I’m sorry, please know that I rarely ever act like that, but there is clearly just so many things you are misreading about Berserk and its characters that I couldn’t help myself.

Had you written your comment differently (in a slightly less presumptuous way), I would have probably chosen to answer differently too, because I’m always happy to explain stuff to anyone. However, you’re kinda disdaining great writing by acting very ignorant of canon and that’s something I definitely can’t close my eyes on, so let me break that down for you:

…

doesn’t sound fake but okay.

Things actually changed so much between them after they admitted to being in love with each other that even Griffith, who saw nothing but his torturer for one year, noticed immediately that something changed between them and gave them the stare™ more than once.

Of course, it’s also not like Guts loved Casca, otherwise, you know…

he wouldn’t have offered to stay for her sake when she cried about leaving a weakened Griffith behind, despite not even being willing to do it for Griffith.

And of course, it’s not like Femto raped Casca partially as a punishment to both Guts and Casca because his huge ass ego made it unbearable for him not to be the center of their little trio anymore after Guts and Casca had started to revolve around each other and not around him anymore.

So it apparently is news for you, but yeah they did love each other.

“narratively is no longer necessary in the plot”

omg

did you actually read the manga or did you just watch the anime and then go comment on my post somehow?

“narratively is no longer necessary in the plot”

I mean, yeah no, it’s not like Guts let go of his freaking revenge against Griffith just to make sure Casca would be safe?????

It’s not like, even when Guts loses control with the armor, the simple thought of Casca helps bringing him back

and it’s not like this scene happened too:

and whatever he said, that was enough for the two other girls who have a crush on him to understand they would never have any chance.

Finally it’s not like Casca coming back is the most relevant thing that is going to happen to the plot for a while (I mean, we’ve been heading towards this ever since vol 28), which means that the Guts/Casca dynamic (although currently very strained, I do not disagree on that after what happened in vol 23) will always keep on developing, especially since their son is at the very heart of the plot.

I only gave you a few examples but frankly the story is full of more…

So I’m sorry, I really really don’t want to come across as being rude, because it’d be my pleasure to debate about Berserk with anyone, but if you really need Miura-sensei to describe word by word everything that he directly shows and implies through his amazing artstyle and characterization/development, you’re going to have some difficulties with some other parts of Berserk’s plot.

I don’t disagree with you on the idea that things between Guts and Casca won’t immediately go back to the way they were once Casca comes back, as the Skull Knight already warned Guts about, and as I wrote about in the past. However, I do not, in any way, think that it’s a dynamic that’s going to stay strained.

Guts and Casca are the main characters of Berserk. They were in love, Sensei dedicated many volumes to build up to them realizing their feelings for each other, so there is frankly no doubt about that and I’m sorry to see that you’d think otherwise. It’s the Eclipse and Griffith that fucked everything up, but you can be sure that their romance is still and will keep on being at the heart of the story.

For now things between them are strained (for several reasons) and will probably be for a while longer, but ultimately, I do not think it will stay like that, hence why I’m baffled that you’d say it’s no longer narratively meaningful, especially when they have a son, conceived out of love, who’s also a huge part of the plot.

Finally, Sensei kinda implied before that, Berserk being such a dark story, its ending probably wouldn’t be as grim and considering, again, how the Gutsca dynamic is such a main part of Berserk, you can be sure that it’s also meant to be partially about that.

Berserk is a very complex story, so I don’t blame you for misunderstanding some parts of it, but IDK, maybe reread it from the beginning because you really have the wrong idea about Gutsca and they kinda are the main characters.

Have a nice day.

kissing-monsters:

guys I don’t want to alarm you but, guts is pretty as fuck

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simons-quest:

that’s it, that’s the series

Berserk question! I always felt shy to ask so please don’t laugh but can you explain why Casca was ashamed of her scars when Guts and her…. had a moment?

Hi Anon and no worries :3 Did you mean this scene?

Personally I always understood that moment as Casca feeling self-conscious about not looking enough “like a woman” for Guts, which is why she initially didn’t like him focusing on her scars.

It’s always been one of her issues with being a mercenary…

because the scars are a proof that she’s a warrior, and a good one at that since she survived through a lot of battles. However, in Berserk’s universe, women aren’t mercenaries or soldiers, so the scars make her stick out from what usual women look like, which obviously is a good thing but also why she looked so self-conscious about them.

The context of their lovemaking also plays a part in her reaction in my opinion since, at the time, Casca had just realized that she had gone from seeking a life as Griffith’s blade (to help him achieve his dream) to Guts reciprocating her feelings and seeing her as an equal.

