midnight-in-town:

um, maybe I’m just reading way too much into this, but it’s interesting that there is such a strong focus on Kaneki’s right eye in ch178 as he’s falling further and further away from the light, when in the sewers just before V14…

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there was the suspicion of something having happened to his right eye (by @kingkishou and @dadneki).

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As @sentrakk​ pointed out here, we’ve come and gone full circle compared to V14 at the end of the first TG (another primary example being Irimi and Koma dying “again” or Kaneki taking action because he doesn’t want to be unable to do anything anymore), which is why I’m wondering…

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if this is really a random focus from Sensei’s part or not. 

Maybe it’s really supposed to be a meaningless detail or maybe not and in that case, we could get another chapter about Kaneki’s inner self, like TG ch140, which was

actually

the last we saw of him in TG?

Sorry not to have anything very conclusive but we’re roaming through a sea of doubt till next week. ://

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@sesshomarusoryuha Then I guess…

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Eto’s work is done? 

How fitting when Kaneki’s “new body” might partially be thanks to “her gift” from the Roze arc

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We’ll really have come and gone full circle in that case…

The Final Judgement

sentrakk:

The thrilling saga of my “why TG is not ending yet” theories continues as I try to prove why this is not a matter of Ishida rushing his story to a premature end and he has actually planned to end :re at chapter 179 for a long time as well as to have the resolution arc as a separate entity. There seems to be a common theme in these latest chapters that supports this.

These current events parallel the end of part 1 in several ways, we for example have Ui, Juuzou, Hirako and rest of the gang battling the Owl

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Kaneki going off on his own underground, because he’s tired of not being able to do anything

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On the way a friend of his sacrifices themselves so that Kaneki can keep going forward and they go missing in the process

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And he in a big underground area meets Arima and Furuta who he has to get past by using force. If Arima technically was the main villain of part 1, Furuta was that for :re, they are the obstacle Kaneki is meant to get past. 

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The main difference here is that while in part 1 Kaneki decided to die and succumbed to his flaws, here he is doing his best to live and move forward. Kaneki actually managed to learn this lesson and won thanks to it, his change in attitude highlighted by his discussion with Furuta. Kaneki never got past V14, but here he finally took one step closer to his goal and this is where the parallels end and he gets a happy ending, right?

There is a twist however, because Kaneki despite his pretty speeches about living has not yet reached the complete end of his journey and is instead still in the middle of Judgement, not the World. The biblical symbolism present is referencing the Book of Revelation, which happens to have an event called the Final Judgement. Also, in two poems Ishida has written in the past, the theme of judgement is present and those poems seem to match the current events rather than anything that has happened before. Judgement seems to be a recurring theme, which is important, because it is not the ending point of the journey, those V14 parallels I talked about just now will be relevant too.

Before anything else though, I’ll just roughly go through some of the Book of Revelation symbolism in the One Eyed King and Dragon arcs to get this started

In the beginning a scroll with 7 seals is presented to the Throne of God and it is declared that only the Lion of Judah, the Lamb, is worthy to open it. The Lamb was given praise and angels along with creatures from Heaven and Earth fell down before him.

I believe the Lamb in question is Kaneki who was given the role of the One Eyed King by Arima and Eto who represent God.

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Both Arima and Eto are like gods in the series, Arima even has the nickname God of Death and is seen as one by the CCG and ghouls

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Eto especially has a lot of biblical symbolism associated with her, for example the instance of her talking about Genesis with Karren and wanting to become her god. If Arima is the one who ultimately made Kaneki become the One Eyed King during Cochlea arc, Eto did most of her part of the job back in Tsukiyama Extermination arc by awakening his memories using Karren. The biblical symbolism with Karren and Eto becoming her god is what she tried to do to Kaneki as well

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Both Arima and Eto were basically in the position of a God for Kaneki, Kaneki even was like a son to Arima (plus Eto wanted Kaneki to become her child) and has some Jesus symbolism associated with him. For instance him being stuck in the Dragon and being in coma lasted pretty much exactly three days before he woke up and was reunited with his loved ones.

Kaneki is also associated with goats a lot, with the book Black Goat’s Egg and the fact that he even named his organization Goat after becoming the One Eyed King, therefore it’s fitting that he is also the Lamb.

His role as the One Eyed King can be considered the scroll since once all of the 7 seals are opened, the Apocalypse begins, just like how Kaneki’s time as the One Eyed King only led to ruin, destruction and loss of lives. Even if Kaneki technically failed as a King, the outcome still happens to fit with Eto and Arima’s ideas of what the world will look like in the future. For Arima:

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And Eto’s world that is yet to come

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It is just around the corner though since once the Apocalypse is over, the old Earth and Heaven are replaced and there’s a new order of things in the world. What the story is heading towards is in fact quite literally a factory reset, but I’ll get to that more in detail later. What matters is that when Kaneki was given the scroll, it led to what it was supposed to lead to, the Apocalypse.

