Hello there! So I know that Kaneki has « changed » multiple times but I’ve always wondered why. Why does the change is so…powerful? In the sense that his hair colour changes, his way of speaking changes, his attitude suddenly changes. Like normally, these are things that change gradually. Like with Urie-boy or even with Koori. But with Kaneki, it takes a single fight and BAM. Changed.

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The way Ishida portrays Kaneki’s change throughout the series is fascinating, and it is something that goes with the whole emphasis of metamorphosis that is being shown in the story both through the use of the centipede who crawls forward no matter how dire the situation, as well as with the butterfly that is born from a caterpillar and can only learn to fly after a transformation has been achieved.

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Regarding his hair colour change: First of, it is a great artistic choice to show that a change has occured in the first place. A Manga is, first of all, still a story shown through pictures and the best way to stylistically make it known that something is different from before is to go with the biggest contrast possible – so here, from black to white hair.

The black haired Kanekis always tend to be the ones who are intrinsically tied to human emotions, as well as black emotions – by that I mean that the dark haired versions of Kaneki always happen to be very emotionally driven, such as Kuroneki at the start of the series who is still very much human in his mind and totally tries to repel his ghoul side. Contrast this with Reaper, who dons black hair and basically has a black future in his sight – dying in style. Kaneki is hereby very emotionally driven, to the point that he self reflects constantly and basically talks down to himself.

The white haired versions of Kaneki on the other hand always tend to seek strength. We had the torture of Yamori which led to Kaneki’s hair turning white from stress, but narrative-wise it’s also to show us that Kaneki has just made a 180° turn. Gone is the friendly Kaneki that we knew, replaced by one who seeks strength instead. The One Eyed King meanwhile suffers from aging very quickly, which is one of the in-universe reasons for the hair of someone turning white. It is the same for Arima, whose rapid aging caused his hair to turn white like an old man. Narratively, though, it refers to Kaneki’s urge to seek strength in body and Arima’s constant battle with beeing nothing but a murdering machine for the CCG.

A neat middle ground of the two is Haise, who is portrayed by having salt-pepper hair, respectively. Which makes sense, considering that Haise is very much the most mature version of Kaneki, the one who can actually hold a parental role without burning out because of it. I believe Haise is what Kaneki COULD have been, but sadly Haise has always been a happy dream that Kaneki indulged in, knowing that he was playing house all along and had to wake up eventually.

Regarding why Kaneki’s personality makes a 180° turn: Kaneki is a character whose goal throughout the entirety of the series is a selfish wish to be loved by everyone. Because he got abused by his mother and lacked a father figure his parental figures in life have left him a socially inept person. Kaneki tries to erase what he perceives as flaws due to this childhood trauma, those flaws being that not everyone loves him. And that goal is insane, he won’t ever get to have everyone love him unconditionally.

Kaneki, however, does not realise that such a goal is unrealistic. Worse, the next father figure that he gets is Yoshimura, who abandoned his very own daughter. Said daughter then became a parental figure together with Arima in raising Kaneki as King, which could only fail because Arima and Eto have always lacked a sense of self throughout the entirety of the series. Eto does whatever she wants without taking responsibility for her actions, Arima lacks any sort of individuality due to being raised as a tool to be used. Those people could not, in any way, show Kaneki how to be a proper person, they were shells of people in their own right at best.

But Kaneki’s goal is to be loved by everyone!

So when calm, shy Kuroneki isn’t strong enough? Then he becomes ruthless Shironeki, because that might work! But it doesn’t, so he dreams up this reality of being a parental figure himself. And he’s good at it, because Kaneki wants everyone to love him, so of course he can be a great father role…as long as he finds use in it, at least. The moment he is tired of being Haise because Shirazu died and he failed at being a parent? He abandons the Quinx, becomes Reaper and wishes to die in style because surely THEN everyone will love him! But damn, there’s that voice of his dead (?) best friend in his head who reminds him that that is stupid, that living doesn’t have to be stylish! So Kaneki finds resolve once more, finds a reason to live in Touka and becomes King – which fails, as I’ve explained earlier. It fails so spectacularly that he destroys half of Tokyo, ends up with a body of genetic mystery and now thinks that since everyone is suddenly working together he can finally be strong enough to shoulder it all!

…which is where we are at, right now. We currently have a Kaneki who wrecked half a city and now decides that since most of the people who he cares about are bundled up in one place that he can shoulder it all and take responsibility for his actions. But he said that countless times before and his mindset hasn’t really changed. We are currently going into the last arc, but before Kaneki reaches enlightenment he will have to face Judgement and come to terms with all the things he has done.

Which means that he will, hopefully, have to face what he did to others directly – looking at Hide’s scars doesn’t equal understanding Hide’s trauma, just like how taking Tsukiyama as his shield for granted doesn’t equal understanding the loss that Shuu had to live through because of Kaneki. He will have to come to terms with the fact that he is one of the reasons why Mutsuki became so obsessed, that he abandoned people left and right.