So it was probably scary for her to realize about her feelings, but also to suddenly see herself holding a lot of value for someone else’s heart, hence why she was worried about not being pretty/womanly enough to meet Guts’ expectations

(besides, at the time she had no idea that she was his first too).

Casca’s worries about not being pretty enough for Guts were irrelevant though…

…

because

he didn’t give a shit and was just impressed by what these scars tell about Casca’s skills and journey as a mercenary. xD

Sorry if I couldn’t explain properly, I hope it can still be helpful! Have a nice day Anon. :))

midnight-in-town:

midnight-in-town:

A few months ago I was joking as I added to someone else’s post that a neutral ending to the possibilities for who lil Casca was talking about previously was her son (compared to ‘good ending: Guts’, ‘bad ending: Griffith’) but…

frankly now I wonder if that really wasn’t who she was talking about from the beginning, especially if you consider that lil Casca is a direct representation of current!Casca.

It would explain why the Skull Knight insisted so much about Casca and Guts having different wishes when she comes back: maybe what will motivate her to come back isn’t even Guts in the first place but her son because she’ll want to save him from Griffith/Femto. I mean, ever since the Eclipse, she always was the most “aware” whenever her son was around.

Even in this state, she knows he’s inside of Griffith 2.0 (when no one else does, just saying), which is probably why the last fragment took this form in the first place. Her son turning out like that is a direct consequence of the Eclipse and so is him being used for Griffith’s rebirth during the tower of conviction arc.

@lenok993

aaahh OMG, but you’re right, I had forgotten:

I had always assumed this cover was in relation to the fact that her son became the receptacle of Griffth 2.0 (and maybe it’s also what it means), but now that I saw your tags it really reminds me of what Rickert (in vol 38) and Judeau (before dying) basically implied about Casca remaining their leader because, as long as she survived, their group would too.

So, despite her probably intense fear of Griffith, maybe Casca will go back to being a leader, except that she will do it all for her son’s sake and, in that case, her “Band of the Hawk” will mean something in relation to her son and not Griffith.

Besides, looking at the Moonlight Child…

it’s probably because of the current link between the demon infant and Femto, but he certainly shines bright like the Hawk of Light, just like the demon infant does in Casca’s dreams:

TL;DR maybe the “Hawk of Light”, the true savior of humanity that the Pope sees in Griffith 2.0 actually is the Gutsca baby, as foreshadowed by the cover of vol 20, because his parents will save the day and the rest of the world all for his sake.

Such a development would be so fitting when that poor baby was cursed before it was even born. ;_;

Ahh, my bad Anon! Basically, it’s more “true Hawk of Light = Gutsca baby (demon infant + moonlight child)”, thanks to @lenok993 making me realize something.

Let me reexplain in different terms:

Casca and Guts will never give a single care that Griffith/Femto/the God Hand decided to cast an era of chaos and darkness upon the world.
They aren’t going to save the world just because “they’re the only ones who might be able to stop Griffith”.
However, what they will care about, especially Casca, is the fate of their son who’s currently trapped within Griffith 2.0.

Now, considering the following:

I always thought that the Pope was manipulated like the rest of the world by Femto, but maybe he’s not completely wrong when he says that “the Hawk of Light you see here is our savior” because the Griffith we see in this scene = Femto + the demon infant.

We know Femto is never going to be anyone’s savior but rather the one who brings doom to the whole world, however, here’s what Rickert said…

meaning that there currently are two bands of the hawk: the new one led by Griffith 2.0 (made of humans and apostles) and the old one, which survived and is still led by Casca because…

So, symbolically speaking, couldn’t we say that there might be “two hawks”? Maybe “the White Hawk” and “the Hawk of Light”? And one of them is Femto obviously but what if the other is…

…the Gutsca baby, because he too is constantly associated with a shining light and Griffith?

All in all, the reason we could consider the Gutsca baby as the possible Hawk of Light is that, beyond being currently associated with Femto, it was said that “the Hawk of Light would be humanity’s savior”.
So either Miura-sensei is just enjoying dark humor here, since Griffith is not going to save anyone, or he is actually double-trolling us because there is going to be a Hawk of Light that will (indirectly) save humanity, however it’s just not going to be Femto but the other part of Griffith 2.0, a.k.a the Gutsca baby.

Again, Guts and Casca probably won’t care about saving the world, but they will surely want to try and save their son. And if they do and get rid of Griffith/Femto at the same time, then humanity will be saved, indirectly making the Gutsca baby the hawk of light and humanity’s savior.

