Étiquette : guts

Soooo… Time for a recap post? Here’s what we know:

  • the moonlight child only appears during the full moon => it’s implied that he can only materialize the night magic is at its strongest
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  • Considering that his OD never led to the brand reacting, I doubt he comes from “the Underworld”
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(and btw)

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  • Griffith 2.0 does not disappear during the full moon, so it can’t be the demon infant getting his body back just for one night
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  • Casca’s attraction to the moonlight child is very reminiscent of how she used to react when the demon infant was nearby
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(and the child himself is very attached to her which could be a hint because, in comparison, the demon infant always made sure not to get too close to her, probably because he knew the brand would hurt his mom)

  • Femto commented on feeling the demon infant’s fear for his parents, so we know the infant always seeked to protect them and that’s also exactly what the moonlight child did with Guts and Casca every time he appeared
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(the demon infant also knew that Guts loved Casca dearly, that’s why he warned him about going to save Casca, and so does the moonlight child, since that’s she he used to bring Guts back from the berserk mode twice)

  • he’s not an envoy of Danan, Gedfryn confirmed as much in ch344
  • bonus: like mother, like son?
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(Side note but whenever he materialized, Casca acted more rational and like an adult than when he wasn’t around: she would feed him or be scared of him climbing up, when usually she couldn’t even eat by herself or realize whenever she did something dangerous)

So anyway, it’s nothing new that there are too many similarities between the demon infant and the moonlight child, which is why a lot of readers (not everyone, I’m aware of that) think the two are the Gutsca baby.

Previously I proposed that the moonlight child could be some kind of ‘incarnated dream’ of the demon infant, but it’s not certain that it would make sense with the child disappearing inside of the World Tree, which is a “dragon’s road” between different realms? At the same time, in vol28, the World Tree wasn’t a thing yet either so…¯_(ツ)_/¯

These days now though I’m wondering more generally about what if the moonlight child is the demon infant’s ego?

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Because this would solve why he can only materialize corporeally during the full moon, “the nights magical forces are at their strongest”, while the demon infant remains Femto’s vessel at any given time. 

In other words, Femto possesses the body of the demon infant in order to exist in the corporeal world, but the child’s ego disappears/disappeared: 

  • either after what happened in vol22 (because Femto found him to be a liability after baby literally influenced him to go save Casca for example) 
  • or only when the full moon comes because strong magical forces give him the chance to materialize elsewhere to see his parents.

That could explain why he appears/disappears randomly exactly where Guts and Casca are, as well as why he’d be naked when showing up. What I mean is that I doubt the moonlight child exists corporeally elsewhere aside from the full moon where he is with Casca and Guts. 

Besides, I find the way the moonlight child appears to Guts when in Berserk mode is quite similar to what Schierke saw the first time Guts used the armor:

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And so I’m wondering if the similarities aren’t on purpose. 

It’s also obvious that the moonlight child is related to Light in general, if just as the light bringing Guts back when he lost himself to the armor’s power, which is why I also proposed previously that he may be the real hawk of light that everyone sees in Griffith 2.0. 

Another important point to mention is that the moonlight child apparently grew up in just one lunar cycle and there again, I wonder if this isn’t related to how Femto’s power is rapidly expanding, like with the World Tree for example.

The more Femto achieves victory, the more his influence and thus probably his power grow (and the more chaos grows closer), so if the moonlight child is linked to the demon infant who himself is Femto’s vessel, then this might explain why he’s visibly growing up along with Femto’s influence over the human world.

I guess this point might also explain why the second time the moonlight child 

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could remind us of Griffith 2.0 (if just with the hair), which is in my opinion one way that Sensei has to hint that the moonlight child is related to Griffith 2.0…

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who, again, is the result of Femto fusing with the demon infant’s flesh.

Finally, Sensei creating two entities for just one character (demon infant + moonlight child = Gutsca baby) would make sense considering certain… upcoming problematics, like, when Femto does get married to Charlotte for example which should probably be soon in the narrative.

I mean, the body Femto is inhabiting is the demon infant’s, the body of Guts and Casca’s child who should be like… 3 years old??? 

