So Furuta and Rize back again means Furuta is going to be eaten by Rize soon?

Hello Anon! And yes, possibly, that’s what I’m thinking at least. 🙂

She’s not the only one, but @hamliet recently wrote a good meta about Furuta still ultimately wanting to die and I do still think that he’ll want it done by Rize’s hand, especially if that can help her get herself out of being used by everyone.

I’m currently not sure what Furuta’s plan is, why he’s still with V, what he did or intends to do to Rize (because these are all points that are likely to be answered in the next chapter), but from the way he referred to her lately, I’d say that Rize is bound to grant him that old wish of his…

because she’s “an ally of his”.

Furuta had a terrible life so, while this doesn’t excuse his actions, the fact he’s conscious that he’s a tragic character and that he’s been actively making the plot move forward might allow him to finally die the way he wanted it to happen long ago.

That’s my take on it at least and, for all I know, it could change next week with the chapter about “Furuta and Rize”. :))

I hope it helps for now though, even if it’s to take with a grain of salt, as always. Have a nice day Anon!

Hello! Ahhh, from what I saw, you weren’t the only one Anon. 😉 However…

just like for Kaneki, it’s likely to just be a parallel of situation and not of characterization.

Of course, seeing ch128, it’s possible for Rize to be forced to become some kind of antagonist to the CCG and Kaneki’s side, however, it doesn’t mean that her character will follow the same development as Griffith/Femto.
Rize had similar shitty years of being tortured just like it happened to Griffith, I’ll give you that, but I don’t think Dragon!Rize is going to become an equivalent to Femto.

In the first place, while Femto might be one of the executioners of the Idea of Evil, he’s still “free” in the sense that he’s bound by the law of causality to still go for his dream no matter what (that’s why he was chosen from the beginning), so he was given a corporeal body and an army of Apostles and he just does things his way, since his way is benefitting the Idea of Evil anyway.

Rize though, the poor girl, as far as we know she always only was a tool to one antagonist or another, so as you can see it cannot exactly lead to similar developments.

I don’t doubt that Ishida-sensei reads Berserk, it’s an absolutely amazing series for a reason, but let’s not say he’s not creative enough to develop his own plot twists without basing them all on Berserk and what happened during the Eclipse.

I hope it answers your question! Have a nice day Anon. 🙂

UT was checking whether Sebastian was good enough to protect our Ciel? But what kind of danger can he be threatened, if UT needs a demon to protect him?

Hello Anon! Yes, in my opinion, that’s clearly what UT was doing…

and it’s not exactly that UT needs something as powerful as a demon to protect our!Ciel, at least I don’t think so, because he did consider getting rid of him in the Campania arc..

but rather that he might as well use Seb to protect Ciel from another enemy that might succeed in getting to Ciel even earlier than Seb.

Don’t get me wrong, Seb is a real threat to Ciel in UT’s eyes too, but not as long as Ciel doesn’t get his revenge or abandon the contract mid-way.
That’s why UT is currently more wary of another threat and would rather use the contract between Seb and Ciel as his insurance that Seb will protect Ciel for now, while he’s possibly looking for a way to take this other enemy down. 🙂

For more details, please take a look at these posts:

About Seb not being UT’s main enemy, by @hitsugikuro
UT is playing chess against the Queen by @hitsugikuro
UT trying to thwart the Queen’s plans: [part 1][part 2]

I hope it helps :3 Have a nice day, Anon!

There is one thing odd about the Queen Victoria in Kuro. Where are her numerous children? Is it possible Victoria and Albert never got the chance to have children because Albert died young, maybe 50 years ago? Maybe what happened 50 years ago involved Albert, as well as John Brown, who somehow plays puppet!Albert perfectly. I think there is a much deeper connection.

Hi Anon! You know what, I wondered the same thing about Victoria’s children when ch108 was released because we’ve yet to meet or hear about any.