The six seals of the scrolls are undone and there was a great earthquake, the sun became black, every mountain, island were moved out of their places etc. Mankind hides from the one who sits on the throne and the wrath of the Lamb. The seventh seal is then broken, followed by half an hour of silence and destruction that devastates the Earth.

Typical apocalyptic events occur and this is represented in the story. The way the borders of the pages became black during Kaneki’s time as the Dragon might represent the sun becoming black, mountains and islands being moved out of their places is the same as all the buildings being devastated and there was an earthquake as Kaneki became the Dragon. Most notable one is chapter 145, which has no dialogue as it most likely represents the silence. Once the seventh seal is broken, numerous different kinds of devastating events occur that kill a huge chunk of humanity, but one particular thing Ishida seems to reference a lot is the bottomless pit.

As the star opens the bottomless pit, smoke rises from the Abyss like smoke from a gigantic furnace darkening the sun and the air. From the smoke locusts come out who are commanded not to harm anyone or anything except for people who were not given the “seal of God” on their foreheads. Locusts were commanded by the Abaddon, the angel of the Abyss who many interpret to be Satan himself.

This is a reference to the oviduct that houses Rize in the 19th ward since the place where she’s situated at is told to be a huge cave that seems pretty bottomless as Kaneki peers down it.

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Furuta also has the key to the place where she resides before being interrupted by Kaneki. The bottomless pit is actually the place closest to Hell and Underworld where the Dragon is eventually banished to for 1000 years.This works since the Dragon present in the Book of Revelation is actually Rize rather Kaneki since he was just a tool Furuta used to turn Rize into her current form

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Rize also represents Satan who commands the locusts as she is the one creating them and has St. Peter’s cross on her forehead. The Dragon in general is meant to represent Satan/Devil in the Book of Revelation.

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The smoke rising from the pit is the poison that infects people with ROS and blackens the sky and the locusts are the kagune monsters that attack everyone and spread the disease in the process.

Since Rize is the true Dragon, Kaneki and his Dragon form represents the Beast emerging from the sea.

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The sea being the sea of corpses from Kaneki’s mind where all the people he killed during his rampage went, the place by the Torii gates in his mind where he talked with Rize 

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It’s also noted that the Beast has a fatal wound, which they had miraculously healed, Kaneki too managed to heal his grave wounds and stop his aging by becoming the Beast.

There is also a second beast that emerges from the Earth known as the False Prophet. He exercises authority on the previous beast’s behalf and caused miraculous signs that cause people to follow the Beast. He is also connected to the Dragon.

The False Prophet is Furuta since while in the Book Revelation they would be the two Beasts, in TG they are the two kings that are very similar to each other. Kaneki’s Dragon form was also technically Furuta’s ally and it was what he called it himself too. People worshiping the Beasts was seen soon after Itori, who was working with Furuta, tried to manipulate the people from Goat.

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While it wasn’t during the actual Apocalypse, we also saw the huge cult like following Kaneki had as well as the fact that Furuta himself was quite popular himself and even had a fan club.

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The Beasts were good at making people follow them and worship them. There are probably some other references too, but these are just some of the bigger ones I noticed. What this all seems to be leading up to is the highlight and climax of the Book of Revelation, the Final Judgement.

Jesus finally returns to Earth, which the Beast and False Prophet try to fight with armies of their own before they are defeated. The Beast and the False Prophet are cast into the lake of fire while the Dragon is imprisoned in the bottomless pit for 1000 years. The Dragon is freed after 1000 years, tries to deceive all nations in four corners of the Earth and gathers people to fight the God, but is eventually defeated and cast into the lake of fire as well. The wicked dead and all of those who died during the thousand-year reign of Jesus are resurrected and judged. A new Heaven and new Earth replace the old ones and there is no more death or suffering as the old order of things has passed away.

Kaneki’s Dragon form, the Beast, has been defeated and while he was stuck there, he technically was working with Furuta, the False Prophet. And like I explained before, Kaneki has Jesus symbolism associated with him so he also takes the role of the one who fights and defeats the False Prophet, leading to both of the Beasts being taken down in the end. Rize the Dragon meanwhile is imprisoned in the bottomless pit, which was where all the smoke and locusts previously came from. Kaneki now has been imprisoned in the bottomless pit with Rize and is going to be stuck there for some time, which is going to represent the 1000 years of peace before he comes out with Rize and a new conflict arises. Kaneki caused the Dragon to be stopped so he as the Jesus is the one who allowed this period of peace to exist, which of course is followed by the Final Judgement after those 1000 years of imprisonment.

Kaneki also seems to take the role of archangel Gabriel, who resurrects the dead in the Judgement tarot card and is one of the angels that causes the Apocalypse to happen.

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His appearance is like that of an angel with wings and crosses with a white color scheme. Chapter 164, where he gets his angelic appearance, is even called “The White One”. Archangel Gabriel blowing his horn on the Judgement tarot card is the thing that makes the dead rise from their graves and in the Book of Revelation a trumpet blast is said to proceed the resurrection of the dead. On the card is depicted a sea where caskets float and this sea of corpses is a recurring motif with Kaneki. There has been plenty of foreshadowing and teasing in the story about bringing back the dead, but we have yet to see any kind of payoff for it. Furuta mentions this being possible, but the Beast, Kaneki’s Dragon form, of course is not capable of doing it.

