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More like crack theory, but it invaded my mind this morning and it just won’t leave me alone, so here goes nothing: going back to the tower of conviction arc, there was a scene that never struck me as odd until, well, this morning and that is:
What that apostle implied about the demon infant dying and dreaming about the “new world” (aka Griffith being reborn and becoming humanity’s savior lmao) hit something in my mind today because the story is currently focusing on bringing Casca’s sanity back, thanks to a journey through her dreams.
And in ch348, it was implied that, even though they’re technically called “dreams”, it’s completely possible through them (and thanks to magic) to change the dreamer who is currently asleep in the “real world”.
In Casca’s case, hopefully Schierke and Farnese will be able to make good changes, but that got me thinking: what if, through magic, this “corridor of dreams” was… somehow like another “dimension”? A bit like the astral plane if you would, except that it is about “dreams”…
…and only powerful beings like the Sovereign of the flower storm have access to it.
Now, look at the moonlight child: he’s a young kid that many readers believe could be what’s left of the demon infant ever since Griffith’s rebirth, but Schierke told us many times that…
his OD, to which the brand doesn’t react to, is strange, which means it has nothing to do with the beings of the astral world (or the underworld) that Schierke is used to and he’s clearly not human (or having to do with Danan).
We know he’s using the full moon to appear because that’s the time magic forces are at their strongest, and it’s actually been hinted that Griffith doesn’t disappear on full moon nights (meaning that these two probably don’t share a body, at least not during the full moon). We also saw him disappear in vol 37…
…through that tree that expands even to the moon and that apparently links every plane/world together.
Back to the demon infant and dreams, considering his behavior until Griffith’s reincarnation, I wouldn’t be surprised if he were to have dreams about living a happy life with his parents, especially since the Skull Knight confirmed that all children (even demons) yearn for their parents.
And anyway, one of the reasons many readers associate the moonlight child to the demon infant is basically because the moonlight child, each time he appears, behaves as if he were Casca’s child (eyeing Guts and saving him when necessary too). Isidro even called them and Guts out for looking like a family once.
…that means that the moonlight child (if he’s linked to the demon infant) got his body from someone/somewhere else.
So here’s my theory: what if the moonlight child is none other than the corporeal incarnation of the demon infant’s own dream?
If the baby that became a part of Griffith when he was reincarnated is sometimes dreaming, as the apostle of the tower of conviction implied, then he might be dreaming about seeing his parents again, or simply about what it would be like to spend time as a family?
And thanks to this baby being a strange being in the first place, but also being a part of Griffith and full moons helping, maybe that’s how the moonlight child comes to be every month for just one night (naked as the demon infant always was and powerful, because it’s the full moon or because of Griffith’s powers that the demon infant might be sharing)?
That would definitely explain the boy’s strange OD in any case and maybe even why he looked to have grown up in vol 36/37, as he would be the first dream incarnation that we would meet in the story (and that would fit with the fact that Griffith/Femto definitely seems still corporeal during the full moon).
TL;DR maybe the “corridor of dreams” that Danan uses is some kind of plane, like the astral plane, that can be accessed through the world tree. And maybe, during full moons, the demon infant has enough powers to materialize his dearest dream for one night, which is to say he “dreams” of being a young boy able to spend time with his parents, which is why a corporeal moonlight child materializes where his parents are.
Sorry if something doesn’t make sense, but feel free to leave your thoughts!
Hello Anon! If I understood, you mean to ask if the Amon/Kaneki dynamic has some parallels with the Guts/Griffith one?
Honestly… Well, I might be wrong or biased (so maybe @purgatoryandme will want to add to my answer since I believe you were referring to their post) but I don’t think that Guts and Amon are inherently similar when it comes to their characterization, despite all the other parallels that were pointed out in their respective stories (design, lost limbs, weapons, dad-related issues, behelits). I also don’t find any parallel nor resemblances between Kaneki’s character and Griffith’s, so I wouldn’t say that the Amon & Kaneki dynamic can be compared with the Guts & Griffith one. Then again, this is just my opinion.
I always found the Guts/Amon parallels easy to see since Amon’s design really is inspired from Guts’, however, parallels aside I don’t find their characters to be particularly similar, as I was saying. Sure, they have father-related issues and life wasn’t nice with either of them, but Guts’ characterization is a level higher than Amon’s (no offense to Ishida-sensei), making it hard to really find parallels within their respective characterizations, especially since their personal stories are completely different (probably because the world settings of TG and Berserk can’t be compared either).