Not that it means that Sensei changed history in Kuroverse, but unless they’re going to be plot relevant, I guess it’s probably too much trouble to introduce them (especially since they should all be adults in the timeline) and that’s understandable. :))

Edit: Anon, look here, @acandletoguide added very interesting thoughts about who, out of all her children, might show up/be mentioned considering the plot so far. :33

About Albert though, no, I don’t necessarily think he died 50 years ago. It’s true we currently don’t have a lot of details about how he died and when in Kuroverse, which is why for now I’m thinking it was in 1861, just like his historical counterpart (although I might be wrong).

I do agree however that Albert is extremely relevant to Victoria’s character and even to Brown’s, because sometimes, on top of calming her down, it’s as if Brown was almost manipulating her using the puppet:

I mean, this scene in particular really creeps me out because look at the way she’s talking: She first sounds and acts like a little kid until she becomes some sort of very happy-go-lucky pacifier seeking to build an utopia (when it’s war we’re talking about here) and it’s just…odds.

So I’m not sure what to make of the bond between Victoria and Brown: on the one hand, all we ever saw of Brown was always about him supporting her…

but on the other, it could 100% be an act for all we know, since Victoria clearly acts weird sometimes and it’s unclear whether he’s just cheering her up or if he’s doing something to her when he uses that puppet.

Anyway, all that to say that I agree: there is a connection between some aspects of the plot and Albert. Could be just relevant for Victoria’s character and her dynamic to Brown but it could also be directly plot relevant in many different ways (the war subplot, Victoria wanting BDs…).

Thanks for passing by :3 I hope you’ll have a nice day!

Is kaneki’s body going to be okay?? :(

Hello Anon! And yep,

I’m sure he will be eventually. :3

For now I think he’s completely exhausted and the reason his body still hasn’t healed probably is because, as explained in this post, all that he ate was most likely used to fuel that giant kakuja, so hopefully if he rests and tries to eat a decent amount of Rc cells, he might be able to heal.

That being said, in case the aging problem of ch131 still hasn’t been solved by the amount of Rc cells he ingested during the Dragoneki arc, then I guess it’ll be Kimi’s redemption to try and figure something out to help him.

For now, he’s very probably exhausted Anon, but no worries he isn’t going to die [x][x] and I also doubt he’s going to stay that way:

not when we saw an arm full of eyes holding the ring in the previous chapter
or when it seems he could create clones
or when it seems the whole arc “gave birth” to (another?) Rize.

I hope it helps, have a nice day Anon! :3

Hi Anon! So, actually, according to this post, it rather seems that…

the guys we saw eating at the end are humans turned into ghouls and it’s definitely the result of Kaneki going huge kakuja.

Remember Kaneki when he first became a OEG? He craved meat, because “hunger” for a ghoul is horrible to deal with compared to humans, but still, the thought of eating humans must be disgusting to these new ghouls, which is possibly why one of them was throwing up as Furuta walked past them.

That’s how I see it for now. :3 I hope it helps! Have a nice day Anon. :))

Hi Anon! And I’m sorry, I really tried but I can’t really understand what you’re trying to say? ;_;

I do think Rize got a new body (whether there are now two Rize or just one though, that I don’t know) but I don’t think it means that Rize became or can become Kaneki (or the other way around)?

Sorry, I really don’t see what you mean. ://

Translation Ducky made: “Ciel could have survived.” BABY, NO, YOU SHOULDN’T BE OK WITH “it’d be fine if Ciel sacrificed me!” I’m not ok. My god. Though I’m a little peeved the flashbacks are continuing, I wholeheartedly agree that this deserved a chapter to itself. (But seriously Yana, we get it now.) We just need the contract, the ring and action of Seb killing the cultists, right? (Where u @ Elizabeth.) I feel like it’ll take a lot of curves to avoid OC’s name. The lack in the flashback

Hi Anon! No worries though, you’re free to have a different opinion about our!Ciel’s name, and it’s not because I personally think we won’t learn about his true identity in this arc (if at all) that I’m right or anything, as always. :3

I can totally understand people being annoyed with him not being “called” in the flashbacks (or in future chapters), but personally I’d rather have him only referred to as “Ciel” in the story, so I’m not particularly bothered by that, haha.