So in case something like a wedding night happens, well, I’d rather Sensei found a way to make it clear that Femto is 100% the one who has sex with Charlotte instead of the child himself, if you know what I mean?
The moonlight child being everything that used to be the demon infant (so his ego), besides his own flesh that now belongs to Femto, could solve this. 

Same for when Guts and Casca will ultimately face Femto in order to kill him. That way there could be hope left for their child’s survival.

An ego represents a person fully enough in any case, as we could see with Guts’ when he used the armor for the very first time: 

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That’s why I’d enjoy the idea!

I hope it was clear enough considering how complex the universe of Berserk is. Thanks for reading!

Why doesn’t Guts love his son? It’s obvious Casca loves the child more but it’s weird because you’d think since Guts as child wanted love from his adopted father & knows what it’s like to not receive it properly. Would pity or empathize with his son and think about him a bit more.

Hi Anon! Okay so, no offense, I already did a post on the topic in the past, but I feel like there is something that’s amiss in your reasoning otherwise you possibly wouldn’t have reached these conclusions.

So first thing first, Guts doesn’t not love his son. Especially after the tower of conviction arc. And I’m sure of this because…

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he couldn’t kill him from the moment the Skull Knight made him realize that this was his baby. 

Afterwards, I agree with you, Guts’ behavior with his baby was a clear parallel to Gambino’s despicable attitude towards Guts himself, the difference being that we have to consider how Guts’ trauma from the Eclipse factors into this. Look…

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After this happened, Guts went on this hellish journey to pursue revenge and target every damn thing from the underworld that the brand would attract.
That’s how he became the Black Swordsman and all this hatred and violence he lived with for several years is what ultimately gave birth to “the beast of darkness” within himself.

All that to say, because of the Eclipse, Guts’ hatred (and fear) of anything demonic is the reason his behavior towards his own demonic baby was particularly aggressive. That being said, his baby is also the only one Guts could never kill and not just when he was born…

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…and that during a part of Guts’ life where he wouldn’t trust or care about or depend on anyone but himself. 

Then the conviction arc happened, but that’s when the baby warned him about Casca, which changed everything between them…

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…because Guts definitely realized that it’s thanks to their child that he managed to rescue Casca. 

From this point onward, between what the baby did for them and also Guts switching objectives after getting Casca back and new friends in his life, he started to show regret about his child’s fate…

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which proves in my opinion that Guts does love his baby. And this breaks the parallel with Gambino indeed, because Guts having mixed feelings all this time about his son, despite the baby being (in theory) demonic, is probably related to how he suffered from the lack of parental love as a child too. 

So I think it’s important to always consider what part of the story you would include this kind of reasoning in, because Guts’ attitude/feelings towards his child definitely changed throughout the story.
There is even a lot to bet that, once Guts learns that Femto was given his baby as a vessel, he’ll be extremely pissed off at Griffith again.  

Also to add, if you believe in the theory that demon infant => moonlight child like I do, I’d say that the child’s apparently wary attitude towards Guts is the consequence of Guts’ previous behavior towards his demon counterpart… 

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…just like the reason he clings so much to Casca is possibly because when he was a demon he could never approach her due to the brand hurting her. 

However once again…

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our little boy here is clever and curious (”all children yearn for their parents”), so he totally played a little game to see if his dad would yell at him should he annoy him just a little like he did in the past…

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but I’d say that what this boy saw of his parents’ attitude towards him after this little test…

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…pleased him a lot, enough so maybe that he’d then make sure to constantly help them the two times he materialized during the full moon. 

TL;DR yes, Guts initally was very aggressive towards his own child, but in my opinion, rather than no love, that was the result of the trauma brought by the Eclipse, since things got better between them from the moment his son helped him get Casca back. 

Afterwards, Guts was even shown to be thinking about his baby, wondering how he was doing (since he doesn’t know yet about him becoming Femto’s vessel), and overall I’d say that Guts’ previous attitude bears no real consequence to his relationship with his son because:

  • Femto mentioned feeling the demon infant being afraid for both his parents’ in vol22
  • the moonlight child, who is most likely what’s left of the demon infant after Femto’s rebirth, tested the water with his dad and seems to be comfortable enough with the situation that he would save him plenty of times afterwards.  