So, looking at the cover of vol 20…

you can interpret it in two ways:

Casca gave birth to the demon infant and Femto used him to be reborn into this world and become “the Hawk of Light”.
Casca gave birth to the true “Hawk of Light”, because it’s not Femto but rather her and Guts’ son and his parents rescuing him will be what is going to save humanity.

Finally, I also like this theory because the demon infant was cursed from before even being born and yet…

he constantly saved his parents, which is slightly contradictory to having the nature of a demon. Of course, the Skull Knight said it might happen but still, he never ever was even slightly aggressive towards them, so… maybe this kid will really indirectly save humanity, because his parents will have to get rid of Griffith/Femto in order to save him.

Is that… more understandable? 🙂 I hope so in any case, but keep in mind it’s just a theory, it really doesn’t have to turn out like that, haha.

Please have a nice weekend Anon!

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midnight-in-town:

A few months ago I was joking as I added to someone else’s post that a neutral ending to the possibilities for who lil Casca was talking about previously was her son (compared to ‘good ending: Guts’, ‘bad ending: Griffith’) but…

frankly now I wonder if that really wasn’t who she was talking about from the beginning, especially if you consider that lil Casca is a direct representation of current!Casca.

It would explain why the Skull Knight insisted so much about Casca and Guts having different wishes when she comes back: maybe what will motivate her to come back isn’t even Guts in the first place but her son because she’ll want to save him from Griffith/Femto. I mean, ever since the Eclipse, she always was the most “aware” whenever her son was around.

Even in this state, she knows he’s inside of Griffith 2.0 (when no one else does, just saying), which is probably why the last fragment took this form in the first place. Her son turning out like that is a direct consequence of the Eclipse and so is him being used for Griffith’s rebirth during the tower of conviction arc.

@lenok993

aaahh OMG, but you’re right, I had forgotten:

I had always assumed this cover was in relation to the fact that her son became the receptacle of Griffth 2.0 (and maybe it’s also what it means), but now that I saw your tags it really reminds me of what Rickert (in vol 38) and Judeau (before dying) basically implied about Casca remaining their leader because, as long as she survived, their group would too.

So, despite her probably intense fear of Griffith, maybe Casca will go back to being a leader, except that she will do it all for her son’s sake and, in that case, her “Band of the Hawk” will mean something in relation to her son and not Griffith.

Besides, looking at the Moonlight Child…

it’s probably because of the current link between the demon infant and Femto, but he certainly shines bright like the Hawk of Light, just like the demon infant does in Casca’s dreams:

TL;DR maybe the “Hawk of Light”, the true savior of humanity that the Pope sees in Griffith 2.0 actually is the Gutsca baby, as foreshadowed by the cover of vol 20, because his parents will save the day and the rest of the world all for his sake.

Such a development would be so fitting when that poor baby was cursed before it was even born. ;_;

Source: midnight-in-town

A few months ago I was joking as I added to someone else’s post that a neutral ending to the possibilities for who lil Casca was talking about previously was her son (compared to ‘good ending: Guts’, ‘bad ending: Griffith’) but…

frankly now I wonder if that really wasn’t who she was talking about from the beginning, especially if you consider that lil Casca is a direct representation of current!Casca.

It would explain why the Skull Knight insisted so much about Casca and Guts having different wishes when she comes back: maybe what will motivate her to come back isn’t even Guts in the first place but her son because she’ll want to save him from Griffith/Femto. I mean, ever since the Eclipse, she always was the most “aware” whenever her son was around.

Even in this state, she knows he’s inside of Griffith 2.0 (when no one else does, just saying), which is probably why the last fragment took this form in the first place. Her son turning out like that is a direct consequence of the Eclipse and so is him being used for Griffith’s rebirth during the tower of conviction arc.

I just read the chapter and THE TWINS GET FREAKING GANG RAPED BY FILTHY NOBLES AND FREAKING SLUTTY NUNS?!?! I cried so much,I was always excited about starting berserk since I watched the first anime,but I guess it won’t work for me no matter how amasing the story is,I even cried when that piece of shit pedo clown arrived in akame ga kill,and I heard guts gets raped twice?? not to mention casca..how graphic are those scene? do you think I should just not read it?

Hi! Okay, so, you’re addressing a lot of things at the same time, I’ll try to answer everything. 🙂

First of all, I haven’t seen Akame ga Kill, so I can’t speak for this series but as for the rest…

Kuroshitsuji

Yes, you read right, this is exactly what happened. As I said before, the act in itself was foreshadowed once but not in its… settings and the sea of adults that were waiting for them, so this was an additional detail that made everything worse in my case.

