Looks like there are two old oegs. The one Eto talked about lived 100 years ago and CCG was founded because of him/her. The other one attacked CCG after WW2.

midnight-in-town:

midnight-in-town:

Hello and sorry Anon, but I don’t recall such a thing?

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There was this guy a hundred years ago:

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And then Eto, who started to confront the CCG 13 years ago but with Arima as her counterpart playing the role of the OEK… 

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And then all of Kanou’s experiments (Kaneki, the twins, Amon, Takizawa) to end with, to this day, the Qs and the Oggai.

For now I don’t remember any other OEG, I even double checked with the wikia to be sure => [CCG] [OEGs] [Legendary OEG].
So unless I’m really missing something, I don’t see what you’re talking about (please remember that if your assumption comes from the anime, it’s not canon), sorry. :/

Have a nice weekend Anon. 🙂


EDIT: OMG MY MISTAKE!!

I apologize for my confusion Anon, you were absolutely right! 

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OMG, thanks for sharing this Anon, it’s true that I can now understand why there is a misunderstanding over this and that I was completely wrong, my bad!!

Honestly, now that you mentioned it, I remember being slightly “??” in ch128 over Nishiki’s timeline with “the OEG who almost destroyed the CCG” since it was only VERY roughly making it 100 years old:

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but then I just assumed that, since the two info were brought by two different characters…

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…the rebellion with “the legendary OEG” had only approximately happened 100 years ago and that they were talking about the same thing.

However now that you Anons both brought it up, I realize that you’re right and that something is definitely off: 

  • because on the one hand, we’ve got Eto talking about what seems to be “the CCG’s creation” 100+ years ago to defeat an extremely powerful OEG
    • that’s “the legendary OEG” mentioned by Eto in ch61.
  • and on the other, Nishiki talked about what seemed to be the creation of “V”, somewhere that sounds like it was earlier than 100 years ago
    • that’s the OEG who apparently created the 24th ward and he was mentioned by Kaneki in ch121 and Nishiki in ch128.

So…

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yeah it makes sense that there were 2 OEGs: the one who started the whole thing 100 years ago (the legendary OEG) and who led to the creation of the CCG + the one who almost destroyed the CCG (the OEG who created the 24th ward) and who led to the creation of V.

And Kaneki’s side believes that the one who created the 24th ward (the second OEG) is still alive, which is who Ayato was searching for in that city below.

The question is who are they and which one is “the Nagaraj”? 

I always had two candidates in mind for the role of who I thought was the only OEG before Eto: Noro and Uta. However, now that there very possibly were two OEGs before Eto, they might both fit for the roles.

  • When Noro died, all that was left was a skull: 
    • so it’s possible he’s the legendary OEG because the skull meant he was at least 100 years old? => I’m being careful here tho, because we can’t be sure.
  • On the other hand, Yoshimura gave Eto to Noro in the 24th ward and Yoshimura was old enough to be of the same generation as the second OEG :
    • so maybe Noro was the second OEG and the creator of the 24th ward, which is why he took Eto (another OEG) under his care to protect her from V, the ones who had previously defeated him (and for whom Yoshimura used to work)
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Uwah, so many thoughts… Hopefully we will learn more about this from the kids Ayato will bring back (if Touka is still around to translate)!
The best part kinda is that Kaneki’s side is looking for the second OEG, the one linked to V and to the 24th ward, when the one still alive probably is the legendary OEG who started the whole war (Uta?). xD

Again, I apologize for being really misleading with the timeline, especially to the first Anon. Truth be told, I’ve been stuck on the Roze arc in my rereading of :Re (I’m not fond of this arc :/) hence my confusion and writing off all of this as one event with an approximate timeline. Now I’m really excited to find out more, thanks to you two!

Thanks again for pointing this out! Have a nice weekend Anon. :))

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Hello again Anon :3

Well, you’re the one who mentioned two OEGs in the first place. xD However, seeing the two distinct timelines we were given (one by Eto about “the CCG, 100+ years ago” and one by Nishiki about what seems to be “V, earlier than 100 years ago”), it seems to mean there were indeed 2 troublemakers before Eto. 