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As the dead are resurrected, the old Heaven and Earth are replaced and like I mentioned before, it is essentially a factory reset. The factory reset that Eto wanted to see and who coincidentally happens to have returned just a few chapters ago even if that would be kind of pointless if there’s nothing left for her character to do in these final chapters. Arima is back too in a way, in spirit at least, during CCG’s fight with the Owl (Oh, and Hairu, the prime candidate to be resurrected is there too)

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The Judgement symbolism carries over to Kaneki’s personal character development as well since with Fool’s Journey he is not at the World yet despite all his revelations, he is still at the Judgement.

The Judgement card calls for a period of reflection and self-evaluation. Through meditation or quiet reflection, you may come to a point of deep understanding about the common themes throughout your life and what you can do or change to avoid these situations in the future.

The Judgement card suggests that you have reviewed and evaluated your past experiences and have learned from them. All the pieces of the puzzle of your life are finally coming together to form one, integrated picture of your life story. This integration has healed any deep wounds and you are now in a position to put the past behind you. Your memories no longer haunt you, and you are able to understand and value what has happened to you and what it has taught you about life.

This is exactly what Kaneki talks to Furuta about, he has had his moment of self reflection and found peace with has past and where he is right now. He has had time to think about things and learn from his old mistakes, the past is no longer something that hurt him, but it is something that turned him into the person he is and gave him everything he has. He is completely content with it.

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Judgement is about finding absolution. Through a period of self-evaluation, you will feel cleansed of your ‘sins’, wrongdoings and mistakes, and you will finally be released of your guilt and sorrow about the past.

Kaneki also acknowledges the fact that everybody in this world hurts each other and finds absolution. Kaneki committed a grave sin by becoming the Dragon and killing half of Tokyo, but he doesn’t get stuck on it and moves forward, he is at peace with everything that happened

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You may even feel a calling – a personal conviction of what you are meant to do. If you are in a low period, in need of hope and absolution, Judgement can show you that renewal is at hand.

That doesn’t mean Kaneki is going to ignore all his wrongdoings and instead of just feeling guilty, he decides to take responsibility for his actions. This is Kaneki’s resolve to do something for the sake of people around him, him being tired of not being able to do anything and that resolve is not shaken even by Furuta as he moves forward towards his goal.

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The angel on the Judgement card also represents the Fool’s higher self calling them to rise up and fulfill their promise so Kaneki doesn’t just physically represent the angel in question.

You may be at a crossroads, aware that any decision that you make will bring about significant change. The choice can be an obvious one, or perhaps the only viable one. You know that this choice must be made and you are facing it with maturity and level-headedness.

He is making his choice despite being hesitant to kill Rize, because he believes this is what must be done to save everyone, even if it has its downsides

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Kaneki is at Judgement, but he has not reached the finish line yet. The World card is about reentering the world with a complete understanding and Kaneki at the moment is basically stuck in the Underworld and has to get out. The moment Kaneki emerges from the pit is the moment he has reached the World and is the moment he has to become more involved with the world around him. Kaneki is going through his trial of Judgement, but the end is not that near yet.

This finally gets us to the poems that Ishida has written that are pretty much about this event and these latest chapters. You can read it fully here.

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Interesting thing to note is that poem is divided into three sections. I’ve already talked enough about how the announcement about TG:re ending was handled in an extremely unusual way so I won’t get into that now, but one of those strange things was the three chapter countdown we got so suddenly. My theory is that the three chapter countdown for the climax of the story is meant to represent the Final Judgement and each of these sections describes one of the chapters. The first section should represent chapter 177 and is from Kaneki’s point of view.

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The end of the trial

All lies are being revealed.

All sins are being judged.

A reference to the Final Judgement and Judgement phase of the Fool’s Journey. Facing Rize is the end of the trial for Kaneki and Furuta was what started it.

The first thing that disappoints you is anger,

and if you’re sick of being mad, then it will try to kill you.

This bit is rather vague, but it seems to fit with Kaneki’s feelings toward the world and Rize. He is no longer mad at the world, but currently it and Rize too is trying to hurt him

A god that is willing to murder for atonement,

is no different than you people.

Kaneki is being put into the position of Jesus or an angel and is doing all this to take responsibility for his actions. Ultimately he is put into a situation where has to kill Rize to atone for his actions and in this chapter he even talks about how he is not special compared to everyone else.

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Next is a single leaf from a fig tree

that conceals a body without leaving a trace.

It carries through while it is still vivid.

In Garden, Adam and Eve covered their private parts with fig leaves after eating the forbidden apple and becoming ashamed of the fact that they were naked. Before that they were free of sin, but this event changed everything and when they were banished from the Garden. This is probably a reference to Rize who escaped from the Garden and started living irresponsibly and “in sin” until she was captured and ended up in the fate she currently is in.

As blood spills in that moment, you softly laugh.

