Hey Anon! I watched the anime a few years ago and I’m in the process of rereading the manga from the beginning (currently I’m on ch139, I will catch up soon :D), so yup, I can definitely confirm that the anime follows the manga!
The anime covers ch1 to ch47 actually (with 24 episodes), but I will just say this one thing: it’s only my opinion, but I had a harder time with the anime’s pace than with the manga’s.
I remember being rather bored with the anime at first, because its first third is very slow-paced: don’t get me wrong, the content is the same as in the manga, but somehow the pace is different. I can’t be sure why, maybe it’s because the episodes always tried to stop at appropriate cliffhanger-y moments and so it kinda disrupted the pace of the first 8 episodes?
Anyway, that’s why I’d recommend reading the manga over watching the anime if you don’t have a preference, because I didn’t have the same pacing problem with the manga when I started rereading.
Besides, the anime in itself doesn’t bring much more besides the music score, while the manga’s art style is quite superb and the story flows nicely + the gags are funnier somehow (probably because it’s harder to convey them the same way when animated).
That being said, if you are interested in giving AnY a try and don’t want to read the manga, then by all means give a chance to the anime because it’s exactly the same story and still a good work of animation overall.
I may not have had the patience to catch up with the series regularly before but I will from now on, because it’s truly a good and interesting series, so whatever you choose between manga and anime, don’t hesitate to give it a go indeed!
I hope it answers your question, Anon! Have a nice weekend!
Not only do I think that Frances is very much happy and in love with Alexis so she wouldn’t be seeking another guy, but I am also of the opinion that…
she sees through Seb’s human disguise and thus knows he’s not human (can’t be sure she’d know he’s a demon though), which is why she’s always so harsh with him.
for now. Besides, on the account that apparently Seb looks a lot like Vincent on purpose (even if I don’t see it but ok), it would be totally weird to have her lusting after her bro’s doppelgänger so, really, nah on every aspect of this.
Sorry Anon! Feel free to ship them if that’s what you want to do, but don’t expect any basis for it in canon is all. :))
as an accomplice to the serial killings committed in the name of the blue star (real!Ciel) who Scotland Yard believes is our!Ciel for now.
Seb will most likely go down the same way too, as an accomplice of our!Ciel, just saying.
I’m not sure Bravat will be helpful to either our!Ciel or Seb though. Clearly he’s a fanatic…
…so going down for the sake of real!Ciel’s radiance and freedom could be something he’s quite proud of/okay with.
The only way for Bravat to somehow become useful would be if he believes that UT and real!Ciel are supposed to get him out of prison and they don’t, which is likely to happen since neither probably cares about him (he seems to be Ryan 2.0 as far as UT is concerned).
Until then though, I doubt even Seb will manage to scare him into talking considering that he already knows about Seb being a demon and he seemed not to give a damn. I could be wrong though. 🙂
TL;DR yes, prison for Bravat too, but either he’s not expecting to stay forever because UT and real!Ciel are supposed to get him back, or he’s going down happy because he’s been useful to his star lords (real!Ciel and whoever the rest of them are) and that’s all that matters to him.
Hi Anon, no worries your English is great! And actually I already explained here.
To make this simple: Amaimon is neutral in the big Order vs Illuminati conflict, he’s just helping Mephisto with some stuff because he owes him (most likely because of his current vessel)…
…but he doesn’t care about whose side ends up winning.
Meanwhile, this is his reaction to Shiemi:
and to Mephisto once he confronted him about finally realizing about Shiemi’s powers:
So Amaimon’s anger in the scene above is not related to Shiemi but to Mephisto: he’s mad that Mephisto didn’t tell him sooner about Shiemi + he’s most likely also mad about the fact that Mephisto definitely intends on making him choose a side in this conflict (”you have little free time left”), despite the fact that Amaimon considers himself neutral.
