin, then she could have told him and maybe that could explain why Tanaka was nowhere to be seen in ch129 (if that’s not Yana’s mistake of course).
These are pure speculations, so don’t take it too seriously, but even if Tanaka wasn’t referring to the twin in ch120, I still think the panel fits when it comes to foreshadowing the current situation with the twins finally facing each other.]
If you meant general theories as to what’s going to happen in the next chapters/arc, then please check this post. About the chapter itself, it’s always hard to predict when we don’t even know how many pages it will have this time (and when Yana’s pace is unpredictable) but here are a few ideas:
Ciel might have an asthma attack (since it’s cold outside, he’s all wet from the rain and he’s upset about the situation)
Real!Ciel might start to explain why our!Ciel is a liar => aka maybe the beginning of a flashback as to what really happened in the cult/the day Sebastian was summoned but we will need more than one chapter to get the entire truth.
Lizzie and/or Bravat might appear alongside the twin
We might see what the other Lords, or at least Polaris, look like
I don’t think we will see anything besides the Phantomhive manor, which means no Sieglinde, no Soma and probably no Edward.
I’m hoping we get more decisive hints as to who brought back the twin and why.
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