I think that Ishida is definitely trying to confuse us though, probably because there is supposed to be an unexpected development somewhere, but I really can’t say where he intends on tricking us. 

That’s why we can’t be sure of who did what, if they were really 2 or only one who attacked twice, and who “the Nagaraj” was. And that’s why I’m hoping the kids with Ayato…

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will shed some light onto this specific plot point. 

Anyway, no matter if there was one or two, or if Noro is one of the two or not, we’re definitely going to learn more about Eto’s childhood in the 24th ward at some point and surely about Noro as well…

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So it seems Ishida still has quite a lot to tell us, hence why it’s hard to be sure of anything. x)

For now I’m vouching for two OEGs before Eto, with Noro being the one who built the 24th ward and welcomed Eto because of what had happened to him with V. When it comes to Uta, it’s trickier because so far the idea only rests on symbolism, but we’ll see. 🙂

Thanks again for passing by, I hope my answer did not disappoint this time! ^^

Have a nice weekend :))

Hello Nikki! A lot of the fandom believes that Eto is alive and will return to the story soon. What do you think her newfound role will be since Kaneki is currently King like she planned? Do you think she’ll step in and help him adjust to the role of a better King that gives the world a factory reset like she wanted? It may not be necessary considering recent speculation that Furuta will push Kaneki to become the Dragon, and end his hypocrisy of not killing humans.

kingkishou:

Hello sesshomarusenpai! You must follow me on twitter lol. 

I’m actually one of those people who believes Eto is alive and will return. Ishida always, ALWAYS makes a spectacle out of deaths, and I can’t imagine a world where he just lets a big important character like Eto die off-screen.

But yeah, there’s several reasons why I think the kagune might belong to her. She:

  • has a “V” RC pattern from her father
  • uses her ukaku kagune like a rinkaku, and has the ability to shape it into tentacles, hands, mouths, and even industrial pieces. Mimicking Rize’s kagune will be no biggie for her.
  • knows Hinami personally, and gave her a speech about “not doing things alone” (like dying *cough*)
  • promised Kaneki that she’d “help”
  • knows her way around the 24th Ward tunnels.
  • And it would be Juuzou vs Eto part 2. This time, Juuzou took a leg off of someone, and he’s the monster.

Also, like I said in my tweet there, Eto was revealed to be Takatsuki in E(pisode)14, and she also appeared as the second Owl in Ch143 of the first series. 


Back to your question, I don’t think Eto will help him “adjust”, but she definitely has a way of giving people a hard push when they need it. If he were to lose the people he loves right now, he will definitely give up on being the OEK– Eto obviously doesn’t want that. Just the knowledge that this was a close call could force him to step up his game a bit.

Also, she grew up in the 24th Ward, and could offer some guidance to it’s secrets and tunnels. There still needs to be an explanation about Noro eventually (his clothing matched those of the people Ayato met), and she has the keys to all of that. Her information may not always be precise (she loves to add a bit of flourish, you know?), but she is brilliant and could offer a lot to Kaneki while he’s trying to sort things out.

Anyway, even if that kagune really does belong to Eto, it doesn’t mean that Kaneki isn’t going to show up. We already saw that he’s on his way, and –regardless of the fact that his family is safe– his headquarters is a burning pile of wreckage and the reality of the situation is going to slam into him like a truck. 

The whole “I just need to protect them” is going to turn into “I need to kill or suffer the consequences”. He may still be Dragon :’)

I’m a bit confused regarding the past OEKs. Before Arima and Kaneki, was there only one OEK or more. It’s said the predecessor organization of the CCG was created in 1890 because of an extremely powerful OEG that humanity needed to unite against in order to defeat (implying they did so). However, both Roma and Nishio have stated the underground king was active only several decades ago, and Nishio states that he survived his initial loss

Hello! Basically, here’s a summary:

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Then 

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And that was appromximately 100 years ago (this OEK is the one Nishiki and Roma were referring to, the one V was created to take down).