And what conclusion does this lead you to? Amaimon wanted to stay neutral but now that he has realized about Shiemi’s powers, he knows that he won’t be able to just be an observer => so whoever Shiemi is, she’s basically the chain now locking Amaimon on the Order’s side.
I’m pretty sure you’re aware of all the theories about Shiemi and Shemihaza and it’s actually not very surprising to imagine a link between them and Amaimon who’s the King of Earth, especially when Shemihaza’s symbol is…
and Shiemi used to mention something called “the Garden of Amahara”.
Both Shemihaza and Amaimon come from Gehenna, we don’t know what kind of link they might have, but it could be that they’re pals or linked in some ways. And if that’s the case, then Shiemi being related to Shemihaza (being their host or nephilim) would mean that Amaimon’d have to keep an eye on her (either because that’s important to him or because he has no choice in the matter).
So I really don’t think Amaimon is in to hurt Shiemi: he already kicked her during the fight against Yukio & Satan, so we know he should give 0 care and yet now he’s angry after realizing who she is. To me that implies he’s clearly going to (have to) change his way of behaving towards her, whatever the reason is.
Also, I have to say this: the current arc is rather complicated and the main trio Rin/Shiemi/Yukio got blasted into three different directions (Yukio & Illuminati, Rin & the past, Shiemi & the Grigori). That’s why, before they can all meet again, they’ll first need the help of other characters and we may end up with Amaimon being quite relevant to Shiemi’s personal arc before the others catch up.
I hope this makes sense, please read the post I linked to, it may have additional explanations! Have a nice day Anon. :))
Hey Anon! And yep, from the moment a demon who shape-shifted into idk how many animals…
can have intercourse with humans
then Shinigamis who originally are humans should be able to as well. 🙂
As for the “but they’re dead” part, well yeah, but we don’t know exactly what their condition is (I’ll elaborate below) and furthermore, they have primary needs like sleeping and eating so why not other needs?
It’s kinda illustrated by Grell having the hots for several guys so far or even Ronald with most women actually, so to me it seems Shinigamis can feel attraction towards humans, which means they can surely be aroused and seek physical intimacy as a result.
Being able to have sex =/= being able to have kids: that’s a different debate.
Just in case you were asking with this in mind though, I want to precise that personally I think it’s possible for Shinigamis to have kids (so for example, I believe that the UT = Cedric theory is a possibility) because the Shinigamis aren’t exactly “dead”, the way final death is meant to be in Kuroshitsuji.
A human being is defined by two parts: their cinematic record and their soul. When they die, the CR is stopped by Shinigamis and to remain in the body, while the soul is collected. That’s what it means to be dead in Kuroshitsuji.
Now, if you look at UT’s bizarre dolls that are basically undead: they have no soul (because it was collected when they died and UT can’t make one from scratch), but they have edited cinematic records which is what makes the corpse mistakenly think it’s still alive.
As for Shinigamis, well that’s the thing: we know they killed themselves so they should be dead…
but it seems they still have their soul and an unstopped cinematic record (otherwise how could they still move, think and feel?), in spite of their peculiar eyes or their ability to teleport, amongst other supernatural things.
Furthermore…
…clearly they can actually die for real again if they’re hit by a death scythe (a death scythe being used to stop a CR and collect the soul, which is why I think they still have both).
Becoming a Shinigami is a punishment to humans who took their own life so maybe they’re not exactly “dead”. Maybe, similarly to how some humans can be “judged worthy to keep on living” by Shinigamis when they’re fated to die, Shinigamis are special cases of “(not really) dead people”.
All that to say, if they’re not exactly dead, then why wouldn’t they be able to have kids? Don’t get me wrong, we know they have superiors who are most likely scaring the shit out of them and as such, rules to follow were mentioned like…
…because Shinigamis are supposed to be “neutral between Gods and humans”, meaning they’re not supposed to be meddling with humans and have kids with them (or with other Shinigamis I suppose).
