Reading your berserk post makes me wonder about if Guts ever felt sorry about rejecting his demon kid. He was harsh with it a couple of times, even if it warned him about Casca being in danger. If the moon child really is the demon kid maybe that’s why he’s being so distant about Guts in appearance, because he’s afraid Guts might reject him again.

Hey Anon, thanks for reading and sorry for the delayed answer, I needed to reread a few things! 🙂 

Ahh, it’s one of my fav subjects in Berserk to be honest (considering Guts’ own issues about his one and only father figure, Gambino) but yeah, at first and considering Guts’ broken mental state before he met Puck, there is no denying that he definitely was harsh with his own child, because it was nothing more than yet another demon who could be after him because of the brand…

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But the demon infant probably redeemed himself in Guts’ mind when his warning about Casca turned out to be true.

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And from this moment on, even though they only briefly crossed path at the tower of conviction, I’d say Guts didn’t feel that the demon infant was a threat anymore, since the true warning proved that the little thing, even as a demon, wasn’t trying to harm him or Casca.  

When it comes to feeling sorry about it now that Guts is doing way better thanks to his new travelling companions though… Well I’d say he very probably does to some extent…

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…since he thought once more about the demon infant in vol28, wondering what the baby was up to (seeing as they haven’t seen each other since the tower of conviction).

Besides, in my opinion, since Guts was raised by a father figure he always looked up to and seeked praise and love from, to the point that his death still haunted him even years after…

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…Well, now that he’s emotionally more stable and that he knows the demon infant never wanted to harm either him or Casca, it’s very possible he has some regrets about behaving the way he did towards his child.
At least that’s how I interpreted those two pages of vol 28.

I’m pretty sure it’s a subject Miura will address again in the story by the way, especially because, Guts’ own issues about it aside, it will probably be a big deal to Casca once she’s cured and also especially if the moonlight child is related in some way to the demon infant. 

Besides, since Griffith used the demon infant to be reborn, I wouldn’t be surprised if knowing about this was enough to fuel Guts’ hatred towards Griffith one more time. 

Now, assuming the moonlight child and the demon infant are related/the same character…

(more rambling under read more) 

I… actually don’t think he’s that distant, even if there is a contrast with the way he constantly clings to Casca.
Curious would be a better word to describe his attitude towards Guts for me, especially since he directly tested Guts’ reaction to him in vol28…

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And the fact that he saved Guts several times (from himself/from the sea god) just makes me think that this kid is very intelligent.

Still assuming that they’re one and the same, if you recall

back when Griffith wasn’t reborn yet, the demon infant never approached Casca too closely, no matter the number of times he saved her life, because she would always try to take him in her arms…

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…and I always assumed that he wouldn’t let her either because

  • as long as there was some physical distance, even as a demon he wouldn’t react too much to the brand on her chest
  • or, as long as there was some physical distance, the brand wouldn’t react and hurt her too much.  

Now though, as the moonlight child, clinging to Casca isn’t a problem anymore since he doesn’t seem to be demonic, but Guts isn’t nearly as affectionate as Casca can be, which is probably why he settles on watching him intently and saving him as proof of… his affection/curiosity. 
His little test on vol 28 told him all he wanted to know about whether Guts would reject him or not anyway. 

TL;DR I can’t really say for sure about the moonlight child since we don’t really know what he is exactly (and how related he is to Griffith/Femto), but about your initial question on Guts and the demon infant, I definitely think Guts remembers about his child from time to time (as vol 28 showed) and he would probably be angry learning about what exactly happened to him during the battle at the tower of conviction.   

Besides, did you see how Guts acted towards him, even before the tower of conviction arc? He sure was aggressive but all he ever did was yelling at him, whereas he killed without second thoughts any other demons that would dare approach him. So I think that’s supposed to show that Guts always had conflicted feelings about his child…

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ever since the day he was born.

I hope that answers your question, sorry for all my rambling. Have a nice day Anon 🙂

Hey how Casca managed to reach the tower of saint Albion safely after she got lost if she was attacked every night because of the brand? Because I really don’t want this to be a plot hole or something.

Hey Anon! 