Then, years and years later, Eto was born from Ukina and Yoshimura. She became the One Eyed Owl and created Aogiri. The first time she faced Arima, they realized that they might share a common goal and…

he became the OEK figure of Aogiri.

And then Eto and Arima passed on the reins to Kaneki, the first artificial OEG and Kanou’s biggest success so far:

Even though Kaneki is the current OEK after Arima gave the title to him, Furuta is also the king of his own side and an artificial OEG so I guess he’s also deserving the title of the “one eyed king”, even if that title is mostly used to refer to Kaneki right now. 

And Kaneki is currently trying to find a way to meet the 100 years old OEK who took ghouls down into the 24th ward, which is why he sent Ayato down below, hoping he’d find something. You have my current guess about the 100 years old OEK’s identity here

Don’t forget that all these info were brought by different people though, so it might not be 100% accurate until we know the whole truth and maybe meet the 100 years old OEK.

I hope it helps, have a nice day!

On Narrators, Observers and the Sun Arc

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So for once I’m going to make a meta on how things might not be as bad as they look. It’s shocking, I know. There’s something I’ve noticed though, that was revealed this chapter that I have not seen anybody else talking about.

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That the narrator who carries such an objective and flourishing style in narration that was almost absent from Tokyo Ghoul with the exception of the end of chapter and beginning of chapter brief segments, is none other than Furuta himself. Not only that but for most of the time, these narrations are completely objective and more descriptive of the situation around him rather than Furuta’s actual thoughts and emotions.

Clickbait title: why is naki going to survive? Find out below. 

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More parallels with the anteiku raid arc to come

Sorry but I had to get this idea out of my head ASAP.

E14/V14, Juuzou/Arima, Touka/Kaneki, I don’t think I need to make a list of all the parallels so far and anyway, what I’m interested in is trying to predict the outcome of the next few chapters.

First of all, it’s quite obvious that Touka is not going to die (#plot armor) but there is indeed no way that she and Hina can win against Juuzou and all the other investigators with him (even if Ayato were in time to help). However…

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this flashback bothers me. I’m personally convinced that Touka is the one who left them by Shinohara’s bedside (@coromoor explained why she would do that here), but I fail to see the point of Juuzou remembering about these flowers if it’s not supposed to play a role in the confrontation to come, especially…

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since he definitely recognized her from somewhere (he says “ah”). 

Of course it might be from that one time in Anteiku, it’s definitely possible, but nothing actually tells us that Juuzou didn’t end up finding out about who brought the flowers over time. After all, who knows, maybe he met her once as she came to bring more flowers? She definitely came more than once, as we know with ch16.

Anyway, my first point is, Juuzou’s memory is significant to the current face-off with Touka and there might be more flashbacks to these flowers if he indeed knows who brought them. 

The second point is, Juuzou is wary of Furuta…

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and of the current conflict, and it reached such a level that once he said…

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which led to Nakarai and Hanbee speaking about him and wondering…

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And this makes me think that, no matter how many times Juuzou was compared to Arima, he’s not ready to go on and on about pretending to agree with the CCG’s current plan when he doesn’t (unlike Arima, whom hardly anyone knew was the OEK before Kaneki).

So, if we’re saying that… 

  • Juuzou knows that Touka brought flowers to Shinohara (hence him recognizing her and remembering about the flowers at the hospital)
  • but that as an investigator and Arima 2.0 he has to kill her because she’s a ghoul 
  • but that he’s despising his current boss and disagreeing with his projects

…then maybe Touka’s (and Hina’s) obvious survival is linked to Juuzou not harming the one who apparently cared about visiting Shinohara from time to time despite being a ghoul, because Juuzou will choose turn against Furuta who’s currently right behind him instead.

And how could this be a parallel with TG ch141/142?

