sorry for the closeup, but I just remembered thanks to Spooky-chan to mention this…
A while ago, I was wondering if the stitches weren’t about not letting a kagune/kakuja bursts out of Karren’s body (through the eyes and mouth, kinda like it happened to Saiko recently) since Eto literally injected her kagune into Karren.
That’d explain why she possibly stitched Tatara and Rio too, if she ever left them a gift like she did with Kaneki (whose right hand wasn’t the same until the last chapter). Besides, can you see the mini eyes beneath the stitches?
That’s why despite thinking of Eto at first, I totally agree now that this poor thing
is most likely Karren. ;_;
EDIT:
Sorry Anon-chan, but please look above!
Of course, it’s possible that Donato and Uta brought Eto back from Cochlea since they were there (Eto was also my first guess once I saw this poor monster), buuuut I’m vouching more for Karren right now, for all the reasons stated above. :3
I hope it’s understandable, please have a nice day!
I SAW HER I SAW HER! SHE’S SO BEAUTIFUL, I CAN’T RESIST HER…
I MEAN THEY’RE ALL BEAUTIFUL REALLY and they’re going to be the death of me soon I’m sure, haaaaaaaaaah! (Ayato sure is right after them in terms of being a very handsome boy too, but I mean, we see him more often)
As for Hide, nah, thanks to the newest omake, we now know that this gesture means he’s thinking intently about something. :)))
Hereeeeeeeeeee! I wonder what this new mask is about, especially because it’s the first half-face mask we see him wearing.
means that Amon is gonna get wrecked for real but also that…
TAKIZAWA TIME IS NEXT!!!
Isn’t that right @hamliet and @linkspooky???? Our boy will finally be able to become the hero he wanted to be, by helping Amon realize that he will surely only be able to defeat Donato if he accepts to fight as the ghoul he became!!
I’M SO EXCITED!!! also I think Akira will definitely be a part of this, but I’m not sure yet of how though I’ve got a few ideas
Hi Anon! Nah, I wouldn’t call this a plot hole. You’re right, Seb did mention it in ch137…
buuut it totally went past our!Ciel’s head because he rather focused on what Seb said about how he “sacrificed his brother”:
In other words, Seb did mention it ahead but Ciel probably didn’t realize what the demon said because all he could think about was “what a horrible human being he was to have sacrificed his own brother’s soul”.
That’s why…
Seb’s friendly reminder came as a shock in ch138 instead, in my opinion.
Hi Anon! And actually, there is nothing to explain…
It was just Seb shape-shifting to find a human appearance that Ciel would like for his butler. 🙂
If you referring to the “3 Sebastian theory” though, it’s just a crack idea that was initially meant to mock the 2CT and all the rather visual hints that Sensei left for foreshadowing.
So no worries, there is only one Seb. It’s wayyyy more than enough. xD
Hello Anon and this is a good observation, but while I can’t be sure, I’m not really worried. 🙂
This is what I was explaining here and here: normally ROS is a human’s disease because they don’t have a kakuhou to regulate the oversecretion of Rc cells.
Knowing that, it does appear to be strange that Saiko got affected and Urie almost was too (since as Qs, they do have a kakuhou), so I don’t dismiss the idea that even ghouls might be endangered. However for now it makes more sense to think that the Qs were at risk simply because they’re still humans despite having an artificial kakuhou.
Besides, the whole plan seems to be about turning humans into ghouls…
so it would be logical for ghouls to still be okay, because their kakuhou is natural and thus their regulation abilities probably are more efficient than those of the Qs.
About Touka herself now, frankly I doubt that ch160 was enough to get her poisoned if that’s even possible since she’s a natural ghoul, first of all because she didn’t trigger any explosion (unlike Saiko and Urie did) and secondly, because even Urie who got more in contact than she did with those things will be okay according to Kimi.
I do agree with you though that these…
got a big focus in ch160 and so might be about more than exhaustion, especially since we know she’s been generally weakened lately due to eating human food for her baby, but still, her kakuhou should in theory be enough to deal with elevated Rc cells amount.