Ah well, Berserk is really not the story you have to worry about plot holes 😉 

So no matter how long Casca stayed alone travelling to the tower of conviction and even after she met Nina and Luca, every night…

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…Baby protected his mama! 🙂 

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So you see, no plot holes! That’s just not Berserk’s style. 🙂

I hope it answered your question, have a nice weekend Anon! 

berserk-confessions:

Some
people have speculated that as Femto is still ‘incomplete’ as a God
Hand (i.e. the sacrifices Casca and Guts are still alive) and share the
connection to Guts through wearing the body of the Demon Child like a
suit that this would mean that he would align with Guts.

I find
this to be implausible and, if Guts finds out what Femto has done to the
body of his child, this would just make him angrier as this would be
one more thing that Femto has ruined for the sake of his ambitions.

Also,
it may be worth noting that the other members of the God Hand represent
different aspects of the consciousness according to Freudian
psychoanalytical theory: Slan= Eros, Conrad=Thanatos, Void=Ego,
Ubik=Id.

So you could really say they are but functions in the
mind of the Idea of Evil- not necessarily evil in themselves in the
conventional sense but at the same time contributing to it.

So
this could mean that if anything Femto is more dangerous as he
represents a complete person or at least the Idea of Evil’s perception
of a complete person despite his ‘incomplete’ status.

In my mind,
I see the reverse, Guts and at least one of the God Hand (either Slan
or Void) working together (the latter fearing that this would be a
threat to their own state of dominion) to weaken Femto so that the Demon
Child’s mind can assert itself.

This coupled with the successful
sacrifice of Guts and Casca would create a ‘complete’ being with Femto’s
power yet which represents an ultimate equilibrium of these aspects.

Think Nietzsch’s ubermensch and you are there.  

Whether
this being would just be another tool of the Idea of Evil or whether
the Idea of Evil would want to use this being to bring about what it
sees as the perfect world either through using the being to destroy
itself and and let the being take its place as the master of fate or
some other method such as to seed it in the minds of all of humanity.

With
this in mind, Femto’s ‘defeat’ does not necessarily have to end with
him being physically slain but diminished and discriminate on a spiritual
and psychological level.

A stage the Idea of Evil may have already planned and accounted for.

About Gutsca in the near future

midnight-in-town:

midnight-in-town:

I was thinking about this lately and while I don’t think there is a lot of doubts when it comes to whether or not Casca will regain her mind now, I really am unsure about the possibility of a happy Gutsca reunion once Casca will be “back”.

First of all, Casca getting her mind back certainly won’t mean she’ll be automatically okay with everything that happened (on the contrary, she’ll certainly need to cope with what she’ll remember in order to really get better), but in any case, the simple fact that Casca will be back again is such good news in itself that Miura-sensei could decide that it’s all his fans will get (this is Berserk we’re talking about after all, happiness never lasts for Guts ;_;). 

Second thing, the main reason making me doubt a happy Casca/Guts reunion is this…

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Since that’s exactly what happened, he let go of his obsession for revenge because making sure Casca was safe (back in vol22) was the most important to him and it reached such an extent that…

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… he even let Zodd go because getting on a ship to bring Casca to Skellig Island was more important.

Everything has been about protecting and curing Casca ever since Griffith’s rebirth so, let’s say Casca gets her mind back, if she and Guts also get happily reunited then why should Guts even decide to go after Griffith?

He’s changed a lot and he definitely knows that the world is going down the wrong path with Griffith as literally “humanity’s savior”, but then again, he’s always fought his own battles and life was so mean to him that fighting Griffith, not on his own terms or for his own revenge but for humanity’s survival, doesn’t sound like something Guts would do, especially if Casca is finally back and happy by his sides.

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So, ahem, while it pains me since I absolutely adore Guts and Casca together, I am not so sure about a happy reunion at the end of the current arc…
Or we might get a happy reunion but it won’t last because, all in all, Guts is the struggler and to keep struggling against Griffith’s and the fate he wants to impose over humanity, he needs to have a personal motivation to go against Griffith. 