Blood spills as Kaneki attacks Rize

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The ark is being swayed like a casket.

V called the Dragon their Ark

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It is swaying like a casket since both Kaneki and Ayato got trapped inside as it collapses and the V agents too are finally defeated and this is the end of their journey, the Ark only led to V’s doom

“It’s okay if a cute person catches your eye!”

And then I went blind.

God is resentful because of his lost eyesight.

This is a reference to Kaneki’s first meeting with Rize. He at first regretted catching Rize’s eye, but in chapter 176 came to terms with it and thought it was a good thing since it helped him meet all the important people in his life.

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It is in quotes though. Not only did Rize catch Kaneki’s eye, but Kaneki also caught Rize’s eye

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And she went blind thanks to it as it was what led to her capture by Furuta and her current cruel fate. The one who feels resentment about the event is Rize

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Because of your self-righteousness,

how many have had their blood spilled,

how many have suffocated in the depths of the sea?

Reference to Kaneki’s flaws what eventually caused him to fail and kill half of Tokyo and also perhaps a reference to events even before that where Kaneki caused the death of lots of people due to his flaws. This also happens to be a something Rize and Furuta to an extent share with him

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It is what Rize called Kaneki out on at the Torii gates, but as Kaneki tried to move forward, Rize stayed behind

The buildings are gravestones floating in the sea.

And as they creak, the crooked foundation

one day breaks with a quick snap.

If Tokyo is the sea where all the people Kaneki killed died, the buildings that were wrecked by his Dragon form in the process are the gravestones along with all the other oviducts, including the one Kaneki and Rize are in right now. It too breaks with a quick snap in this latest chapter

That is when you experience the dull figures with your eyes.

That is when you stack up the limbs of someone you love.

That is when you get tired and fall asleep.

It happens, so abruptly.

Submerging beneath the sea again.

Kaneki falls asleep inside the Dragon and submerges beneath the sea once again, this time unable to escape.

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Stacking up the limbs of someone you love could refer to Ayato since Kaneki was trying to look for him before he got stuck inside the Dragon or it could be referring something yet to come since it is talked about later in the poem.

People are bound to lose.

Our gradual burial at sea.

Everyone I know has died,

and I cry to the point of dying.

Before long, everyone became a pillar of salt

and it too, dissolved into the sea.

(3)

If the world ends for someone I know, then that’s okay.

The cradle swayed and disintegrated.

The sea filled up with salt and dried out.

A throat is punched with holes, and all the blood began to sing.

You will no longer be able to stop laughing.

When the world ends, the last person alive will truly think he is a villain.

It has been pointed out several times during these last chapters that everyone will eventually die

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Kaneki however was not bothered by it as he said he was going to always strive forward.

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This time it seems like he was the one to “die” while everybody else lives, a repeat of V14 despite the poem suggesting there being an inversion of Kaneki surviving while everyone else dies.

I already mentioned how Kaneki is connected to the resurrection of the dead when I talked about him being Gabriel of the Judgement tarot card and this is how it might happen. Furuta already talked about how the old Nagaraj shared some of his life force even if he probably killed more people than he gave life to.

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After, which he turned into stone.

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Perhaps the stone in question represents the salt pillars in the poem, the act of taking and giving life goes with the all of Judgement symbolism too. Kaneki eventually is going to be the key to resurrections according to all the symbolism I already talked about so perhaps now that Kaneki is separated from everyone else, he feels like he’s the only one left on Earth, feels like everybody he loves is dead. The V14 parallels I talked about still apply since this is the exact same thing that gave Kaneki amnesia. After his confrontation with Arima, he was stuck in a jail cell and wanted to reunite with everyone before being made to believe that they were all dead.

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Now too after his confrontation with Furuta, he ended up being imprisoned again separated from all his loved ones, just like now he is meant to stay away from them for “1000 years” before the Final Judgement can occur. After all a total destruction is needed until the Earth and Heavens can be reborn and it was said that those with Washuu kagune have the power to change the world, this being Rize and Kaneki’s kagune too

Maybe Furuta was right that it was all will be in vain, or maybe it’s just a brief obstacle to be overcome. The world being reborn would be a valid reason for Ishida to separate the final resolution into its own part rather than include it with :re, it would also give it the same feel as Part 1 had when it ended. I’ve also before talked about why it would be a valid reason to divide TG into three acts, the third one happening right after the climax.

There’s also another poem that Ishida released, the Phosphenes poem found here: (x) The art that came with it is interesting in particular, because the number in the corner is almost the same as 179, the supposed final chapter that I believe will be about Kaneki and Rize

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If behaving like a god is a sin,
even the act of creating life would be blasphemous. Wouldn’t doing this be mocking the gods?

The act of creating life is brought up again and as I previously pointed out, whatever Kaneki now does underground might lead to resurrections, creation of life that even Furuta talked about. The poem seems to be implying though that something even worse than creating life is being done.

Wanting to be judged, I entered the prison of my own free will.
I play around with sludge in a silent room.
“So you’ve come back again,”
I was being cursed at with a timberless voice.

