I am honestly not satisfied with Yana’s character development of the P4. She should have let P4 die during the Public School Arc or turn them into completely new roles (Ciel’s allies) during the Blue Sect Arc if she wants to « reuse » them. I am unhappy to see how she bent their personalities from serious, law-abiding, talented aristocratic schoolboys to wishy-washy, attention-whorish idol singers. It is literally Ciel vs. a sloppy version of P4, a clumsy re-make of Weston Arc.

Hey Anon! Ah, well, I don’t agree but you’re free to have your own opinion on this subject 🙂

Personally I don’t find the S4 to be that different from when they were in Weston, the only difference being that in Weston they were figures of authority and as such held a position of power, while now they’re more humble, because they’re helping Bravat in order to atone for the sins they’ve committed at Weston.

They’re full of good intention, no one can deny that, except that they’re too naive, but still, I think it’s amazing how their friendship survived through all of this.

Besides this arc makes it clear that it’s not about them but about wanting to be useful, so I find that this is a giant step forward in their characterization, even if they still don’t realize they’re pawns in someone else’s game.

 

That being said, you might be unhappy that Yana “bent their personalities”, but I personally never liked the one trope-one characterization thing (I mean the P4 were the biggest stereotypical characters of the whole cast so far) and I’m glad that they’re now a more homogeneous group, while still having their differences, because they’re still linked tightly even despite everything that happened. 

I know it’s not a popular opinion but I like this arc even if the pace is super slow, just like I liked the Weston arc and I’m happy that the S4 are a part of it, even if it seems like it’s a redo of the Weston arc because they’re in the opposite side again. 

As I was saying though, it’s just my opinion and I’m sorry if this feels like a cheap arc and cheap writing to you :/ Maybe the next chapters will change your mind? I hope so in any case. 

Have a nice day Anon!

Random observations about the blue sect arc

Rereading the arc, so just a few things to maybe ponder on or a few possibly interesting details. 

  • The Queen visiting Sieglinde
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A little mention towards the war subplot: the Queen is still all about using Sieglinde in her war against Germany.
I already said once before that I think she definitely knows Ciel got rid of the “SULIN”, so she most certainly visits Sieglinde because she intends on getting her trust until Sieglinde won’t be able to refuse creating some stuff for Victoria, or something similar.

The Queen is clever and dangerous. Not that it’s anything new.


  • People of influence being patrons of the Sphere music hall, a link with Alexis Midford?
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I think everyone already pondered about Alexis and Frances’ absence since the beginning of the arc because it’s been probably one month and a half since Lizzie ran away from home.
So plot convenience or not, I’m wondering if there could be a link between their absence and a good number of Lords being involved with the Sphere music hall?

Alexis is the leader of the Knight Order after all and I’m guessing many Lords are Knights. Ciel himself received something from him when he got his title of Earl from the Queen…

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This is a theory we discussed at the beginning of the arc with @darkspellmaster, so all that to say that maybe Alexis, as the Head Knight, will have a role to play in regards to what’s going on within the Sphere music hall and maybe that’s why Yana didn’t mention either him or Frances ever since the beginning of the arc.


  • The S4 only want to atone for their sins by making people happy
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I don’t know how Bravat got to meet with the S4

(if UT is involved, maybe through the “pact” the S4 made with UT when they killed Derrick and co) but it’s obvious that he is using their regrets and wishes to atone for their crimes to manipulate them as his pawns.

I don’t know if the S4 told him what they did and he gave them a new purpose, or if he “knew in advance” like for Lizzie, Ciel and Sebastian (in that case, the person who told him all that about those seven characters is someone who knew all of them, and then again UT is the most likely possibility), but it’s really sad that the S4 only want to make people happy and don’t seem to notice

(Violet aside probably) how they will follow Bravat if he falls.

I wish the F5 could maybe talk with them, but as this point, I doubt they’d listen, because they’re too enthralled by Bravat.


  • Why Nina as the Sphere music hall’s taylor?
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Why the enthusiasm? I mean, I think Nina is indeed extremely talented but since she’d have initially refused, how come they only wanted her?

Because she’s innovative and not so traditional? 
Because of plot convenience so Ciel would have one way of getting info because Nina’s family knows about the Phantomhives’ duty? 
Because of… another reason?

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  • Lizzie’s different outifts
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I know many people wrote about Lizzie’s different outfits, but I just find interesting how those two panels are just completely the opposite to one another: ribbons, earrings, gloves, bracelet vs no bracelet, swords, simple dress vs an elegant one (that is also different from what she usually wears as well)… 

I wonder why sometimes she wears the simple dress (when she goes giving her blood for example) and why she wore the elegant one as well as all her other accessories when she fought Sebastian. 