As far as UT is concerned though, clearly he fails at being a Shinigami, so him having kids (the UT = Cedric theory) would just be one more broken rule to add to his record. No biggie.
TL;DR yes, Shinigamis can most likely have sex with humans and with other Shinigamis.
And from the moment they’re scared to die if stabbed by a death scythe, they might not be exactly dead the way other humans who don’t kill themselves are dead, so they might be able to have kids with humans or other Shinigamis, even though it is very probably 100% forbidden (since they are forbidden from meddling with life, death and humans).
I hope it answers your question Anon, sorry for the length! As with everything, it’s just my opinion, no one has to agree!
Have a nice day. :))
Hi Anon! Ah, I should have bet that I’d receive this question. xD
Moving on, honestly I don’t know and since Sensei said that she wouldn’t delve into Kuroverse’s demonology
indeed, I’m not sure we have anything to discuss this possibility. ://
The thing is, it’s easier to consider the idea between humans and Shinigamis because Shinigamis are initially humans + because there is the matter of the Phantomhive lineage…
And, without rambling about where it might come from (in my opinion it’s unrelated to whoever Cedric K. Ros is), it has to come from something (a curse?) or someone (an ancestor?) supernatural at the very least.
So the boundaries between humans and the supernatural side of Kuroverse are seemingly thin, but at least Shinigamis and humans are technically the same species, which makes it more legit if Sensei confirms that they can make kids.
When it comes to demons, it seems less likely, because demons can only take on a human appearance + it’s not like they hold humans in a very high regard. I mean, Sensei said before that Seb basically sees humans as insects (or food in Ciel’s case), so to seduce his preys (like Beast for example) to get what he wants (like information) is different from actually being able to reproduce.
Of course maybe not all demons are like him (about seeing humans as inferior), but since it’s likely we’ll never find out… The only way to be sure would be for Sensei to eventually mention it randomly. You know, like with curses…
…or even once Sensei explains what the Phantomhive lineage is all about later.
So, I’m sorry Anon, but I have no clue. Maybe, maybe not. As long as Sensei doesn’t hint at anything though, you’re free to consider what you want, just like for the debate about whether or not Shinigamis can have kids with humans!
Thanks for reading and have a nice day! :))
Hey Anon and nope! At least not in my opinion because, even if it turns out that Shinigamis and humans can make babies, that doesn’t confirm anything as far as Claudia and UT are concerned.
We know that UT apparently cared about Claudia and there is a good probability that there was actually a romantic side to it from his point of view, but we don’t know for sure + we can’t say anything about Claudia’s own feelings.
That’s why we need to know the Undertaker’s real name. Cedric K. Ros– was indicated
(in the Shinigami files)
to be Vincent’s father and Sensei confirmed before that he and Frances had the same parents, so what we need to know is if he and UT are the same person.
If Sensei ever says that UT is Cedric before saying anything about possible human + shinigami babies tho’, then it will confirm both ideas at the same time!
I hope this makes sense. Have a nice day Anon. :))
Hey Anon! And yep, from the moment a demon who shape-shifted into idk how many animals…
can have intercourse with humans
then Shinigamis who originally are humans should be able to as well. 🙂
As for the “but they’re dead” part, well yeah, but we don’t know exactly what their condition is (I’ll elaborate below) and furthermore, they have primary needs like sleeping and eating so why not other needs?
It’s kinda illustrated by Grell having the hots for several guys so far or even Ronald with most women actually, so to me it seems Shinigamis can feel attraction towards humans, which means they can surely be aroused and seek physical intimacy as a result.
Being able to have sex =/= being able to have kids: that’s a different debate.
Just in case you were asking with this in mind though, I want to precise that personally I think it’s possible for Shinigamis to have kids (so for example, I believe that the UT = Cedric theory is a possibility) because the Shinigamis aren’t exactly “dead”, the way final death is meant to be in Kuroshitsuji.