That place was dazzlingly beautiful.

Again, Kaneki entering the bottomless pit to meet Rize can be considered his final rite of Judgement and that quote probably belongs to Rize as she meets Kaneki again after he left him at the Torii gates. Kaneki drowned in the sea like she hoped he would and they’re now reunited.

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The area formed from kagune is sludgy, but yet so beautiful as Rize herself looks like a godly being. It’s important to note that this meeting with Rize is the climax of his Judgement, the end of the trial as the previous poem said. Kaneki moved to Judgement after his meeting with Rize at the Torii gates and now he’s reunited with her at the sea of corpses and being tested to see if he can truly move on and reach the World, end of his journey.

I was starving to death, and then
from when I was gnawing on someone’s body,
that’s right,
from that moment, it all became strange.
There definitely have must have been poison in there.
Only beautiful merely to the eye, and
shit.

This reminds me of the myth of Persephone who was abducted to the Underworld (coincidentally this bottomless pit where Rize and Kaneki are right now is also near the Underworld/Hell) and ate some pomegranate seeds that forced her to stay there during winter months since she had eaten the food of the Underworld. Chapter 162 happened to be called “Holding a Pomegranate” and it was the chapter where Kaneki woke up after returning from the Torii gates where Rize is. The reverse happening now is fitting, especially now that the latest chapter talked about the poison Rize emitted.

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There’s a spider lily too, an ominous flower that typically bloom in graveyards and is associated with death. They grow in Hell and guide the dead to their next reincarnation. They specifically symbolize lost memory, abandonment and never meeting someone again.

I don’t want to put anything in my mouth, I don’t want to hear anything.
I don’t want to see anything,
anything at all.

The three wise monkeys are related to the sins we’ve committed and therefore fits with the theme of Judgement.

Place myself on a scale, along with the things being sold off,
along with the ripped-apart bodies given away in pieces,
along with playing by peeling off scabs, don’t, don’t.

Throw away everything you don’t need out the window.
It’s okay if you fall and die.
Until the very end, lend your ears to just the sounds fading away.

Once again this seems to be related to the previous poem and Kaneki losing people that matter to him and being left alone, the scale line in particular reminds me of chapter 140 of part 1.

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This was the last moment of self reflction for Kaneki before his end and with all the V14 parallels we will probably get this too since the inner monologue in chapter 177 was instead more meant to be a reference to Yoshimura’s words (x) I suspect the next and last chapter will be exclusively in Kaneki’s head, because of this and also because of the parallels to events 100 chapters ago. Latest chapters have all had a reference to something exactly 100 chapters ago, between 76 and 176 there was this moment with similar paneling and theme about living

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In chapter 77 we had Urie venturing and finding Torso, in chapter 177 we have Kaneki venturing underground while and finding Rize, both struggling on the way

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In chapter 78 we have Torso explaining his backstory and Mutsuki becoming sympathetic towards him despite all the awful things he’s done to them. Chapter ends with Mutsuki potentially about to meet their end in the hands of Torso after having been captured by them for a while

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In chapter 177 we have Kaneki feeling bad about killing Rize since he was always sympathetic towards her despite her originally trying to kill him and starting his tragedy, now Rize traps Kaneki and potentially is about to get him killed. The reason I mention this is, because chapter 79 is exclusively about Mutsuki, them being stuck inside their own head and realizing new things about themselves. A moment of self reflection and discovery just like what Kaneki went through in V14. Chapter ends on Mutsuki discovering something awful they’ve done while they were spaced out and start laughing like a maniac. 

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Sounds similar to the end of the last poem, doesn’t it?

A throat is punched with holes, and all the blood began to sing.

You will no longer be able to stop laughing.

When the world ends, the last person alive will truly think he is a villain.

This Phosphenes poem though finishes with this:

Hey, how many things did you get that you wanted?

Kaneki in the end found all the things he wanted, but…

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…the field is filled with our old friends, red spider lilies. 

We are once again going through a period of transition, Kaneki has “died” and his loved ones are left waiting. The manga will end, but soon a new part will be made that continues after a time skip. A new manga for a new world, which is fitting since this references the Book of Revelation. There will be “1000 years” of peace before the bottomless pit is opened and out comes the Dragon with Kaneki and a new conflict arises. It won’t last long though since it is easily stopped and soon after all the dead are resurrected and their sins are judged. This is what part 3 will be about and once Kaneki comes back, he’ll have completed his trial of Judgement and reach the end of his character arc. In the end the Judgement always leads to the World, which in both the Book of Revelation and the Fool’s Journey is a happy ending.

kingkishou:

kingkishou:

The Garden, Love, and Lost Days 

There was one important little slice of information on the first page of the most recent chapter that was so casually dropped that it could be easily missed– something I’ve been waiting for for a long time that confirms the overall atmosphere of the Sunlit Garden:

“Tsuneyoshi dotes on him more than any of the other illegitimate children”

I think we can gather from this alone that the children in the Garden were treated well, with affection and care from their father. There was structure and playtime, a beautiful location where individual activities were encouraged (more than one has listen “drawing” as a favorite hobby), and an overall feeling of love. Their childhoods were full of “halcyon days”, as Hairu put it in the light novel, Quest.