I hope it helps Anon! Seriously, Griffith did fuck everything up for the entire Gutsca family, but it seems that, no matter what, these three (Guts, Casca and Baby) will always manage to watch out for one another. :)) Let’s hope it will last!

Have a nice weekend Anon. 🙂

Hello. Love your blog ❤ i was thinking that maybe guts will have a chance of get back his health, what i mean he’s very tired for the years and is currently losing his sight. So what do you think? I hope the elf king helps guts body to be on top notch to kick hawk ass

Hi Anon and awww, thanks for the nice words! ❤ 

About Guts tho’, well, he was warned about this…

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…because the Berserker’s armor is to be used with caution. ://

Have you never seen this illustration that Sensei made for the lulz about Berserk within universe 20 years later?

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Well, look at Guts being older than everyone because he keeps using the armor too much. xD This illustration is a joke but the issue depicted is real: the armor is very useful but dangerous.

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That being said, I do agree with you that the trip to Skellig is possibly about more than just bringing Casca back. Originally, the whole journey there was only for Casca’s sake, but now that they finally arrived, I’d say we could stay there for a while and for other reasons. 

The first reason is that the magic community took a hard blow because of Griffith

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…and the remaining sorcerers are possibly interested in fighting back against him one way or another. 

The other reason is Guts himself: there is what you proposed indeed, but besides the physical changes, Guts has so much to solve. 

  • there is what Slan did to him (the wound to his ethereal body, I don’t think it was ever 100% healed iirc?)
  • and there is the beast of darkness (that is staying low for now), which is related to his own trauma regarding the Eclipse

Casca is not the only one who needs to face what happened during the Eclipse.

In fact, Guts’ sanity so far rested on the only hope that Danan might be able to bring the woman he loves back. He clang so much onto it that he even disregarded his revenge against Griffith to will himself into trying to get her back. And even if he’s constantly reminding himself of what the Skull Knight said on the subject, I’m pretty sure a part of him is hoping Skully was wrong. 

So now that Casca is back, no matter how she and Guts will behave around each other, Guts is without a goal and, for a man as tormented as him, I believe that can be extremely threatening (”hello darkness my old friend”). 

That’s why I think Guts could have his own personal moment on Skellig where he might finally agree to look back onto everything that happened, in order to finally learn to cope too. Besides, if not on Skellig, where/when is he ever going to get the chance to reflect onto all that he went through?

In an older post, I mentioned that I could possibly see Gedfryn taking on the guiding role for Guts (where Danan took on that role for Casca), but that’s just me guessing without anything certain.

Besides Guts and Casca, I also guess that their time on Skellig could trigger development for the rest of their friends: Farny and Schierke could train a little with other witches for example? 

More than anything though, I wonder how likely it would be for Griffith’s army to target Skellig Island next. I mean, I still can’t give an explanation to this…

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because I doubt Isma’s mom was worried about her daughter getting into trouble with Danan’s people or the sorcerers, so… Well, since Griffith targeted a lot of spirit woods previously (like Flora’s), who knows what he might have planned for Danan’s kingdom?

The fact we even switched to him recently in the narrative must also be for a reason, but it’s not like he’s getting really slowed down by other enemies…

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…so eventually -maybe after he marries Charlotte?- he could decide to attack Skellig Island while Guts, Casca and their friends are still there. 

Still on the same idea, but I just recently made a post about Guts having a tie to Elves according to the Skull Knight and this could also be expanded on while Guts stays on Skellig, especially if he ends up having to protect them should Griffith launch an attack. 

Finally, an attack by Griffith could also lead to the Skull Knight showing up once more (since he’s the foe of all inhumans) and I find this would be extremely relevant considering that…

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this is what Puck once thought about him (vol 18).

TL;DR everyone fighting on Skellig could be a way to conclude the arc on Skellig? And until we get there, I guess we could focus on Guts’ own trauma as well as Casca slowly getting used to being back, while Griffith chases monsters around, possibly gets married and decides that he will target Skellig next.