A human being is defined by two parts: their cinematic record and their soul. When they die, the CR is stopped by Shinigamis and to remain in the body, while the soul is collected. That’s what it means to be dead in Kuroshitsuji.
Now, if you look at UT’s bizarre dolls that are basically undead: they have no soul (because it was collected when they died and UT can’t make one from scratch), but they have edited cinematic records which is what makes the corpse mistakenly think it’s still alive.
As for Shinigamis, well that’s the thing: we know they killed themselves so they should be dead…
but it seems they still have their soul and an unstopped cinematic record (otherwise how could they still move, think and feel?), in spite of their peculiar eyes or their ability to teleport, amongst other supernatural things.
Furthermore…
…clearly they can actually die for real again if they’re hit by a death scythe (a death scythe being used to stop a CR and collect the soul, which is why I think they still have both).
Becoming a Shinigami is a punishment to humans who took their own life so maybe they’re not exactly “dead”. Maybe, similarly to how some humans can be “judged worthy to keep on living” by Shinigamis when they’re fated to die, Shinigamis are special cases of “(not really) dead people”.
All that to say, if they’re not exactly dead, then why wouldn’t they be able to have kids? Don’t get me wrong, we know they have superiors who are most likely scaring the shit out of them and as such, rules to follow were mentioned like…
…because Shinigamis are supposed to be “neutral between Gods and humans”, meaning they’re not supposed to be meddling with humans and have kids with them (or with other Shinigamis I suppose).
As far as UT is concerned though, clearly he fails at being a Shinigami, so him having kids (the UT = Cedric theory) would just be one more broken rule to add to his record. No biggie.
TL;DR yes, Shinigamis can most likely have sex with humans and with other Shinigamis.
And from the moment they’re scared to die if stabbed by a death scythe, they might not be exactly dead the way other humans who don’t kill themselves are dead, so they might be able to have kids with humans or other Shinigamis, even though it is very probably 100% forbidden (since they are forbidden from meddling with life, death and humans).
I hope it answers your question Anon, sorry for the length! As with everything, it’s just my opinion, no one has to agree!
Have a nice day. :))
An excellent question Anon. 🙂 But I think the answer is as simple as “because his scars aren’t the result of a death scythe”, so he’s still… well, not dead. xD
Since Shinigamis aren’t exactly humans anymore (their eyes that can see what human eyes can’t, the fact they can teleport, etc), it’s likely that they can die again for real only if they’re stabbed with a death scythe. As such, normal blades or guns shouldn’t work on them.
So in the case of UT’s scars, since Sensei confirmed that he apparently got them after his desertion, it most likely has nothing to do with a death scythe (otherwise you’re right, he would have died from his head not being on his shoulder anymore).
The ??? part about UT’s scars is that they’re literally everywhere on his body so it’s hard to be sure of how he could have gotten them. Hence the many theories:
he was tortured by humans after his desertion (somehow), who freaked out when they realized he wouldn’t die and that’s how he ended up with so many scars
it’s a symbolic representation of his link to the Phantomhive family (since they’re mostly represented by roses and thorns) and we’re not supposed to bother about how he got them
it’s a way for Sensei to introduce an equivalent to the “Thorns of death” from the second musical in the manga. To quote from the wiki: “The Thorns are contracted when a soul destined to die becomes vengeful and fight against the Grim Reapers that would reap it; it would manifest into the form of thorns, which will eventually suffocate the heart.”
Can’t say I have any clue to be honest Anon, except that I really doubt UT’s scars are the result of a death scythe, even if I could be totally wrong. :))
In my personal idea of a timeline about UT though, I tend to think it’s more likely to have happened around or after the time of Claudia’s death (for several reasons but it would be too long to explain now). I also think it’s fair to imagine that one day we’ll find out about how he got them and it will be… bloody to say the least. ://
I hope it answers your question! Thanks for reading and have a nice day :))
Hey Anon! And yep, from the moment a demon who shape-shifted into idk how many animals…
can have intercourse with humans
then Shinigamis who originally are humans should be able to as well. 🙂
As for the “but they’re dead” part, well yeah, but we don’t know exactly what their condition is (I’ll elaborate below) and furthermore, they have primary needs like sleeping and eating so why not other needs?