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Now, to clarify, I want to do my best to convey something about expressing love in Japanese culture that differs somewhat from how many of us understand it in the West. Put simply, people don’t really say “I love you” with the same sort of flexibility that we do in English. There are exceptions of course, but generally speaking, it isn’t something that’s thrown around.

There is a literal translation which you might’ve heard in songs or seen on television before, and that’s aishiteru. You can say the ambiguous suki (“like”) or daisuki (“really like”, which is a little closer), but overall “aishiteru” is something often viewed as pretty friggen dramatic when said in real life. As I’ve heard it put by various Japanese bloggers on the subject, “it something you’d say on your wedding day” or “you’d say it to your grandma on her deathbed”. In certain situations, it can even come off as creepy or stalkerish when said to the wrong person. 

I wanted to take the opportunity to introduce this idea, not only in regards to the Garden, but in Tokyo Ghoul as a whole, since I’ve read time and again that “x-person doesn’t really love y-person because they didn’t say it or show it [in a way that’s familiar with my culture]”. That’s understandable, but absurd once you realize that not all cultures express love in the same way.

So, with not explicitly stating “I love you!!” in big neon letters kept in mind, there’s also a social concept in Japan called omoiyari, which translates loosely to having empathy, sympathy, consideration, and understanding towards others. Having a lot of omoiyari is generally a good thing, and showing it is paramount to healthy community. Omoiyari is even more important in your personal relationships, as it’s understood inherently through actions that there’s love between two people or a family, and not simply by expressing it verbally.

We have similar concepts in the West, but it’s something that isn’t as intrinsic or deep-seated in our culture.

***side note, just to reiterate: people do say “I love you” and “I love him/her/they”, it’s just that where’s typically a good deal more weight to it than it does in the West, where we say “I love [ice cream, anime, cats, etc]”. It’s just that the word itself is a little more flexible in English, as it can carry different connotations.   


Anyway, the reason I want to talk about this in terms of the Garden is because I’m hesitant to say that Tsuneyoshi didn’t genuinely love the women and children he tended to in the Garden. 

I think he did love them. That’s evident in the way that Yoshitoki affectionately behaved towards his father, and it’s evident in the way that Yoshitoki vied for closeness with Matsuri. It was shown through the books Arima picked out to give Haise, and how Haise regularly cooked for the Quinx. These are learned feelings and actions of people who understand love, and who know how to give it. 

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Tsuneyoshi’s love wasn’t shown on paper through hugs and kisses, but symbolically through images of big bright floral fields and the mention of his “doting” alone.

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But! Obviously there were problems that arose from that Tsuneyoshi’s particular brand of love. Arima mentioned that he did express favoritism, and Furuta flippantly suggested that Tsuneyoshi “probably doesn’t even remember my face”, indicating that they grew distant as his actual purpose as a member of V caused a rift.

And that’s where things get really muddy. Tsuneyoshi might’ve loved his kids when they were little, but he isn’t exactly getting Dad of the Year Award. He was running an empire after all, and sometimes you’re just shitty and want to put your pride and power and money ahead of the people you created with the intention to use as tools. 

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He loves his kids, but will exploit the living fuck out of them for a little cash. Like Toddlers and Tiaras but with more ghouls.

Either way, it makes sense that so many of the kids like Arima, Hairu, and Furuta would find themselves stuck trying to fill the void as adults. As their already-large families continued to grow, and the chasm between themselves and the love that they knew as children became wider and wider, their individual responses of despondence or anger or cries for attention came as absolutely no surprise.

Arima, a bright, thoughtful kid described as “gentle” by the narrator in Quest, became cold and detached as his peers and ghouls alike began to use words like “monster” and “nihilist” to describe him– words he learned to agree with.

Hairu was sweet and well-meaning even in adulthood, but she suffered from a nostalgia that left her longing for the old Arima to return to her, along with all the beautiful memories she had of them in the Garden. Even she misunderstood who he became, and openly admitted to competing against her peers by killing more ghouls for his approval. That was the last thing he wanted, but she died thinking of him nonetheless. 

Furuta, a “timid” boy who played with girls and flowers, learned to slap a smile on and deflect his pain with boisterous comedy. He would get attention– good or bad– by any means possible. Love was something he could force with enough torque, and everything became a game as he grew to believe that nothing mattered anyway. 

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To wrap up, I wouldn’t go as far as saying it was all sunshine and rainbows. Each and every one of the kids were trained with the same barrage as the last. Innocent sparring could have started when they were young, but it was clear that they were subjected to higher and harsher standards as they got older. Furuta’s manic fighting style immediately reminded me of the way Kaiko tormented Yusa, you know? That’s not something someone learns solely on the field.

As a matter of fact, maybe it wasn’t sunshine and rainbows at all. Maybe Tsuneyoshi really didn’t give a fuck. Maybe it was just an illusion of love that strung the kids along and fooled them into working harder for it’s return when the curtain finally fell on their Garden days. 