I don’t think I also need to mention what happened during vol23 when Guts almost raped Casca, lost as he was back then, which is something they obviously need to talk about in order for both of them to heal (because the beast of darkness is still there, in Guts’ mind, so it could be an obstacle to the happy Gutsca reunion), but there is also what the Skull Knight said…

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…And since he’s right most of the time, I don’t see why this time it would be different when it comes to Casca’s own perspective about what she’s been through or what Griffith is up to.

Personally, I think the SK’s words might have to do with Guts and Casca’s son (as I once explained here)…

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…because I don’t think that Casca is ready to just accept Griffith’s death if that means losing her son at the same time (her son who might have been the most conscious thing she could understand and recognize in her life ever since the eclipse).

So, when it comes to a happy Guts/Casca reunion, the chances of it happening and lasting are, in my opinion, directly correlated to if somehow Guts can still have a big motivation to fight Griffith

(as in, facing Griffith would mean that it’s personal and not just because the world is going astray), while being happy with Casca by his side.

At the same time, one possibility is that Guts’ big motivation to fight Griffith could be the same as Casca’s and linked to their son (I mean their child, either as the demon infant or even if he’s the Moonlight child, saved them more than once and Guts can realize that easily), and in that case, we could still have Guts

with Casca by his side and motivated enough to go against Griffith, because next he’s going to make Griffith pay for what happened to his and Casca’s child. 

That’s either all or nothing anyway, as always with Berserk, but I guess we will have to maybe know about who/what the Moonlight child is first, in case Guts and Casca are to really fight Griffith over their child.

Just some ideas, feel free to leave yours 🙂

@harmlesscitizen said:

it won’t be a pleasant reunion, that much is guaranteed. the only thing that remains to be seen is how long and to what extent.

in any case, guts might not pursue griffith for purely ethical reasons, but casca–being the most moral of the three of them–might. as in, she might become griffith’s leadership foil as the commander of an army that opposes him. would certainly be a fitting character arc. regardless i’m willing to bet  she’s going to be the one to drive the plot forward now. i mean, she better, after 20 years decommissioned.

Thanks for your input! And I definitely agree about Casca still having a big role to play and becoming the leader of an army that would oppose Griffith’s, thanks to possible foreshadowing by both Judeau during the eclipse but also Rickert in vol 38.

The thing is, Casca possibly becoming an army leader is the main reason I am considering that she and Guts might not go their separate way after she’s back (unless Guts willingly separates himself from the rest of the crew), which is partly why I think a happy reunion will probably not take place immediately, seeing as they’ve got important things to discuss and deal with. 

But at the same time Casca becoming an army leader only to get revenge for herself or her previous comrades isn’t something I see her do, just like I just don’t see Guts following her around without a personal goal in mind, so then again, while I agree that Casca might (and should!) become a driving force, there is probably something else to consider, which is why I mentioned their son, since he’s a direct plot point leading to Griffith. 

@harmlesscitizen said:

yeah. my theory is that if she DID end up raising an army, guts and casca might reconcile through the fact that guts would willingly and gladly follow her as her “sword.” i don’t think she would oppose griffith out of vengeance, but because it’s right. that being said, this hinges on the idea that she will want to pursue griffith in any capacity, which may not be the case outside her wanting to retrieve her child. but the plot’s got to resolve itself somehow.

Same, I think they might need time since both of them have to deal not only with what they’ve been through on their own but also together, and Casca as a leader again fits both with her character and with the way the plot is going in my opinion too. 🙂

About Casca fighting Griffith though, I didn’t mean it as “revenge” (just as her trying to save her son) but I don’t see her only fighting him because it’s right either. I mean, just like Guts, Casca would need a good motivation to do anything against Griffith when she might be beyond scared of him now, and so that’s why her son might do the trick, because he was the most important thing and probably the only reason sometimes she would be more conscious of her surroundings during the last 3-4 years. 

She went through more than anyone else in the whole story (besides Guts) because of Griffith after all, so acting as the world savior because it’s right wouldn’t suit her imo, not after everything that happened.

About Gutsca in the near future

I was thinking about this lately and while I don’t think there is a lot of doubts when it comes to whether or not Casca will regain her mind now, I really am unsure about the possibility of a happy Gutsca reunion once Casca will be “back”.