Well, now, it’s only a crack theory but in TG ch141/142: 

  • we had Ui and Hirako teaming up against the One Eyed Owl
  • until Arima and the 0 Squad arrived to face the One Eyed Owl
  • but the One Eyed Owl managed to get away with the Owl and we found out about her identity at the very end of ch142

Meanwhile in :Re

  • Ui and Hirako are currently fighting each other
  • Juuzou and other men are currently facing Touka and Hina, but I just tried to explain that he might not attack Touka if he knows she’s the one who brought the flowers to Shinohara
  • we are still lacking an important reveal of the scale of Eto = the One Eyed Owl & Takatsuki Sen to parallel the end of ch142

Also, most importantly, the “Furuta” in :Re ch140 might not be Furuta

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…as @kingkishou pointed out here (and I agree because the narration is ultra weird => we know he’s a OEG and that he can heal so “almost as if there had been no ambush”, “his skin as glossy and supple as ever”, like, that makes sense so why bring it up???).

So, assuming for this crack theory that it’s not Furuta but Uta, it’s interesting that he is currently with Juuzou’s group when Juuzou…

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…already experienced why Uta is called “No Face”. 

Not to say that Juuzou would have noticed anything about “Furuta”, but if Juuzou decides not to attack Touka and to backstab (or face stab) “Furuta” instead, we might have another Juuzou vs Uta fight which is where the big parallel with TG ch142 might be, because:

and there you would have a massive plot twist/reveal/parallel to compare with TG ch142.


I’m aware it’s a lot of “if, if, if” (if Juuzou turns against Furuta, if Furuta is actually Uta, if Uta is indeed over 100 years old and a OEG) but again:

  • I don’t think Touka is going to die
  • I don’t think Juuzou remembering about the flowers at the hospital is completely random
  • ch128 did hint that the Clowns might be involved in the current arc (Roma and Rio were with Furuta back at the CCG, but we don’t know what the others are doing) 
  • we’ve been hearing about the previous OEK being alive despite being 100 years old (and given hints as to how this would be possible => Roma, Noro) for a while now and I don’t think this previous OEK is a new character

TL;DR my general prediction for the next chapters (/! there is a very good chance that I’m completely off /!) are:

  • :Re ch141 => Ui vs Hirako, Suzuya’s squad vs Touka and Hinami, but at the very end instead of killing Touka, Juuzou throws knives at “Furuta”
  • :Re ch142 =>  Suzuya vs Uta and we might finally know who’s the 100 years old previous OEK is
  • :Re ch143 => Kaneki comes back to the 24th ward and never trusts himself again

Again, please take with a grain of salt!

Hello, when Eto is talking to Furuta in Cochlea she mentions that the King exists and « it’s in your bellies. » Do you know what she was referring to by this?

Hello!

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Personal interpretation, but since Furuta and Eto were talking about V and Eto referred to Furuta as “Washuu”, I read this as her hinting that the OEK came from V/the Washuus (which is 100% true since Arima was born and raised in the sunlit garden, that’s literally all he has known his whole life and yet he still became the OEK). 

So for me it was Eto’s way of telling Furuta that the OEK who frightened V so much was amongst them, that he came from the depth of V itself, from the very beginning.

I hope it makes sense! Have a nice weekend Anon 🙂

The Witch’s Servant

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This is a full on theory post which is something I rarely do, it’s also not my personal theory but a summary of fandom theories that have existed for a long time. I can’t track down the original posts, but know I’m more of a collector of evidence in this case rather than the first person to point that out. 

That being said I’ve been receiving a lot of asks lately on what Hide’s future role in the story could be. For me the most likely theory has always been the witch’s servant theory. As to who the witch is: Only one character has ever been depicted as a witch in Tokyo Ghoul. 

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Eto is also connected to the witch through Tarot her associated card the queen of clubs as pointed out by @pipirupirulance​ here [x] is guarded by a black cat.

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Yes, please, read this:

The Queen represents the yin, or receptive qualities of each element.
She shows an appreciation of that element rather than the King’s social use of it. This does not mean that the Queens indicate weakness, or even inaction, but rather the element translated into feeling and understanding. A black cat guards her throne. In Christian folklore the Devil gave a black cat to a witch to guard her from attack. The meaning here is less melodramatic. Sometimes if a person loves life, the world appears to respond by protecting that person from harm and send her or him joyous experiences. (From the book: “ Seventy-Eight Degrees of Wisdom ”)

And yes, that is a sunflower. Just so you know.