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Or maybe it wasn’t so black-and-white.

Even so, in the end, the Garden kids all became people living to make up for what they lost. They wanted someone to praise them, to think about them, and to understand them. They wanted love– some believing they no longer deserved it– and spent their fleeting days trying to feel it for just a little while longer.

Addendum: 

I also meant to highlight and underline Arima’s stone-cold truth: that even though Furuta was loved, he was only on the highest rung on the lowest ladder. All of the Garden kids must have been made painfully aware at some point that they were essentially disposable, and that their beautiful memories of the Garden would be tainted forever by the fact that they weren’t worth true and unyielding love in the eyes of the pure Washuu family.

Even if Tsuneyoshi loved the half-human kids, there would always be a barrier that kept it from being good enough. 

About Furuta’s goal

So I was wondering about this:

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And I can’t help but wonder if the reason Furuta himself is seeking “super peace” might not be because of how the Washuu family was extremely anti-ghoul, even regarding its own blood. 

I mean, you’ve got what Arima said…

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what Rize (?) said…

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what Kanou said…

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Even Arima’s wish was apparently a society primarily made of ghouls, which so far seems to be what “super peace” was described to be, so maybe it’s all about the irony that V wanted to throw back to the main Washuu family’s face (even if only Matsuri remains)?

The Washuu family were ghouls (kakuja from birth even), but at some point within the last 100 years for a reason yet unknown, they tried to become more human, so how about “the inferior bred” (the sunlit garden++) changes the rules and make ghouls at the center of society instead (as some kind of pay back for how badly they were treated)?

That could also explain why the Clowns are helping him:

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Just pondering about some stuff :3

midnight-in-town:

Okay so, old thought using two different translations, and obviously I might be reading way too much into this, but I find it interesting that flashback!Uta seemed to have been discovering that the “No face” mask/identity was well-known from the CCG back when he was already leading the 4th ward.

I mean, he didn’t even know Arima when the guy was already a legend after defeating Owl…

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and also…

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he didn’t seem to know why he was so strong. Of course, he could just be bullshitting us and Yomo, but you know, listening to his flashback…

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it’s as if he… just popped up one day from wherever he was being kept before (since I still think he’s the most likely candidate to have the biggest link to the One Eyed Washuu) and he had to learn everything as it came to him. 

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you know, maybe flashback/young!Uta is to the One Eyed Washuu what Sasaki was to Kaneki?

Because the similarities between Uta and the One Eyed Washuu are real:

And besides, you know how the current situation is similar to the one 100 years ago, because Furuta got inspired by what happened with the Nagaraj? 

Well, we know that the dragon situation helped Kaneki, as well as the half-humans from V, to overcome their aging problem, so I’m not exactly certain but maybe all that happened 100 years made the One Eyed Washuu “younger” somehow.

Anyway, whatever happened, he possibly was held in captivity by the Washuus/the CCG/V for a long while, which could be why (as a parallel to Haise)

he initially had no memory of being the One Eyed Washuu or about his past. This could also explain why his name is simply Uta: he chose a new identity for himself when he got his reboot, just like Haise did.

I also don’t know how he escaped from V/the Washuus but maybe

So then, Uta found himself leading the 4th ward because he was the strongest around and because he had no idea as to what else to do with his life, but slowly he started getting all of his memory back, the way it happened for Kaneki…

…which would be when, I guess, he started tattooing his body with a lot of extremely significant patterns, that are meaningful regarding the situation 100 years ago but also the current one (since, again, there is a parallel).

Finally, Kaneki as a character does have a lot of parallel with Uta, especially if Uta also used to be the OEK as the One Eyed Washuu, which is why I guess Uta always referred to him as a very special customer (even back as Haise)…

…because he must have seen these parallels as well. 

Honestly, I think Uta might have gotten sick of leading the 4th ward for a reason related to his possible past as the One Eyed Washuu & one OEK of the timeline… 

…which is literally similar to Kaneki never wanting to become the OEK but doing so anyway, because he had no other reason to live on when Arima & Eto asked.

TL;DR I just wanted to point out the following parallels:

  • 100 years ago, the One Eyed Washuu was defeated by the old CCG and “was driven underground”. 

We don’t know what happened afterwards, but maybe the old CCG or the Washuus managed to get his body back and held onto him for years.

But isn’t it interesting that, in the Anteiku raid arc at the end of TG’s first part, Kaneki lost against the CCG (Amon++) and was driven underground too, facing Arima at V14, being defeated and taken by the CCG to become Sasaki Haise?

  • After escaping from where he was kept (?), “young”!Uta was tasked with leading the 4th ward because he was the strongest around, but this led to a conflict with Arima and the CCG almost destroying the place: 

Uta dropped the leader role after the fiasco though, which was 200% fine with him anyway, because he was enjoying working as a mask maker way more. 

But doesn’t this remind anyone of Kaneki becoming the OEK as soon as Haise remembered everything, because he was the strongest around, but this leading to a series of misfortunate events too, because Kaneki sucked as the OEK since he never wanted that role?

