I wonder if Tanaka is on the twin’s side?

midnight-in-town:

Hello! Well, short answer: obviously not, otherwise he wouldn’t have said…

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…this bubble meaning he had caught on our!Ciel’s lie a long time ago, chose to go along with it and isn’t involved with the twin’s revival. 

Long answer: a summary from this post

Crack theory by @thedarkestcrow that Tanaka knew in advance that the twin was coming back [so] his words of ch120 could be a direct allusion to the current situation:

  • there is a chance that UT is not the one who brought back the twin, but he’s definitely involved as we saw with ch108/120, so it’s possible that he tried to slow/sabotage the experiment with the 4 Lords if he’s not the one behind it. [x]
  • also considering Frances’ rather odd behavior in the arc, definitely stopping Ed from being involved with Ciel’s investigation but apparently not trying to do anything to get Lizzie back (as far as we know), we wondered if she didn’t actually know (via UT?) why Lizzie ran away and who exactly was sheltered by the blue sect (the twin).
  • finally about Tanaka, considering the theory that he and Frances might have been working together to keep an eye on our!Ciel ever since he came back 4 years ago, if she knew about the twin, then she could have told him and maybe that could explain why we certainly didn’t see Tanaka being surprised by Real!Ciel coming back from the dead

Before anyone asks though, no I don’t think Tanaka sided with the twin or betrayed our!Ciel because he was a part of the Blue Sect from the beginning.
No, he’s not an asshole, he is probably just more aware of things than we give him credit for, just like for UT and probably for Frances as well. 

our!Ciel’s butler is Sebastian, real!Ciel’s butler is Polaris

and Tanaka =/= Polaris.   

So no Tanaka doesn’t side with the twin and isn’t involved with bringing him back. It’s just that the twin and our!Ciel are both boys he cares deeply about so for now it’s not like he can favor one over the other, even if one is dead and the other alive.

I hope it answers your question, have a nice weekend Anon!

Reblogging because…

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…if Tanaka knew all along, I can’t believe that Frances wouldn’t have noticed as well. I mean look, during the Weston arc:

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They were the only two (Lau and UT not counting)…

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…who saw through the entire deception from the very beginning. 

Besides, if she indeed knows which twin came back 4 years ago then it might help Edward with finding out the truth as well, after hearing Paula’s testimony…

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…since I’m pretty sure hoping that this arc won’t end without us hearing more from the Midford family (Edward, most likely).

Whenever you talk about Frances helping Ciel out it really gives me the image of a Jedi with their Padawan while Sebby just watches proudly (from afar, because unkempt bangs). JK but I really like the idea so here’s to hoping what Sebby said to her will mean something.

LISTEN THO’ ANON, I really like your SW analogy but I’ve got so much to say on the subject that, for your own sake, you should probably never send me an ask like this. 

I mean, look: 

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These two are the last two Phantomhives left (because I’m certainly not counting the twin who’s becoming a villain and who’s dead anyway) and they’re similar on many things, one of these things being losing close family because of the Watchdog duty. 

  • Ciel lost his parents and his brother when he was 10 years old, even if we don’t know yet whether the murders were triggered by an investigation in particular or if the issue was directly with Vincent being the watchdog
  • And guess what? Frances lost her mom who was the Watchdog at the time (I strongly suspect it was also a murder but not canon for now) when she was barely older than Ciel was and then, she was way older but she lost her brother (and his family) too.
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So Frances lacking a true purpose so far in the series (or so it seems), when she is the person most suited to understand how our!Ciel must feel, is really something I’ll always be salty about if it doesn’t change before long, especially when the current arc is forcing our Ciel to face his trauma (which hopefully means #development at the end). 

But that’s not even all there is to it Anon, because Seb went there 10 years ago or so, you know? He literally said the foreshadowing words that I need Yana to completely illustrate in the story as soon as possible:

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Because, guess what? Baby pup did trip.