And hopefully he will do so during Judgement! =)

What’s the katakana for « Vaske »?

kenkamishiro:

kenkamishiro:

@midnight-in-town

I just saw the post, thanks for tagging me! You’ve got some really great relevant ideas and I’m tempted to change it to to ‘Vasuki’ but I think I need to hear some more input from other people before I do so. It’s bugging me that it’s written like ヴァスケイ (pronounced ‘vasukei’) when ‘Vasuki’ could easily be written as ヴァスキ or ヴァスキー  (pronounced ‘vasuki’), which makes me wonder if it was intentionally written like that to suggest another meaning of ‘cleaner’.

kenkamishiro:

It’s ヴァスケイ.

Tbh I have no idea if ‘Vaske’ is the right word for it, so I’m willing to listen to other suggestions for what it could be.

@hattorikei

Japanese “Vasuki” article has
ばすけい in it. Could it be a chinese
pronunciation? 

I looked at the article, and I think you’re right. It does say that ばすけい is how Vasuki would be pronounced using the Chinese characters.

I’ll get the line changed to Vasuki asap then! Thanks for your help 😀

About “Vaske”

midnight-in-town:

midnight-in-town:

Guys I think the translated full name of the V organization, is actually supposed to be “Vasuki”.

(@kenkamishiro​ if you would be so kind as to provide us with the romaji, maybe it could help? :3)

 Copy-pasting an old explanation from ch144 about why Furuta chose the name “Dragon”:

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In Chapter 131, ‘Naagaraji’ ナァガラジ could be a reference to the Hindu mythology Nāgarāja “King of the nāga” (nāga meaning snakes) and also known in Japanese and Chinese mythology as one of the 8 great dragon kings. Among the Nāgarāja there is Vasuki, a snakegod in Indian mythology who was converted into a dragon king in Buddhism, then renamed “Washu-kichi”

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和修吉(washukitsu) is just the assigned kanji for how Vasuki is pronounced in Japanese. Washuu only uses the first two kanji as a family name, and then whoever the successors are adds the last kanji from Vasuki to their given name. (ex: Furuta Nimura -> Washuu Kichimura)

‘Dragon’ 竜 is a Japanese shinjitai simplified from 龍 which figuratively means “sovereignty”, “king”, “chief”, and “hero”. The kanji 龍 is also used in the word 龍王 ”Nāgaraja; snake king; dragon king", a notable example of dragon and snake legends from Buddhist and Hindu mythology.

As Ishida introduced ‘Dragon’ 竜 in Chapter 128, he later on then introduced The ‘Naagaraji’ ナァガラジ in Chapter 131, both correlated with each other and with the word “king”.

[x] [x]

Remember, V was first created to fight against the second OEG of the timeline, before Eto:

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So I really think “V” is actually meant to be “Vasuki”.

I hate everything: guys please read this post. It’s partially what I quoted above, but it has the full myth about nagas (OEGs), Vasuki and Garuda explained, which is basically the current Dragon situation between V, Furuta and Rize.
It even finally explains why Furuta “jokingly” called himself a bird in ch138.

Also…

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Now that we know about “Vasuki” being subtitled “victory”, I still am not sure what to make of Donato being the “king’s crown” exactly, except for this part with the almost similar clown masks…

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but I’d bet you anything that it has to do with the One Eyed Washuu since he’s also a part of the myth (seriously go read the explanation I linked to) because he was driven underground…

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Uta is still the most likely suspect btw (especially since he’s also associated with the cross pattern, like Donato, and a link between them makes sense since Donato is “Crown”, the “king’s crown”). 

We’re still missing on who the second OEG of the timeline is/was though (Noro? Itori?).

Spooky-chan is going to roast me again for the public conspiracy theory, but 

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Maybe that’s why Donato was called that?

Ahhhh, I really hope that Uta’s still non-meaningful tattoos aren’t supposed to represent his pals (without mentioning the one(s) he possibly has on his backotherwise I… don’t know what I’m going to do. ;_; 

About “Vaske”

Guys I think the translated full name of the V organization, is actually supposed to be “Vasuki”.

(@kenkamishiro​ if you would be so kind as to provide us with the romaji, maybe it could help? :3)

 Copy-pasting an old explanation from ch144 about why Furuta chose the name “Dragon”:

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In Chapter 131, ‘Naagaraji’ ナァガラジ could be a reference to the Hindu mythology Nāgarāja “King of the nāga” (nāga meaning snakes) and also known in Japanese and Chinese mythology as one of the 8 great dragon kings. Among the Nāgarāja there is Vasuki, a snakegod in Indian mythology who was converted into a dragon king in Buddhism, then renamed “Washu-kichi”

[…]

和修吉(washukitsu) is just the assigned kanji for how Vasuki is pronounced in Japanese. Washuu only uses the first two kanji as a family name, and then whoever the successors are adds the last kanji from Vasuki to their given name. (ex: Furuta Nimura -> Washuu Kichimura)

‘Dragon’ 竜 is a Japanese shinjitai simplified from 龍 which figuratively means “sovereignty”, “king”, “chief”, and “hero”. The kanji 龍 is also used in the word 龍王 ”Nāgaraja; snake king; dragon king", a notable example of dragon and snake legends from Buddhist and Hindu mythology.