We can also wonder why she’s barefoot in the middle of the day (for example when she goes to see Ciel in ch113 as he’s asleep and giving his blood) and what she even does of her days at the Sphere music hall in the first place.

It’s obvious she isn’t like the S4 or the other people welcoming the guests giving their blood and, as I was saying, since she often was wearing the dress on the left during the middle of the day, she’s not always carrying her swords around…

We still have quite the huge mystery on her side of the subplot, huh… 


  • Ciel as a great businessman

This one is more of an ascertainment that if Ciel hadn’t gone through… well, everything that he went through, he would have probably been all about business during his life, because he seems to completely enjoy this (and he does understand customers well).

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I just find this cute when he’s so passionate. No need to wonder why the Funtom corporation (his company, that he created after becoming Earl Phantomhive) works so well, it’s not just sheer luck.

Character Analysis: Edgar Redmond’s moral compass

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One of the most powerfull scenes for me in the Weston arc is when Maurice Cole finally gets a call-out. There are more strong scenes, of course, but big deal here is Edgar’s reaction. And that Edgar was hurt for more things that Maurice’s actions. I’ll elaborate. 

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This is a very powerfull moment. He seems calm, but his posture is too perfect, his back is not rested on the backrest, I bet his voice is neutral, it just… has a seriousness so unlike him. He’s anything but calm. There is also resignation on him, and this hurts my heart.  

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“I’m ashamed of my inability to judge people”. Pretty normal thing to say when someone betrayed you, isn’t? But the phrase before that, “Even you betrayed me…” leaves something on the air. He’s not surprised, because people has betrayed him before. Who could have betrayed him before? It wasn’t any of his closest friends aka the other prefects, and he’s a young man, betrayal seems like a strong word. He has lived this before and the question is how and who betrayed him.

A lot of things happen after it. Ciel becoming a fag, the cricket tournament. You may even forget the question or maybe not even take it into account in the first place (I know I didn’t). But then we have more context to what Edgar is saying. 

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It’s clear why he didn’t go with the rest to see what was Maurice doing. I mean, yes, maybe Ciel told him to stay, but truth be told he probably was terrified to find himself again facing that (and no wonder why he is ashamed). 

Derrick was Edgar’s fag. Edgar has been fooled not once but twice, and in the same way. People who use other people to gain his trust.(And Ciel did it too, btw, just… in a different way). This is what trully bothers him, that they lied to him, and that he couldn’t see beyond their praises. 

He’s of course upset because they are shaming what Weston means, but it’s because he likes what Weston means and believes in this (and being honest is part of weston). Not because Weston’s set of value was something he thought it had to be done word by word because that’s what they teached him, but because weston fits with him and he thought everything was “meant to be”. 

And I think it comes down that Edgar is not really a rule freak. Not really. 

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Everyone was calling on a Y. He’s the guy who gave this dude that had alcohol 4Y and Soma, who broke the house with an elephant, 5Y (talk about influence). He follows the rules lightly, at his own accord. He forgave Ciel because he was small and pretty and it was an honest mistake. 

I think Edgar’s morality is heavily based on his own perceptions of the world. What I mean is that Edgar would not have left himself be swallow by Weston’s ideals if he didn’t believe them fit for himself in the first place. He has this sense of detachment, he acts at his own free will, which is why he was so quickly into act like he did and hide everything as quick as he could. To put it more simply: he decided to be a puppet, and he would act like this in any contexts, in any set of values (cofcofbluesectcof). He’s a good prefect, he worked hard to achieve that, and he follows the rules, but he follows the rules not because he has to but because he trully believes in them and wants to honour them. He calls Lawrence by his name because the rule that says is forbidden is stupid and he likes to tease his childhood friend.

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He and Gregory actually share this phylosophy. Greenhill was about to take himself to give himself up, if it weren’t for Gregory and Edgar’s mental resistence and disdain for silly moralities that don’t fit their own morality (as warped as it was on weston’s). Lawrence agreed to the plan when Gregory and Edgar took the charge of the situation, but he was as clueless as you can be before that.

 And I’m not saying Lawrence is a weak who followed his friends in everything and that he’s actual innocent. He’s not, he helped to hold Agares and was as involved as anyone. He was proud too to help. But Violet and Edgar were the ones controlling the situation after everything happened, taking charge of the mood, because they were the ones that announced it. “We’re in this together” .

Edgar really shows how far he will go for the things he believes and for the things he trust in. He really only cares about what he thinks fit, be it weston’s rules or blue cult’s morality. And what he apreciates the more in people is honesty and loyalty. Which is why the scene with Maurice cause a big impact in me now that I see Edgar like this. Damn Maurice. 