To address the rest of your asks:

what’s left of the flashback?

I think it’s likely that next month will be the last chapter because there shouldn’t be much left to cover + it will be the last chapter of volume 27, so in my opinion next chapter will cover until this moment:

In other words:

Ciel will be taking the ring from his brother’s belly
Seb will annihilate everyone else
Ciel will ask Seb to burn it all to the ground (his brother’s body included?)
“I name you after my dog”
Ciel will be going home to Tanaka and find out that the whole house burnt down for a reason yet explained.
Ciel will possibly meet Ann and get Vincent’s other ring back from her

Ending the flashback on our!Ciel facing his dead family would be very moving and symbolic, that’s why I think Sensei could stop it there. And if so, then April’s chapter will have us back in present time and might be a recap chapter (like ch121).

However, Sensei may also decide to continue with the flashback for a little while longer into vol28 and possibly take us until Ciel officially became “Earl Phantomhive”, which means that we could address the following moments…

Ciel finding out/being explained about the Watchdog duty (~~this is when I’m hoping Frances or Tanaka might explain stuff about the family but I’m probably dreaming since it’s not really the point of that flashback~~),

Ciel meeting Elizabeth (or more generally the Midfords) again,

Ciel meeting his father’s Evil Nobles (Dee, Klaus, UT, Pitt…) as the new Earl Phantomhive.

Overall I think it depends on if the whole point of the flashback is to show why our!Ciel took on his brother’s identity, or if it’s also to explain all of his initial motivations when he became “Earl Phantomhive” (if so we’ll be joining up with Seb’s record).

I guess we’ll have to see next month, no can do. :3

About Lizzie “instantly” switching side

I hope we agree there that, presented like that, it would be bad writing if such a thing were to happen xD without mentioning that it’d make Lizzie incredibly shallow as a character (something that the Campania arc debunked completely).

In the first place, as I explained before, I’m not exactly sure what to make of Lizzie’s role in this arc and because of the awkward pacing in Kuro, Sensei tends to have me on the fence with this kind of theories.

So, currently, my personal take is that Lizzie is hopefully not taking a side despite how confusing the situation must be for her, it’s just that…

real!Ciel possibly currently needs her more than our!Ciel does (or so she thinks).

That’s why, when this balance inverts, because our!Ciel will very possibly break down when confronting his brother, she will most likely decide to support him instead (as always, just my opinion though).

What Lizzie knows or doesn’t know isn’t clear at this point. We don’t even know for sure why she is so sad, but (and that’s the difference with Soma) Lizzie had her suspicions about Ciel hiding something before this arc rolled in, so my personal take is that her crying has more to do with…

the twin being involved in something extremely fishy than “omG I fEll in loVe wiTH the wrong CIel”.

Besides, wouldn’t you agree that, since our!Ciel’s issues are partially expressed through thinking he disappointed his family because “the best twin” died instead of him…

…Lizzie’s role isn’t to “switch back to his side”, but rather to reassure him that he shouldn’t have had to become his brother for her sake or anyone else’s in the first place ?

So the concept of Lizzie taking a side, although it’s one I considered for a long time during this arc, is really irking me nowadays and that’s why I hope Lizzie’s sadness isn’t about our!Ciel lying but rather about the whole arc itself.

Sorryyyyy for rambling! I hope it makes sense? :3 Please have a nice day Anon!

midnight-in-town:

I know I have 10+ answers to write now that the chapter is out, but I just wanted to say that this is the whole point of the current arc, the 2CT and Ciel facing his brother in my opinion, because it will mean finally confronting the survivor’s guilt and inferiority complex that have been holding Ciel back from developing much further.