So I guess, to answer your question, that it just depends on every reader’s interpretation: I once had a debate with someone on a forum who would preach for a thousand of parallels between Guts’ story and Kaneki’s, something I could never agree with so far so, while I don’t find any similarities between the two dynamics you asked about, someone else might disagree. 🙂
Honestly, the only character I could see having parallels with Griffith would be Takizawa, because of this scene…
and thanks to this post. But then again, it’s all very relative because, even if Takizawa once gave up and sacrificed everything to choose the path of destruction, he recently was offered the possibility to go on a redemption path (for Amon’s and Akira’s sake mainly) and he took it.
Meanwhile, I don’t think Griffith will ever stop being Femto and find a way to make it up to Guts and Casca for everything he did to them. There again, I could be wrong since the 5 Angels of the Godhand were once humans, but so far, that doesn’t seem to be a part of his plan.
Ahem, so anyway, I don’t think the dynamics can really be compared Anon, sorry :3 Someone else might propose a different opinion though!
Thanks for passing by and have a nice evening ^_^
Hey Anon! And wow, after your messages, I can’t say I really understand either what happened. That’s the problem with anonymity I guess…
Maybe the other Anon meant that they were the ones who sent the second
(and third)
question about Guts & Amon, though? The 4th question was by an Anon who misunderstood about what I told the second Anon and then the debate (created by the second Anon) was more or less concluded by three other messages. So I guess maybe they didn’t mean to usurp your “identity”? Hard to say. xD
Anyway, back to you, I actually didn’t misunderstand your question. 🙂 I got that you were talking about the dynamics/relationships, but from the moment I don’t find Kaneki to be similar to Griifth and Amon similar to Guts (in terms of characterization), I just don’t find their dynamics to be similar either, especially not when we consider the state of Guts and Griffith’s current dynamic (and even the recent interactions between Kaneki and Amon). 🙂
The author of the post that initially triggered your question also added their opinion here in case you didn’t see.
That being said, it all is just my opinion, I can see that you don’t seem to agree and that’s perfectly fine if that’s the case. 🙂
Sorry for the mess and the debate that was created, since it wasn’t really linked to your question though. I really didn’t misunderstand your question, but I guess maybe I explained badly. In my defense I had a long day and it was late. xD
Anyway, thanks for passing by again, I hope it makes more sense now. I’m closing the anon mode until Friday evening because of work, but don’t hesitate to send another message then if something is still bothering you.
Hello Anon! If I understood, you mean to ask if the Amon/Kaneki dynamic has some parallels with the Guts/Griffith one?
Honestly… Well, I might be wrong or biased (so maybe @purgatoryandme will want to add to my answer since I believe you were referring to their post) but I don’t think that Guts and Amon are inherently similar when it comes to their characterization, despite all the other parallels that were pointed out in their respective stories (design, lost limbs, weapons, dad-related issues, behelits). I also don’t find any parallel nor resemblances between Kaneki’s character and Griffith’s, so I wouldn’t say that the Amon & Kaneki dynamic can be compared with the Guts & Griffith one. Then again, this is just my opinion.
I always found the Guts/Amon parallels easy to see since Amon’s design really is inspired from Guts’, however, parallels aside I don’t find their characters to be particularly similar, as I was saying. Sure, they have father-related issues and life wasn’t nice with either of them, but Guts’ characterization is a level higher than Amon’s (no offense to Ishida-sensei), making it hard to really find parallels within their respective characterizations, especially since their personal stories are completely different (probably because the world settings of TG and Berserk can’t be compared either).
So I guess, to answer your question, that it just depends on every reader’s interpretation: I once had a debate with someone on a forum who would preach for a thousand of parallels between Guts’ story and Kaneki’s, something I could never agree with so far so, while I don’t find any similarities between the two dynamics you asked about, someone else might disagree. 🙂
Honestly, the only character I could see having parallels with Griffith would be Takizawa, because of this scene…
and thanks to this post. But then again, it’s all very relative because, even if Takizawa once gave up and sacrificed everything to choose the path of destruction, he recently was offered the possibility to go on a redemption path (for Amon’s and Akira’s sake mainly) and he took it.
Meanwhile, I don’t think Griffith will ever stop being Femto and find a way to make it up to Guts and Casca for everything he did to them. There again, I could be wrong since the 5 Angels of the Godhand were once humans, but so far, that doesn’t seem to be a part of his plan.
Ahem, so anyway, I don’t think the dynamics can really be compared Anon, sorry :3 Someone else might propose a different opinion though!
That’s the problem with anonymity I guess…
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