If anything, I was thinking this might be something that will turn out to be relevant for her baby instead as you also proposed, maybe, if just because it’s still a huge “?” on every aspect and will surely need to get addressed at some point.
This is 100% theoretical, but I proposed before that the only way for Hybrid Baby not to die in Touka’s womb…
would be if it were to develop a kakuhou and thus to be born as a natural OEG, following this concept:
We know Hybrid Baby at least has the gene for it thanks to Touka, so what’s left to trigger its kakuhou’s development (according to my long reasoning I explained in that link above) would be for the maternal environment to present a high Rc cells rates, so that Hybrid Baby will need to regulate those Rc cells and thus will develop a kakuhou in order to do so.
It’s like a mechanism of “up regulation” as long as you have the gene for it and I’m hoping that’s where Ishida is leading with this arc and future biological explanations, since we’ve seen with the recent chapters that some humans can develop a kakuhou if needed (that lady from the CCG in the previous chapter) but some others couldn’t (all those patients we saw with ROS disease).
So maybe Sensei intends to expand his explanation of kakuhou development in these humans-becoming-new-ghouls and make it relevant for Touka’s pregnancy, which would explain the focus on those veins on her hands as she was digging for Kaneki in ch160. Maybe. xD
TL;DR BECAUSE ACCHAN NEVER STOPS RAMBLING, three possibilities:
Touka will be 200% okay and the current crisis is irrelevant to her character because she has a kakuhou and thus is doing fine
in that case, those veins from ch160 were just to show how exhausted and desperate she was getting while trying to rescue Kaneki.
Touka might get affected because this crisis somehow also affects ghouls or because she’s weakened by all the human food she’s been eating lately
in that case, I’m sure both her and her baby will be alright eventually even if everyone will be scared for her sake in the meantime.
Touka will be 200% okay but the current crisis will turn out to be 200% relevant to her pregnancy
in that case, those veins could indeed have been about her getting in contact with what triggers oversecretion of RC cells in humans,
but this will only matter for her baby and most likely trigger its kakuhou development in order to regulate all these RC cells, thus making sure that it will safely be born as a natural OEG.
I hope it helps and that it’s understandable! Have a nice day Anon. 🙂
I guess the Qs are also at risk (as we saw with Saiko and even if they’ve got a kakuhou), probably because their transformation is artificial and as such they don’t have the same highly developed abilities to regulate an oversecretion of RC cells, compared to ghouls whose kakuhou is natural. 🙂
Of course, nothing is certain so take everything with a grain of salt, but that’s how I understand it for now!
Have a nice day Anon!
Hi again 🙂
The “poison” is in those clone thingies. So if you kill ‘em and they explode…
it’s how the poison is released, goes airborn and humans can get affected once they breathe it in because it leads to an oversecretion of RC cells inside their body.
Keep in mind that both humans and ghouls have Rc cells initially, ghouls have just wayyy more than humans, which is why they developed a kakuhou to regulate their elevated rates.
From there on, there are several possibilities once you breathe the poison in:
for a ghoul: well, they have their kakuhou, so they should be able to regulate that oversecretion of Rc cells and be just fine
for a human: either they have the potential to develop a kakuhou (and thus they will become a ghoul) or they don’t, probably because they lack the gene or another unknown parameter that conditions the kakuhou’s development (and in that case, it’s ROS disease).
For Saiko and Urie, the difference is that they do have a kakuhou (because they’re Qs) but because it’s artificial (and for maybe other unknown reasons), it’s probably not as efficient as a ghoul’s when it comes to dealing with that oversecretion, which is why Saiko got in such a bad state.
We only saw one explosion when Kaneki was still inside his Kakuja and it was the one Saiko triggered and which got only her to be affected.
I hope it’s clearer? Of course, this explanation is based on what we were told so far, it can still change with future chapters so take it with a grain of salt, as always. Have a nice day Anon!
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