The sunflower represents her naturally sunny outlook and disposition and along with the lions, which form the armrests of her throne, connect her to theFire sign of Leo if found with the Strength and Sun card of the Major Arcana. (x)

To further the tarot argument connection between the two though while still on the topic, let’s talk about the arcana of the sun. In Tokyo Ghoul, there is a theory that each individual arc is based off of a major arcana tarot card in the fool’s journey. 

The most recent arcs have been the star -> the Moon and then the next logical one would be -> the sun. 

The star arc is when the Fool is offered a brief realization, that inspires hope in him. 

The Fool is suffused with a serene calm. The beautiful images on the Star (17) attest to this tranquility. The woman pictured on Card 17 is naked, her soul no longer hidden behind any disguise. Radiant stars shine in a cloudless sky serving as a beacon of hope and inspiration.

I also predicted for a long time this is the first time we would see any mention of direct Hide in the manga, and what two characters showed up right around the same time again and swelled in importance.

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Both characters suddenly appear on Kaneki’s doorstep, and give him part of the answer but not the whole answer. Both characters are also tied to the concept of breaking the egg, the Demian quote is first brought up by Kaneki when he needed to protect Hide, and then later repeated by Eto. The chapter in which Hide shows up in Kaneki’s subconscious is named “K’s Egg.”

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Then next comes the moon, in which after being filled with hope the Fool makes a mistake and then falls into a trap.

What effect could spoil this perfect calm? Is there another challenge for the Fool? In fact, it is his bliss that makes him vulnerable to the illusions of the Moon (18). The Fool’s joy is a feeling state. His positive emotions are not yet subject to mental clarity. In his dreamy condition, the Fool is susceptible to fantasy, distortion and a false picture of the truth.

The reason Eto and Hide were mentioned in the star, only to disappear again is because the Moon is an illusion that makes it seem like the insightful light of the star is all but gone. 

The character who physically removed Eto from the manga, is the embodiment of the moon himself, Furuta.

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As long as Furuta is the antagonist, the manga will remain in the moon too. However the point of the Moon is illusion and assumption, as long as we are in the moon arc everything is not as it seems. Furuta may seem like the main antagonist for now, but he’ll only last as long as the moon arc lasts.

Once Furuta exits the story though, then the sun will come in. There are two characters who are associated with the sun so far in comic. First, Uta who has made his reappearance in the middle of this moon arc (funny how that works huh). 

You can read his association with the sun here [x]  There’s also Yoriko who is associated with sunflowers, which are once again the flowers on the physical card of the sun.

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A character who has also been brought back to relevance in the middle of the moon arc, to quite obviously set up for the next arc. As I foreshadowed above, as the Sun arc is the arc of long kept secrets finally being revealed and the final enlightenment card of the tarot it is very likely that Rize will also make her reappearance in this arc, she might even be the first one as she’s destined to kill Furuta.

Returning to Hide and Eto then, the two of them are going to appear together. Metaphorically, they each appeared to guide Kaneki in the star, but there’s also evidence in comic that they are working together. The play that appears in Kaneki’s flashback with brain ghost Rize is the one responsible for foreshadowing his rise as the one eyed king, if that’s the case then Hide’s specifically mentioned role in the play should be foreshadowing too.

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The way that Kaneki even refers to his position as main character in the play, mirrors how he became the one eyed king. Not a result of his own choice, but rather setup and manipulation by both Arima and Eto. 

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Hide also references the same play, but at the time Hide says that Kaneki instead of being forced into the main character, lived up to the role, was bold, and surprisingly good at acting. Kaneki views it self depreciatingly, while Hide views it from the outside and sees his success despite pushed into that role.