First of all, Casca getting her mind back certainly won’t mean she’ll be automatically okay with everything that happened (on the contrary, she’ll certainly need to cope with what she’ll remember in order to really get better), but in any case, the simple fact that Casca will be back again is such good news in itself that Miura-sensei could decide that it’s all his fans will get (this is Berserk we’re talking about after all, happiness never lasts for Guts ;_;). 

Second thing, the main reason making me doubt a happy Casca/Guts reunion is this…

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Since that’s exactly what happened, he let go of his obsession for revenge because making sure Casca was safe (back in vol22) was the most important to him and it reached such an extent that…

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… he even let Zodd go because getting on a ship to bring Casca to Skellig Island was more important.

Everything has been about protecting and curing Casca ever since Griffith’s rebirth so, let’s say Casca gets her mind back, if she and Guts also get happily reunited then why should Guts even decide to go after Griffith?

He’s changed a lot and he definitely knows that the world is going down the wrong path with Griffith as literally “humanity’s savior”, but then again, he’s always fought his own battles and life was so mean to him that fighting Griffith, not on his own terms or for his own revenge but for humanity’s survival, doesn’t sound like something Guts would do, especially if Casca is finally back and happy by his sides.

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So, ahem, while it pains me since I absolutely adore Guts and Casca together, I am not so sure about a happy reunion at the end of the current arc…
Or we might get a happy reunion but it won’t last because, all in all, Guts is the struggler and to keep struggling against Griffith’s and the fate he wants to impose over humanity, he needs to have a personal motivation to go against Griffith. 

I don’t think I also need to mention what happened during vol23 when Guts almost raped Casca, lost as he was back then, which is something they obviously need to talk about in order for both of them to heal (because the beast of darkness is still there, in Guts’ mind, so it could be an obstacle to the happy Gutsca reunion), but there is also what the Skull Knight said…

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…And since he’s right most of the time, I don’t see why this time it would be different when it comes to Casca’s own perspective about what she’s been through or what Griffith is up to.

Personally, I think the SK’s words might have to do with Guts and Casca’s son (as I once explained here)…

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…because I don’t think that Casca is ready to just accept Griffith’s death if that means losing her son at the same time (her son who might have been the most conscious thing she could understand and recognize in her life ever since the eclipse).

So, when it comes to a happy Guts/Casca reunion, the chances of it happening and lasting are, in my opinion, directly correlated to if somehow Guts can still have a big motivation to fight Griffith

(as in, facing Griffith would mean that it’s personal and not just because the world is going astray), while being happy with Casca by his side.

At the same time, one possibility is that Guts’ big motivation to fight Griffith could be the same as Casca’s and linked to their son (I mean their child, either as the demon infant or even if he’s the Moonlight child, saved them more than once and Guts can realize that easily), and in that case, we could still have Guts

with Casca by his side and motivated enough to go against Griffith, because next he’s going to make Griffith pay for what happened to his and Casca’s child. 

That’s either all or nothing anyway, as always with Berserk, but I guess we will have to maybe know about who/what the Moonlight child is first, in case Guts and Casca are to really fight Griffith over their child.

Just some ideas, feel free to leave yours 🙂

I think this was the moment when I, as a fan, just absolutely fell in love with Casca, because she takes – literally! – the shirt off her back to help Guts out. And it’s not that she’s even particularly attracted to him yet at this point in the story (or at least, she never admitted to herself or anyone else), but she would do that for anyone. Any one of the Hawks – if she sees somebody hurting, she helps them; no matter what it costs to her personally. And you can just see in Guts’ face when she does that, that he’s just seeing her for the first time.

[…] So even though it’s not explicitly romantic, it’s got that undertone there. And you also see it as a contrast, because you’ve got here the two pairings – Griffith and Charlotte, and Guts and Casca. And you see that Griffith is talking about friendship and how he values people who are equal to him, which Charlotte just is not. At all. But he values her for what she can give to him, whereas Guts values Casca because of who she is. She doesn’t have much – a scrap of cloth – but what she does have, she gives freely, and that’s the sort of person she is.