It’s kinda illustrated by Grell having the hots for several guys so far or even Ronald with most women actually, so to me it seems Shinigamis can feel attraction towards humans, which means they can surely be aroused and seek physical intimacy as a result.
Being able to have sex =/= being able to have kids: that’s a different debate.
Just in case you were asking with this in mind though, I want to precise that personally I think it’s possible for Shinigamis to have kids (so for example, I believe that the UT = Cedric theory is a possibility) because the Shinigamis aren’t exactly “dead”, the way final death is meant to be in Kuroshitsuji.
A human being is defined by two parts: their cinematic record and their soul. When they die, the CR is stopped by Shinigamis and to remain in the body, while the soul is collected. That’s what it means to be dead in Kuroshitsuji.
Now, if you look at UT’s bizarre dolls that are basically undead: they have no soul (because it was collected when they died and UT can’t make one from scratch), but they have edited cinematic records which is what makes the corpse mistakenly think it’s still alive.
As for Shinigamis, well that’s the thing: we know they killed themselves so they should be dead…
but it seems they still have their soul and an unstopped cinematic record (otherwise how could they still move, think and feel?), in spite of their peculiar eyes or their ability to teleport, amongst other supernatural things.
Furthermore…
…clearly they can actually die for real again if they’re hit by a death scythe (a death scythe being used to stop a CR and collect the soul, which is why I think they still have both).
Becoming a Shinigami is a punishment to humans who took their own life so maybe they’re not exactly “dead”. Maybe, similarly to how some humans can be “judged worthy to keep on living” by Shinigamis when they’re fated to die, Shinigamis are special cases of “(not really) dead people”.
All that to say, if they’re not exactly dead, then why wouldn’t they be able to have kids? Don’t get me wrong, we know they have superiors who are most likely scaring the shit out of them and as such, rules to follow were mentioned like…
…because Shinigamis are supposed to be “neutral between Gods and humans”, meaning they’re not supposed to be meddling with humans and have kids with them (or with other Shinigamis I suppose).
As far as UT is concerned though, clearly he fails at being a Shinigami, so him having kids (the UT = Cedric theory) would just be one more broken rule to add to his record. No biggie.
TL;DR yes, Shinigamis can most likely have sex with humans and with other Shinigamis.
And from the moment they’re scared to die if stabbed by a death scythe, they might not be exactly dead the way other humans who don’t kill themselves are dead, so they might be able to have kids with humans or other Shinigamis, even though it is very probably 100% forbidden (since they are forbidden from meddling with life, death and humans).
I hope it answers your question Anon, sorry for the length! As with everything, it’s just my opinion, no one has to agree!
Hey Anon! Yes, I have both read the novels (original content) and watched the anime because I absolutely love this series. :)) Here’s my tag for it.
Generally when a series is a popular, it’s for a good reason and Durarara isn’t an exception. So personally, I would truly recommend it for anyone who’s after novelty (it’s really one of a kind) and who doesn’t mind when the series appears too intricately twisted for a simple summary.
The complex part of it isn’t the plot, but rather the characters: Narita-sensei doesn’t write your conventional or typical characters and that’s why this series is so good. The main plot line, so to say, would be “a story of twisted love” and if you decide to watch or read this series, then you’ll find out that “love” can take on a lot of meanings.
As with every series though, the best way to know if you might come to enjoy it would be to try it by yourself: I’d say… if you don’t find it interesting, not even a little bit, after the first four episodes then maybe it’s not for you, knowing that it only gets better the more you watch.