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(This also comes from 118, unlocking, which is a chapter after 117 where Furuta gets mistaken for Kaneki and we see his face for the first time, what a strange coincidence). 

In the unused root A drafts there even exists a scene directly from the play where Hide recites lines from the play, saying the witch’s servant was a good friend of the prince who betrayed him, because he thought it would help him. [x]

Besides the play parallel though, Hide shows a general knowledge of ghouls that a normal human shouldn’t have. He knows how to exploit their weaknesses, shoving human food in the face of a ghoul chasing after him. He’s also the one who leaked the location of Aogiri’s base to the CCG, even though that turned out to be a trap to facilitate Aogiri’s prison break. 

Hide is even seen meeting with Takatsuki Sen in person and discussing ghouls with her.

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This same book is the one that shows up on Kaneki’s doorstep.

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Which Uta himself confirms that he did not send. Which means Hide or Eto are the only ones who could have sent it. Even more convincingly though, the one who ends up bringing Kaneki’s memories back fully is Eto.

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The question is why did she go to such great extent for Kaneki? Eto was literally manufacturing half ghouls en masse, or at least attempting to in an arm’s race to find king candidates to replace Arima. Somebody must have convinced her of Kaneki’s worth, that she went to such great length to set this up with Kaneki. We receive a partial insight into this with Kaneki’s flashback of Hide.

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The way Hide talks “You must show him you are worth keeping alive”, is as if he brokered some kind of deal with Arima, and by extension Eto, that Kaneki was worth her time. After all, Eto expressed an interest in Kaneki before this. 

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So there are plenty of hints of what Hide’s betrayal was. It’s vague so far but my theory is that Hide knew Eto somehow before the events of Tokyo Ghoul even began, possibly through some relation to Ukina. Then Hide became invested to help Kaneki and went to Eto sometime after Kaneki became a ghoul. His betrayal is the deal that he brokered with her “You’re looking for a one eyed king, I’ll help you motivate Kaneki to become one eyed king if you promise to keep him alive when she shows his worth to you.”

From that point forward Eto, Hide and possibly Arima collaborated both to motivate Kaneki to fight Arima in V14, to restore Haise’s memories, to reveal parts of the Washuu to Kaneki and convince him to become one eyed king, and finally in the sun arc both Hide and Eto will make their reappearance into the plot and finally explain all of this. 

At which point Hide will apologize to Kaneki for betraying him and becoming the witch’s servant for Kaneki’s sake. 

I’m curious if hide found out about ukina while doing his private investigation and reading dr.ogura’s book on ghouls in the og series, she was an investigative reporter and I always wondered she had other cases on ghouls before she moved on to V

Hello! Well I don’t know about Hide, but I’m really curious about Ukina in general, because a lot of things about her are just… strange. Like…

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she was a journalist investigating V and yet she was also a waitress

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so I always thought that she had been onto Kuzen from day 1. Which means…

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that I’m wondering if Eto’s version is not actually the accurate one, because Yoshimura could never admit to himself that it had been all a lie and that the woman he loved was just using him from day 1. :/ 

Anyway, the point is, Ukina has to have come from somewhere because how did a human find out about V? So I’m thinking that she must have a link to someone/something else in the story (Sphinx? Yasuhisa Nanao? Kanou? the “evil ghoulification experiments by the CCG”? at some point I even considered Mado Kasuka) through which she found out about V and started investigating them by approaching Kuzen.

Back to your question, there is a good possibility that Hide might be backed up by someone (considering all the stuff that he knows) just like it’s possible he was acting on his own the whole time (and he has his own info network), so depending on which it is, he might or not know something about Ukina that we don’t. 

I have a very old post about Ukina (so everything might not be 100% accurate) if you’re interested, but anyway I’m hoping Sensei will give us more answers about her, because I’m really looking forward to knowing what exactly happened and if she ended up falling in love with Kuzen over time or if Eto was really nothing more than “an unnecessary byproduct” where she was concerned.

Have a nice day Anon!