Initially, it’s a decision that was taken to become the Ciel his brother wanted to be (& I don’t doubt that he really meant it to be that way), but over the years this issue just turned out to be about who the current “Ciel Phantomhive” really is.

We’ve been introduced to the idea a while ago that our!Ciel was “different” from the rest of his family (and thus from his brother)…

mostly in the sense that he’s more selfless and @her-majestys-watchdog did a great job in giving some examples here.

And the thing is, until now our!Ciel is probably the only one who never wanted to acknowledge that fact (because of survivor’s guilt and inferiority complex) despite everyone else around him having noticed a long time ago…

and that’s why this upcoming confrontation is significant because this mentality is something that needs to change.

Elizabeth didn’t fall in love with him because he was called “Ciel Phantomhive”, Soma didn’t become his friend because of that either, and let’s not mention Tanaka who kept his mouth shut probably because he thought Ciel had his reasons and he didn’t want to address a very painful and traumatizing topic.

Besides, I have no doubt that Ciel Phantomhive will remain his identity until the very end, but by now it needs to become a choice made because he wants to keep it and not because he thinks he still has to pretend doing all of this in his brother’s stead.

The twins’ confrontation is symbolically a chess game onto which Ciel walked in ch129…

but that duality within him (his inferiority complex mixed to survivor’s guilt pushing him to think he had to become his brother when, in fact, he acts and thinks differently from his brother most of the time because he’s his own person) has been existing for a long time…

and that’s why it finally needs to be addressed in the current arc.

^^^ This. I 200% agree with you Anon and I caught on that as well!!

Besides the fact that I really relate to characters suffering from inferiority complex for personal reasons (so I love our!Ciel so so so much and totally understand why even UT would catch on him being different), our!Ciel literally decided to “become his brother”, not in order to live on as strong as he thinks real!Ciel would have been, but because he thought he owed it to his brother and to their remaining family. ;_;

Of course his thoughts were influenced by the horrible life he led for one month and by Seb taunting him (because he certainly didn’t willingly give up on his brother, as ch136 confirmed), but still even in his trauma, we can still see signs that he’s not the worst human being Seb made him believe he was.

In fact, this decision was so not made to benefit himself initially that…

in my opinion, that’s why to this day he still sees the contract to Seb as a punishment he totally deserves.

An inferiority complex is a painful mentality to break from, especially when for our!Ciel its roots mainly originate from a trauma he hasn’t learnt yet to cope with and also when Seb generally makes sure he doesn’t start to see himself as a very outstanding human being.

That’s why I need as many people as possible

(Lizzie, Soma, Sieglinde, the servants…)

to make him understand that learning about his twin brother won’t change their bond with him. That he has a right to admit that he’s enjoying some aspects of this life he built for himself.

That the current “Ciel Phantomhive” became mostly about him and not his brother and that, not only is it okay that it turned out this way, but some people can now tell him that they’re happy he’s the one who came back.

Anyway, it’s a lot to wish for and it’s hard to believe that it will happen through just one confrontation, but I doubt our!Ciel will stagnate in this mindset after everything Sensei revealed in this flashback. Narratively speaking it just wouldn’t make much sense, or so I think. :3

Thanks for passing by Anon, let’s hope the next chapters won’t be too hard on our boy, although I already totally doubt that. ;_;

Have a nice day!

What do you think of @weston-hc’s animal symbolism post? Do you think that the whole animal thing was as big as they say?

Hello! Sorry for the slight delay I wanted to read the chapter in English before answering you. 🙂

First thing first though, if there is one thing I don’t really like to do, it’s to speak of someone else’s meta when I’m not privy to their whole thoughts behind the process of writing it, sorry Anon.

For anyone who’s interested, here is @weston-hcs‘ meta about the symbolism behind Seb’s many transformations. Personally I advise to read it because it’s very informative and well thought-out!

However Anon, all I have to say is that meta, especially on symbolism, can be really subjective and similar to a personal interpretation, so I don’t have to agree or not as long as it doesn’t contradict canon.