Sensei was not particularly graphic, but enough so that it’s not hard to decipher exactly how the twins were… used.

I think it’s great you managed to avoid the spoilers even if the chapter in itself must have been hard to swallow afterwards. Personally, I needed a few days to feel better after reading ch135.

Fair warning in advance, but ch136 will probably contain other triggering scenes about child abuse. I listed all of the moments from older flashbacks that we have yet to see here, I hope it will be useful to help prepare yourself for January’s chapter. :3

Berserk

I understand that you watched the anime of 1997? If so, then yes, they really toned it down compared to the manga.

I’ll be honest here, Berserk is one of the most amazing manga series I had the chance to read, but it is very explicit and violent, especially in its first half:

people get violently butchered and tortured
there are different kinds of rape scenes
just like there are rather explicit sex scenes
a lot of child abuse
pedophilia and incest are less recurring but they’re addressed at least once

To answer your other questions, forgive me if I spoil something for you but yes, Guts gets raped as a child, only once though, because his adoptive father literally sold his ass to one of his comrades. Guts actually gets through a lot of abuse as a child in general and his name is the first clue you get, since it’s a sick joke about the circumstances of his birth.

As for Casca, poor girl, many men attempt to rape her throughout the story, unfortunately for her, because women in Berserk generally aren’t fighters, which makes her a big exception and the only woman constantly surrounded by angry and violent men so… yeah. Even Guts, who can’t stand rape ever since what happened to him, half-crossed the line.

Still, it happens only once for her too, but it’s with the most traumatizing circumstances possible: they’re literally in Hell when it happens, her comrades were just butchered in front of her, she’s held down by several Apostles (demons) while her “friend” decides to do his business right in the middle of the massacre, as a punishment for both Guts (being forced to watch) and her.

So yeah, it’s definitely not a moment I go and reread often because Miura-sensei made sure to make it hard to stomach from beginnning to end. I really dislike the anime, but the third movie shows this part of the story and… I think it was “well done”, because it takes everything in consideration and more importantly, you can hear how angry and desperate Guts is.

Finally you asked whether you should read it or not, but I really can’t answer that. It has a lot of triggering content, so from the very first chapter onward, you can see what you signed up for but this doesn’t mean you will get used to it.
My best advice would be try and see. :)) With what I described you should know enough to be prepared and besides, you’re allowed to take long breaks while reading, just like you’re allowed to just stop if you can’t handle it.

I won’t lie, Casca’s rape and Kuro ch135 were hard for me to stomach the first time I read through these scenes, but after a few days it gets better and you don’t need to go back to these moments again anyway.
So it’s up to you: Berserk is amazing enough to deserve a try but I also know that not everyone can handle how violently graphic it is, so no pressure whatever you decide. :3

I hope it answers your question, have a nice day Anon!

AHHHHHHHHHHHHH

OMG OMG I just had The Thought™

what if the one who ends up using Dragonslayer (from Farnese’s dream) is not Farnese or Schierke or even Dog-Guts, but rather…

Casca herself?

Hear me out, the broken doll is only missing but a few fragments and this lil one here changes with every memory the girls retrieved (she spoke and expressed her desires when she couldn’t speak at all at first). If this keeps up, which is the whole point of this arc, Casca will slowly come back more and at some point, she’ll be able to confront her own past in order to fulfill her wishes and end this journey.

This might imply having to fight by herself the embodiment of her fears once we get to the final fragment…

otherwise she’ll never find her resolve in order to finally cope with everything that she went through.

Besides, it’d be a beautiful parallel considering that Dragonslayer is a big reason our Black Swordsman managed to fight and survive all this time, so much that the sword itself became stronger and more efficient against Apostles after killing so many of them.

Finally, it would also be an interesting nod back to why Casca once took a sword and learnt how to fight for herself…

…right after she was assaulted for the first time. Using Griffith’s initial advice to overcome what he did to her, wouldn’t it be awesome?

I’m looking forward to anyone who might use Dragonslayer in a future chapter, but I’ll be extra happy if this person turns out to be Casca, who’s finally ready to come back. 😀

[x]

So anyway, besides Serpico’s wind garbs and the berserker armor, since there was also Dragonslayer in Farnese’s dream of doing the laundry…

…does this mean it could be the next item that will help the girls? To break the last fragment open for example?

Unless it’s our Beast of Darkness 2.0 that will use it to fight the embodiment of Casca’s intense fear?