Hi! What are your thoughts about the touken baby? I have this completely-without-solid-base theory that if he lives, he may gain the place of new king. /:Re/ or its sequel finishes not with touka or kaneki dead,but with both ; and their son will lead the group finally to change the system,for better or for worse; depending how the manga ends and the place/position where he’s raised.

Hello 🙂 I actually gave my thoughts on the subject and reblogged posts I agreed with several times before so here you go:

Should be enough to give you a good idea of my opinion. 🙂 However, I don’t think that the story will go on until we get to see the child (if it survives) becoming an adult and an eventual leader. First of all, I don’t think that Touka and Kaneki will die at the end of TG since :Re isn’t supposed to be a tragedy.

Second thing, I believe the pregnancy has a direct involvement into the plot and not just the dynamic between Kaneki and Touka. Obviously, it will help with their development no matter if it ends well or not, but mostly, this pregnancy plays a huge part (in my opinion) into introducing coexistence as the ultimate goal/chance of making this world a better place.

I already explained it once before, but the main reason that the TG world is so twisted is because approximately 100 years ago V created an “equilibrium” after defeating the previous OEG, which seems to be about keeping the ghoul and human species separated, under the pretext that the humans were good but weak preys to the “evil ghoul kind”.

As for the reason why they created this equilibrium…

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I supposed that it’s partly because of hybrids like the previous OEG and Eto (who are the only naturally born one-eyed ghouls so far).
Keeping the human and ghoul kinds separated seemed to be a necessity until now, so that no hybrid born outside of the Sunlit Garden would come to be a threat to the world that V jailed into a bird cage with two locks.

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Now back to Kaneki and Touka: despite being an artificial OEG, Kaneki genetically stays a human while Touka is a ghoul, but they fell in love and Touka became pregnant…

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…their situation being the only example in the story for now of a hybrid pregnancy with a ghoul mama (Eto and many in the Sunlit Garden being from #possibility 1), so we have no idea how we’re supposed to overcome the issue that Itori stated long ago for #possibility 2. 

We were given enough proof until now to understand that humans and ghouls were probably once the same species but that genetic mutations ended up making them quite different over the years: both have Rc cells, but the ghouls having higher rates is probably the reason they developed a kakuhou in order to regulate their high numbers of Rc cells through the utilization of the kagune (and kakugan I suppose). 

…Ahem, sorry for rambling, so anyway, the point is that from what I understand so far:

  • there aren’t supposed to be any hybrid outside of the Sunlit Garden and V uses the “failures/half-humans” like Arima, Furuta, Hairu as CCG investigators to help maintaining the idea that “ghouls are evil and shall be killed”
  • unless the hybrids are “pure enough” to be “wombs”/”breeders” (like Rize), and in that case they used to help with the survival of the “pure” Washuu family.
  • That’s why V was after Eto (because she was a naturally born OEG, like the previous big troublemaker of 100 years ago) and why Yoshimura hid her in the 24th ward
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  • That’s also why Kaneki and Touka’s lil baby is important because it might be the first hybrid child to live a happy life if his parents can change the world and make it a safe place thanks to coexistence (and destroying V for good).

However, the fact that ghouls and humans aren’t exactly the same species is why Touka’s pregnancy is complicated (see, her body can mistake the baby for nutrients and absorb it), which is why I think understanding all the differences between humans and ghouls (on a biological level) and finding a way to overcome them (@ probably thanks Kanou) is the only way in my opinion to make coexistence possible and to make sure that Touka’s pregnancy will be viable. 

TL;DR I see Touka’s pregnancy has a direct plot thread to Kaneki seeking coexistence, like Furuta’s super peace [x][x][x], Kanou’s researches and Kimi helping him, even if I could be totally wrong.
In my opinion, the pregnancy is a narrative mean (amongst others) to ending the plot of Tokyo Ghoul (especially if the baby is indeed born) and to developing Kaneki and Touka as well as their relationship. The child and its future however are not really a direct part of the plot but, again, I could be wrong.

Sorry it was a long answer, I added lots of details in the other links above so I hope it’s understandable! 

Have a nice day 🙂