P.S: this is part of the reasons why I don’t believe they were actually brain-washed for the Blue Cult. I think they’re acting at their own will. This is why Gregory can dare to act melancholic, and all of them were tully happy to keep practicing even after Bravat told them to rest. Minus Gregory, maybe, they genuinily think this is good for them, they genuinily believe what the Blue Cult is preaching and they’re working hard because of this. Which only makes it more tragical at my sight. 

I do think Blue Cult is hiding information of them, of course. 

(You can disagree with the content of this post all you want, since is just an interpretation of his character). 

Do you think that it’s bad to hope that Druitt has nothing to do with the sect (for once?). That he wouldn’t put Edgar in danger? And that maybe he loves enough his nephew for not putting him in a mortal danger? This sect seems kill people (maybe not in a 100% voluntary way) and even if I can see Druitt uses Edgar like « bait », I doesn’t want to believe that he would leave his nephew in a dangerous situation where his life could be threatened.

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I don’t think Druitt would intentionally put his nephew in danger.
He may be a human-trafficking self-centered villain with mouth that begs for a punch he’s actually one of my faves if you can’t tell, but judging by the little what we know about his relationship with Edgar, he wouldn’t do it.

Viscount may be a shitty person – yet, we must keep in mind that he’s not evil for the sake of being evil. 

During the Weston cricket tournament it was Viscount who showed up to cheer on Edgar though there might be another reason for his visit and their interactions didn’t hint at anything negative about their relationship. 
Again, it was Druitt who tried to help Edgar to cover up for Arden’s murder when Edgar asked him. That tells us that Redmond has his reasons to trust his uncle.
I wouldn’t be surprised if Druitt had some ties to this sect, but he doesn’t necessarily have to be aware of everything what’s going on in there. 

Maybe he wanted to help his nephew like he helped him with Arden. And it’s going to backfire like it backfired in Weston.

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Personal.

I found this super-adorable drawing of small Redmond and Bluer, when I was looking for a specific entry on Yana’s blog the other day:

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According to Yana, they are neighbours and know each other since they were children. (source: X)

Keeping this in mind, I then reread the Weston arc and noticed that

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Redmond

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always…

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calls

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Bluer

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by his first name. Always.

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THEY ARE CHILDHOOD FRIENDS…!!! (´;ω;`) I seriously have a soft spot for characters who are childhood friends 

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And after rereading the Weston arc I also noticed that I actually like the P4 very much. However, considering the latest chapter as well as the fact that they got totally brainwashed by the Blue Sect, I seriously doubt that this arc will end with a happy ending and that the P4 will survive…

Yana, please have mercy on them… (´;ω;`)

Bonus:

Small Violet looking intensely at an ant… (source: X)

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and small Greenhill as the type of child who always wears short-sleeved shirts, even in winter… (source: X)

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Maybe weird to think about, but I have a theory that Violet became more aware of Right vs Wrong when Soma told him that his pride is worthless and that it cannot be used to protect « his » people. While it may not have had an imidiate effect, maybe it is what is currently driving him in the Blue sect arc. He is obviously not as enthralled with the sect as the other are, and maybe it’s because he knows that he cannot be a leader/role model since what’s happening behind the sects scenes is wrong.

^ THIS! I hope you read @thedarkestcrow‘s post about the lockets seen in ch113 because this is totally relating to what you’re saying!

Honestly I really love this and it would be awesome if that’s actually what happened! Besides, I took another look at the flashback with Derrick upon reading your ask and…

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Violet never says a word about the murders in retrospect during the midnight tea party, it’s mostly Bluer and Redmond who talk, so maybe Violet ended up truly regretting that tradition became the wrong reason for murder even before the Blue Sect arc.

I agree with you, I think the reason he’s playing his part in the S4 quartet of Bravat’s sect despite “not feeling the magic” might because he doesn’t want to leave his friends completely manipulated because they want to forget their shame and what they did.
Their hands are stained and it will never go away, but while Bluer, Redmond and Greenhill tried to feel better by forgetting, maybe you’re right and Violet remembered Soma’s words and how they had killed 7 people for no good reason. 

I really love this and I hope Violet will talk more with Ciel to explain why he’s staying around despite knowing Bravat’s sect might not be such a great place. As I said before, I wouldn’t mind more time for Violet and Cheslock to shine in this arc, so here I am, hoping! 

Thanks a lot for sharing your thoughts, Anon, and have a good week! 🙂

PS: #Soma-is-awesome