OP presented their arguments, it’s clear and logical, so for me it works as a possibility,

and when it comes to the conclusion, myself I’m considering both ideas (that demons’ true form can’t be seen by the human eye or that Seb just doesn’t have a true form because demons are more a concept than actual beings). Only Sensei knows if their post really was the intent behind what was shown or not though, so I’ll personally leave it at that. 🙂

Sorry again for the delay, especially since this is probably not helpful. Nonetheless, please have a nice day Anon!

I’m a little confused about the touka = phoenix thing (sorry I’m a dumbass)

Hi Anon and aww, please don’t depreciate yourself, it’s totally okay to ask!! :3

I’ll redirect you towards @mawjaw though, since it’s their post in the first place and they might want to expand more on my little summary.

The initial theory was just that it seems a lot of the story can be “predicted” using Uta’s many tattoos (whether it’s because Uta is a troll or that similar events happened 100 years ago, we don’t know yet) and @mawjaw just pointed out that we could see a phoenix amongst the skull king, double-headed snake, kitsune and cross.

Still according to them, it seems the phoenix is the dragon’s (the double-headed snake in Uta’s tattoo) counterpart in feng shui symbolism, which is why they were wondering if maybe Touka couldn’t be what this tattoo is hinting at, to which I added that I really enjoyed the idea because:

Touka is a ukaku and ukaku are more correlated to birds or butterflies than the other Rc types
Sensei described Kaneki and Touka as a set several times, Touka can be seen as a foil to Rize and, also as we were discussing, it seems that the double-headed snake is hinting to be representing Kaneki and Rize.

Overall, it’s just symbolism, nothing particularly tangible or about Touka rising from her own ashes like a real phoenix (although never say never with Sensei), and it’s only interesting if you think there is a possibility that Uta’s tattoos actually foreshadow the whole story!

To be honest though, seeing as Rize is actually the “Dragon” Furuta was talking about and that Hide is still fishy with what seems to be a link to the 24th ward…

…I’m taking this “Touka-as-a-phoenix-being-a-counterpart-to-the-double-headed-snake-representing-Kaneki-and-Rize” probably more seriously than I should. x)

Please don’t hesitate to ask @mawjaw for more details, I’m probably overlooking some stuff!!

Have a nice day Anon :))

OMG

mawjaw:

midnight-in-town:

midnight-in-town:

midnight-in-town:

Saiko has Kaneki’s kakuhou confirmed!!! [x]

the two kagune exploded when close to each other, just like it happened for Amon and Seidou back in ch114/ch115 and they were both grafted with Yoshimura’s kakuhou themselves.

Hi! No worries Anon, your English is perfect 😀

Actually it doesn’t mean much as it is, it’s just that it was a theory that many in the fandom

had

for a while…

and now it seems it’s confirmed that Saiko’s Qs surgery was done using Kaneki’s (or maybe Rize’s) kakuhou.

Otherwise, it also seems to imply that if two absolutely similar kagune (as in, kagune produced by copies of the same kakuhou grafted in different individuals, like Amon and Takizawa as another example) face off…

&

then it goes boom.

The how and why aren’t clear yet for me right now (I’m thinking maybe it’s some sort of strong cell attraction or repulsion between similar cells and, when they collide or that the repulsion force becomes too overwhelming for them, it liberates enough energy to create an explosion), but I don’t doubt that other fans may come up with something that makes more sense, before Sensei explains why it all means. 🙂

I hope it helps, have a nice day Anon!

Anon-chan, blood types were never confirmed to have anything to do with whether or not a kakuhou graft would be successful. :3

It’s also something people theorized about for years because Rize and Kaneki were both AB types, but for now, there is no correlation as far as we know, so it doesn’t matter whatever Saiko’s blood type is. 🙂

I hope it helps, have a nice day :))

Kanou said himself it doesn’t ;D