  • During the curry arc, when he more or less sheltered Agni for his crimes
  • During the circus arc, when he burnt those children, which led to him lying to the Queen about his report 
    • but the Queen found out and organized a murder party as a punishment (@ thanks Grey)
  • During the green witch arc, because he made sure that Sieglinde wouldn’t give or produce for the Queen anything like the SuLIN gas
    • and the current arc might or not [x] partially be the result of Victoria seeing through his lies about the SuLIN gas in ch108 and being fed up with him not being a very obedient doggy

But Seb said all this in ch14, which is to say before the curry arc even started, which means that he knew that Ciel would surely fuck up at some point because, despite acting like he’s the best chessmaster of the entire cast, the simple truth is… that he’s not.
For now, Victoria is better than him, UT is better than him and I dare say that there might be more ready to strike (Lau?), while our!Ciel is left zoning out because he’s simply not good enough yet

That’s why Seb said:

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Because out of the last two Phantomhives left, Frances is more trained and accustomed to the Watchdog’s duty than Ciel currently is. It’s not a criticism towards Ciel, but just a fact since Frances is older and thus already went through what Ciel should have learnt with Vincent about the Watchdog’s duty, had he not died.

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Frances is strong, has been for a long time and she was probably trained to be from early on, just like it happened with Lizzie a generation later. Frances also lost her mom when she was young but she probably supported her brother for several years anyway, until she got married, had kids and started training her children as well as her brother’s:

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So there you have it, Seb said:

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However…

  • Claudia, Vincent and Rachel died
  • the twin is dead and probably a villain, and anyway he probably knows less about the Watchdog’s duty than our!Ciel himself
  • Madam Red turned out to be insane and is dead
  • Soma knows nothing about the Watchdog duty, Sieglinde is too new
  • Ed is not supposed to be involved with the Phantomhive family and Lizzie is too young
  • Dee? Unfortunately too tsundere and awkward with advice -> see ch131 + he’s in Germany anyway
  • Lau? LMAO no way + MIA for almost two arcs
  • Finally, UT is too desperate and not likely to be the best person to learn from when it comes to the Watchdog duty, seeing as he is not fond of it

…which leaves only Frances (even if I could also add Tanaka since he’s been with the Phantomhive family for a long time) to learn from when it comes to how to survive as the Watchdog. 

I know, I know, “Ciel wants revenge and he’s not going to have any future blah blah”, yeah yeah I agree, but really besides the Jack the ripper arc, I can’t say that the Queen seems very appreciative of his work (3 mistakes in one year with two that she caught on for sure)?
So it sounds a tad ridiculous that, even though he’s helped by a demon, our!Ciel would have barely lasted 4 years when Vincent was the Watchdog for almost 20 years. 

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That’s how it goes, the Watchdogs have to learn the ways of the game (it’s like a different kind of chess and it’s not innate), otherwise they have a high risk of ending up dead (and we all know that, without Seb, Ciel would have died countless times already). 

So you mentioned a Jedi, but Anon, Frances is not a random Jedi, she’s the master Yoda of Kuro, because she outlived her mom and her brother (even if, I know, she wasn’t the Watchdog directly; look at Rachel and Ann tho -> dead), but also mostly because she knows what it means and what it is like to be a Phantomhive. 

Therefore I’m looking for #plot where Frances’ character is concerned. Unless it’s denied in canon, I will always strongly believe that she’s keeping an eye on her nephew through reports that Tanaka might send, as well as through allowing Lizzie to visit Ciel often so that he won’t be all alone with work or his quest for revenge. 

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I will also refuse to believe that she’s 100% condemned to be dealt with through plot convenience only, unless it unfortunately turns out to be canon every time. So for the current arc, I’m still hoping there is a reason (?) why she seems uninvolved with finding an explanation to Lizzie’s disappearance while still apparently stopping Ed from “helping” Ciel to get Lizzie back.

TL;DR were the words Seb said to Frances in ch14 just words or were they foreshadowing of Frances having a role to play towards Ciel and the plot?
Well, that’s something I’ve been meaning to find out for over 4 years already. 

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Sorry for rambling, but asking me about Frances and Ciel generally makes me talkative, haha. I hope it made sense. 🙂 Have a nice day!