That’s my take on it. Rather uncertain because we switched to Griffith and don’t know why exactly for the moment, so we’ll need more content to be surer!

I hope it answers your question Anon. Thanks again for the kind words and have a lovely day. ❤  

how many « sides » of characters in Berserk? or do we follow just one group because the list of characters isn’t big?

Hi Anon! Not sure I 100% understand what you’re asking so feel free to tell me if that’s not what you meant. 

Of course it depends on where you’re at in the story, since the cast does get bigger with every arc, but as of the latest update, yes there are different groups of characters that we can follow in the story. 

There is Guts’ and Casca’s party, currently on a place called Skellig Island…

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There is Griffith’s army (the villains, so to speak) that we’re currently following:

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And we had a few recurring secondary characters that we could follow sometimes here and there in the story, but recently they all formed one group…

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…in order to escape Griffith and to possibly rejoin later with Guts and Casca. 

We might follow other recurring secondary characters in the future (I’m thinking of the city of Vritannis in particular), but so far there are “only” three groups of characters. 

I hope that’s what you were asking about. Have a nice day!

Listen tho’, I am 200% convinced that it is supposed to be super relevant and a big hint to a significant plot development (or answer about Guts) in the future. 

I mean, look:

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first there was the adorable Chitch…

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…as a few random episodes right in the middle of vol37, before we switched to Rickert/Falconia and then again to Guts’ party finally reaching Skellig. And since I don’t think Sensei does random in his story… well, it must be narratively meaningful somehow. x)

Then, of course, there are all the references to Puck before they had even met, which in my opinion definitely hints that Puck and Guts could be linked by fate.

  • There was Judeau with some elf dust coming from Puck during the Golden age…
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  • but also Rickert with some more elf dust coming from Puck, which was used to heal Casca and Guts after the Eclipse…
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Puck who, unknowingly, was also of a great help to Guts during his two years as the terrifying Black Swordsman, as pointed out by Rickert once again…

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…just like he was

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hinted to be pretty significant to the plot in a very obvious way recently…

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Puck who calls the Beherit Guts found in the first arc “his”…

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and it’s been mentioned too often by now for me not to think it’s possibly hiding something relevant:

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So I don’t know exactly what may link Guts and Puck, but fate is at work here and I’ll be really surprised if Puck doesn’t have an even bigger role in the future than during Guts’ Black Swordsman days.

It’s possible that the Beherit is really supposed to be his, especially since Puck knows all about Guts’ revenge against the Godhand and even met them in the very first arc. Not to say that Puck would sacrifice his friends or anything, but just that he may be the key to Guts going back to the Abyss

for the third time

in order to face the Godhand.

Otherwise, to be honest, I have had this super crack theory (i.e no real hint) for ages that maybe, 

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Guts survived through his rather savage birth circumstances because Puck happened to pass by and heal him? Then Gambino showed up soon after and the rest is history.

After all, we don’t know exactly when Puck left Skellig Island all those years ago, just like we don’t know if that circus troupe is the first group of humans he came upon (unless it was mentioned and I’m misremembering something?). 

Besides, in Berserk, the notion of fate is extremely important, that’s why even Griffith couldn’t escape becoming Femto even when the Beherit was taken away from him that one time. So if the Skull Knight says that there is a possible tie between Guts and Elves, then I’m ready to believe it’s the case.

The question is does it come from Guts’ past or will it be explained by something that has yet to happen? Whichever it is, I’m pretty sure it’s going to be very important either to Guts’ character or to the plot iself (or both). :))

attractthecrows:

as much as “guts is a dad” is a Funny Hot Meme,, it makes me super emo all the time. like how much of that do you think is him instinctively making up for not being able to raise his own son? or like, some baseline guilt for always screaming at/attacking/threatening the blobby thing that is evil, yes, but is also his child? im

this tho’, especially since he’s not Angry and Aggressive towards the kiddo anymore probably because the bby warned/helped him to protect Casca during the Tower of Conviction arc and he’s conscious of that

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im crying ;_;