I’m positive that the first episode will leave you confused and the second maybe even more so. By the third you may appreciate some characters and aspects of this series though and the real test of whether or not you find the show interesting would be episode 4.
That’s my initial experience with it. It’s hard to provide a simple and spoiler-free summary though so I’ll just say that I came upon Durarara as I was searching for a series simply about a town and its inhabitants’ daily routine, which is exactly what Durarara is about… until you met the main villain (no worries though, he shows up fast).
So basically if you’re looking for a cool show, with mysterious elements and a cast full of complex characters & incredible dynamics, then Narita-sensei is your man (all of his novel series are like that).
I hope it helps a little? Sorry if not. :3 Have a nice day Anon!
To answer you, personally no I don’t feel that this is rushed at all. In fact I’d say the pace is rather slow (I mean the twin was introduced in the 26th volume) and I had expected our!Ciel to be framed for a while now.
As for what’s the point, it’s a chess game and UT & real!Ciel are the ones who initiated it from the moment they revealed themselves to Ciel. I agree they’re not the simplest characters to understand though, but I theorized about what they could be after here and here respectively! 🙂
Overall, I think the most important to keep in mind about this arc and the latest developments is that our!Ciel is supposed to be confronting all that he never did until now (in order to gain character development), which is something mainly illustrated by the return of his undead brother.
Rewinding the story
back
a little, try to remember why Ciel took on his brother’s identity in the first place and maybe it will make more sense. From the moment his bro died, our!Ciel became Vincent’s successor and the next Earl Phantomhive, so he had no real need to take his brother’s identity.
The reason he did it anyway is because…
he felt extremely guilty about not being the twin who died. It’s a condition called survivor’s guilt, because of the trauma induced by the horrible experience he lived through.
As such, he hates himself for having survived, even more after Seb made him believe that he had willingly sacrificed his brother’s soul into summoning him (which isn’t true, he never wanted any of this, it was an accident)…
and it’s all of this that led to his decision to take on his brother’s identity: because he wanted to make it as if real!Ciel was the one who had survived, both for himself and for what was left of his family (because
he saw himself as inferior to his twin brother and guilty, so he didn’t want to disappoint them).
And this, this mentality right here -that he is guilty and that Seb eating his soul will be his punishment for not having died instead of his brother- is what I believe needs to change for our!Ciel.
Hence the current arc and this face-off between brothers because, if there is any time when Ciel can reflect about his brother’s death from 4 years ago, especially when Lizzie and Soma (who are the closest to him) are also involved, it’s now with the current arc.
Basically, what I’d personally love to get from this arc is for our!Ciel to finally realize that people are happy he’s the one who came back (Lizzie, Ed), that they are happy to have met him during these 4 years (Soma, Sieglinde) and that’s he’s certainly not worthless compared to his brother.
Because, if our!Ciel gets this kind of positive development about himself, then later he may end up starting to question whether or not the terms of the contract are still something he agrees to.
And personally I’d love to see this type of conflict eventually happening between Seb and Ciel, because it’s just way more interesting narratively speaking than their highly functioning duo that exists ever since vol1, especially if Seb is truly supposed to be Kuroshitsuji’s main character (because main characters need to be challenged and to develop, be it in a good or bad way).
There you go Anon! I hope this makes sense? Honestly ever since this…
I’ve been waiting for a build up to an eventual conflict about the contract between Seb and Ciel. If it happens it will be way later though, if just because Ciel needs to get a better view of himself first if he’s to ever reflect back on the covenant he made with his butler.
That’s why Ciel having to confront what he decided 4 years ago and most of his behavior towards people who care about him is important right now. For me that’s mostly what the current arc is all about, with possibly some answers about the Phantomhive family and UT’s personal issues with them.
Sorry for rambling, as with everything it’s just my take on the subject but I hope this wasn’t too hard to understand. Thank you again for the kind words and have a lovely day ahead Anon! :3
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