As Ishida introduced ‘Dragon’ 竜 in Chapter 128, he later on then introduced The ‘Naagaraji’ ナァガラジ in Chapter 131, both correlated with each other and with the word “king”.

[x] [x]

Remember, V was first created to fight against the second OEG of the timeline, before Eto:

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So I really think “V” is actually meant to be “Vasuki”.

The death scythe can slice right through dimensions

I was looking through ch10 to answer someone and I stumbled upon this, which I had completely forgotten.
So actually, I’d love to know more about that in the plot since it was addressed only once????? Because I bet it could

maybe

answer some of our questions…

Is that why Shinigamis have this odd relation to time and belongings from our time era when the timeline covers the 19th century? Or why they can teleport?

Sensei, answers soon please~~!

If we look apart from possible retconning, do you think there’s a reason that Sebs’ flashback was SO different from Our!Ciel’s? :’) It’s… so stark hahahaha. Or is there reasoning to it? I can’t seem to figure that out by myself. :> Thanks for your time, and good luck with the week!

Hello Anon! Ahh, this is a very interesting question, about which I recalled debating with the @thedarkestcrow when ch137 was just being released one and a half month ago (and it’s possible even @shinigami-mistress made a post on the subject but I couldn’t find it again if that is the case). :))

To be honest, I think retconning/narrative convenience is the most likely answer (since a lot of important elements, like the twin, have an impact on the meeting between Seb and Ciel), even if I remember considering another explanation about cinematic records possibly

being

subjective, meaning that the same event could appear differently in two distinct cinematic records.  

To this day, I still can’t decide between narrative convenience or a mix of that and the possible subjectivity of one’s record, but

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the fact that UT got those yearning-for-the-future episodes from inside the human’s brain (or their record or wherever else they were extracted from) makes me think it’s possible that subjectivity could affect one’s record to an extent.

In fact, a long while ago (before we knew what Shinigamis were), I even remember wondering about if a record could change depending on the sanity of the person, as in, if maybe any type of psychological disorder could affect what the cinematic record would show because of the person’s subjectivity.
Of course I doubt it will ever be addressed in detail, but it’s just to say that it would make sense for subjectivity to at least slightly influence one’s record.

In any case, it’s hard to be sure because the only cinematic records we’ve really seen in details were Angelina’s and Seb’s and we got both of them as narrators during those moments…

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except that we also got a narrator anytime we had a flashback (Lizzie’s, Ciel’s, Kelvin’s), so this doesn’t really prove that cinematic records are affected by one’s subjectivity. :/

Finally, Seb’s record from his fight against Grell in ch10 showed the part about “taking the ring out”…

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…which was also missing from what we saw of his record in ch62/63, so that’s why I think that narrative convenience/retconning is definitely the biggest part of the answer to your question. :3

I hope this can be helpful somehow! Thank you for the nice words and I wish you a great week as well! ^3^

midnight-in-town:

tfw you realize in ch138 that, while telling Seb not to take on another contractor in case it gets in the way of his own contract, Ciel briefly thinks about the guy who brought the twins to the cult and about his own father Vincent, before saying I can’t trust anyone anymore.

Initially and before this chapter, @thedarkestcrow and I had previously debated and concluded that maybe our!Ciel couldn’t refer to his parents as anything but “[his] predecessors”…

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…because of survivor’s guilt leading him to think that “he let the best son died” and had no right to call them his parents as a result. 

However, with the latest chapter and this page in particular, maybe it’s actually that a part of him blames Vincent, the head and protective figure of the family, for not being able to prevent everything that happened… ;_; 
It’s either that or he realized that what happened to his family is linked to whatever his father’s “work” was. 

Either way, it’s just… really sad, especially when we know that Vincent expected to die a while before it happened, it’s just that he miscalculated when he thought that his sons wouldn’t get involved (even making Dee promise to watch after them). ://

One day, I hope Ciel gets to talk about his father with Tanaka, Frances, Diedrich, Klaus or maybe even UT, because there are definitely some issues. 

Hello Anon! Nope, he didn’t know any big detail…

And actually, I’m really curious as to how he found out and who explained it all to him before he officially became “Earl Phantomhive” in March 1886. Because:

  • Either Seb made some research
  • or Tanaka explained
  • or Frances explained
  • or someone else did (Klaus? Diedrich? UT? Ann?)

Maybe we’ll know with the current flashback, if it’s supposed to catch up with Seb’s record from ch62/63? I guess we’ll see. :3

I hope it answers your question Anon, have a nice day!