I’m just saying: Kaneki became the OEK, which ultimately led to a remake of what happened 100 years ago with the Nagaraj and, at the same time, Kaneki and Uta both sucked as leaders, but that’s because both were given roles that they never really wanted => that’s some real link between these two for me. 

  • Bonus: Uta’s reaction to this?

And this is super funny because if Uta really was the One Eyed Washuu, he got a second chance at life, even after fucking things up 100 years ago and with the 4th ward: now he does what he likes, which is being a mask maker and just clowning around with his old pals…

because he’s always been “quite the reprobate and that’s why [he] wants to stay in the thick of it” (from :Re ch116).
Kinda reminiscing of Kaneki hopefully getting the future and family that he desired as long as he can find a way to solve the current crisis and despite failing terribly as the OEK, no? 

Okay so, old thought using two different translations, and obviously I might be reading way too much into this, but I find it interesting that flashback!Uta seemed to have been discovering that the “No face” mask/identity was well-known from the CCG back when he was already leading the 4th ward.

I mean, he didn’t even know Arima when the guy was already a legend after defeating Owl…

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and also…

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he didn’t seem to know why he was so strong. Of course, he could just be bullshitting us and Yomo, but you know, listening to his flashback…

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it’s as if he… just popped up one day from wherever he was being kept before (since I still think he’s the most likely candidate to have the biggest link to the One Eyed Washuu) and he had to learn everything as it came to him. 

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Okay so we’re all convinced that Narukami is from Hikari but, like you said, it was never technically confirmed. Related question though: if that’s the case, do you think Hikari was farmed to make T-Human (and maybe other quinque) or do you think it’s possible that the kakuhou used for it came from another member of the Yomo familly (like the parents or two brothers that were killed)?

silverbulletsama:

Actually this is mainly the reason why I would like the manga to finally discuss this in details – even though I totally understand that there are more important priorities for the current events.

We’ve seen the CCG develop new Arata armors and this is why a huge chunk of the fandom is hoping that Arata is still alive and that the “farming process” process requires that the ghoul remains alive. 

I doubt that there are other members from the Yomo family that will be introduced, this is why I think, if Narukami is really made from Hikari, then T-Human is also made from her. Whether or not its from her preserved kakuhou or from her being alive, I am still not really sure… and I am dying to know.

I discussed this previously with Uno, albeit in the context of a different subject, but human cells can be maintained in culture for a long time. The same applies for human biopsies. So this can easily be extended to ghoul cells. In my previous project, I had many patients and I received biopsies from them that I used to grow in culture and get cells from them. The cells are maintained in special incubators where temperature and oxygen/carbon dioxide conditions are adequate, and they are soaked with nutritious media (that is changed every 2 days). When the bottles of cells become dense, we just transfer the cells into new containers and let them grow more, over and over again.

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The problem with this approach is that eventually the cells will accumulate mutations or will die, or they wont behave as they used to be (for complex reasons)… this is why all research projects make use of immortalized cells (cells that wont stop dividing, and will not die, and are kinda resistant to changes). The way to immortalize cells is by making them cancerous. Even with this process though, it is important to get a new batch of cells every now and then (again to avoid accumulation of mutations). The way to do so is to store fresh batches of cells in liquid nitrogen (-196 degrees Celsius, or -321 degrees Fahrenheit) and thaw one tube whenever the old cells in culture are no longer good.
Ishida-sensei has been dropping countless of hints that rc cells behave like cancer cells, so perhaps the immortalization step (making rc cells cancerous) is not done.

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tl;dr if CCG wants to harvest rc cells from a ghoul to make new quinques after the ghoul’s death; they can through the following:

1- Extract the kakuhou or a biopsy of it (or multiple biopsies), preferably before the ghoul dies, or instantly after their death.
2- Maintain the biopsy in culture (critical step bcz biopsies are very difficult to grow and stay alive in culture, and require few weeks to start giving cells).
3- Make aliquots of the first batch of cells that the biopsy yields (called passage 0/1) and freeze those that are needed for later use by adding glycerol and putting the tubes in liquid nitrogen.
4-Use the non-frozen cells to make more cells, by maintaining the cell line in culture.
5- Use the cells for quinque formation.
6- Repeat the process.
Optional Step: Immortalize the first batch of cells by making them cancerous, if the rc cells are not already behaving as such.

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Liquid Nitrogen Tank: the cells stored in special tubes to be frozen are put in the Pails and the Pails are immersed in the liquid nitrogen.

Fun Info: One of the most common, commercial, cell lines that is immortalized and used widely in cultures across the world is the HeLa Cell Line, that was derived from a Henrietta Lacks, a patient with cervical cancer, in 1951. This cell line is the oldest and most commonly used human immortalized cell line. You can buy this cell line for your own research use. This is how much this cell line was farmed and continued to be farmed for scientific interest. Amazing.

Keeping a ghoul alive and farming them though is a better way.

The other example we’ve seen of farming is during the Cochlea raid arc where members of Squad 0/S3 had quinques that looked like Ixa.

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